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Posted: 1/24/2015 11:49:15 AM EDT
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Agreed. The ammo is ridiculous. Sometimes they have used Glocks for a fair price ($375-$475 with a couple mags, and maybe some half dead Trijicons). I had a buddy who told me of a combo deal they had with a lower receiver and 10 mags for about $200. It was when the last gun scare happened and was trending down. I had the money at the time. Figured I could put the mags in the safe for an investment piece for whenever the next political attempt comes. But nevertheless, each time I go in there I have a positive attitude, but come out disappointed.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:21:27 PM EDT
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They went up around the most recent panic and haven't come back down to earth yet. I like the guys, seem like good folks.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 1:22:47 PM EDT
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There was supposed to be a new store going in on Deerfoot with an indoor range and everything, not sure what the completion date looks like now though.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 3:13:14 PM EDT
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I wanted to pull up the email that cdnn had sent me earlier in the day with those Korean AK mags for $8.89.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 6:41:56 PM EDT
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There was supposed to be a new store going in on Deerfoot with an indoor range and everything, not sure what the completion date looks like now though. Sheepdog Firearms...https://www.facebook.com/sheepdogfirearms Some friends of mine are involved. |
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Posted: 1/24/2015 9:23:16 PM EDT
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Sheepdog Firearms...https://www.facebook.com/sheepdogfirearms Some friends of mine are involved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There was supposed to be a new store going in on Deerfoot with an indoor range and everything, not sure what the completion date looks like now though. Sheepdog Firearms...https://www.facebook.com/sheepdogfirearms Some friends of mine are involved. Yep that's it thanks. Hope they make it happen. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 11:25:07 AM EDT
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I don't expect a brick and mortar store to compete with internet pricing. That $10 mag is still going to cost you $10 in shipping.
Also the person who buys that $25 mag it will be the only one they own. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:12:32 PM EDT
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I can see selling those $10 mags for $15 or even $18. Let's say I buy 5 mags at $10 online plus $10 shipping. That's $60. 5 mags at BPW @ $25 each is $125 plus tax. What about the 45acp tula that's $10 more than at walmart? 22lr at $55 for 325 rnds? $120 for a bucket of Remington golden bullets?
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Posted: 1/25/2015 2:20:21 PM EDT
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I can see selling those $10 mags for $15 or even $18. Let's say I buy 5 mags at $10 online plus $10 shipping. That's $60. 5 mags at BPW @ $25 each is $125 plus tax. What about the 45acp tula that's $10 more than at walmart? 22lr at $55 for 325 rnds? $120 for a bucket of Remington golden bullets? Folks generally don't buy a bunch of mags for a gun when they purchase one. They are not arfcommers. Most people who buy ammo at the gun store are buying the one box they will load the gun with they just bought and then sit for years. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 9:12:38 PM EDT
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Had a bad experience with them wasting my time over a Glock 19 during the panic. They will NEVER see my business again. Hoover Tactical is my go to place though I've bought nothing in a good while. I remember the retailers that tried to fuck over everyone during the panic and HTF was the ONLY one that didn't.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 12:15:03 AM EDT
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LOL ^^^^^ thats funny right there, they sold a ar15s for $4500 during the panic
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Posted: 1/26/2015 12:48:03 AM EDT
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LOL ^^^^^ thats funny right there, they sold a ar15s for $4500 during the panic Does the staff still act like they're doing customers a favor by "helping" them? I've never had a good experience with them, even in their old spot. They did have that Saiga 12 for $1500 that they boasted about during the panic. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 1:51:46 AM EDT
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LOL ^^^^^ thats funny right there, they sold a ar15s for $4500 during the panic Really, Tim from TS Arms? You got proof of that? Never happened. I been there almost the entire time Htf has been in existence. We would get ar's and ak47s in and put them all out on saturdays and let our customers know via Facebook, so that everybody would have a fair chance to get what they could at a fair price. We never went up on our prices because our distributors, which are the same distributors everybody else uses, never went up on their prices. would appreciate it if you would never set foot in my store again. For those that don't know me, my name is Kerry Bradley. I am the current G.M. at Hoover Tactical. I have been in charge there for almost 1.5 years. I have busted my butt trying to get rid of our rep as not being people friendly. I try to let everybody that comes in the door now, know that they are family, and my crew knows that people need to be treated that way. All the riff raff that use to be there is gone. I run a friendly store and try offer everyone a good deal. I am a business so I do have to make a profit to stay open. Surprisingly enough, here lately we have been able to beat a lot of online prices. Hopefully we can continue. I will get off my soapbox now and get back to watching tacticalnoob42 on YouTube.I have been A member here a long time and have made a bunch of friends here that I consider family. I very rarely mention the store on here because I don't want to take advantage of the kindness of the people here. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 8:27:42 AM EDT
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i have had my issues with HTF as well. as a former employee and customer.
that said i knew kerry a long time before he started there. he is a good guy and he has made HUGE improvements to HTF in the customer relations department. I have personally seen him go WAY above and beyond to accommodate a customer. While there will always be an occasional moron behind the counter you will get that at any shop, and i can first hand tell you if they screw a customer or piss them off with stupidity they won't be there long. He has made a positive change in HTF and frankly he has had a HUGE job trying to turn things around from the former management. As for prices i really never saw a huge increase in the prices during the panic. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 1:12:54 PM EDT
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My girlfriend bought me a Ruger 10/22 for Christmas and she purchased from BPW. She would not tell how much she paid for it but she did buy some ammo that I know she got screwed on.
Last time I was in the store there was a salesman that wouldnt leave me alone about trading my Benelli for another Benelli. I still like going there to window shop though. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i have had my issues with HTF as well. as a former employee and customer. that said i knew kerry a long time before he started there. he is a good guy and he has made HUGE improvements to HTF in the customer relations department. I have personally seen him go WAY above and beyond to accommodate a customer. While there will always be an occasional moron behind the counter you will get that at any shop, and i can first hand tell you if they screw a customer or piss them off with stupidity they won't be there long. He has made a positive change in HTF and frankly he has had a HUGE job trying to turn things around from the former management. As for prices i really never saw a huge increase in the prices during the panic. I'll have to second this above. ^^^ Kerry is good people, before, since, and now. And HTF is just that much the better for his efforts IMHO. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:42:12 PM EDT
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i will also add that kerry made a very big effort to keep his prices low during the panic. "if" a 4500.00 ar was sold there it was not an off the shelf rifle. to be honest, i don't believe it.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:06:39 PM EDT
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Put me down as a third one on Kerry being good people and I feel his leadership at HTF has been great.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 6:42:41 PM EDT
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Stories like this make me love Larry's in HSV even more!
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Posted: 1/26/2015 10:22:00 PM EDT
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Kerry is definitely good people, goes out of the way to make things right.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:01:29 PM EDT
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I don't expect a brick and mortar store to compete with internet pricing. BPW won't even honor their own internet prices. Back in November I went in to buy a rifle I saw listed on their website. The price wasn't marked in the store, so to verify I asked if the price was the same in store as it was online. The employee answered affirmative, and when they rang it up they tried to charge $40 more than the online price. I pointed out the discrepancy, and even showed them the online price on my phone. He insisted that the online price was what he was charging me...as if somehow I couldn't read the ticket and see the higher price he listed (before tax). I admit that I probably ate too many crayons as a kid, but I'm not that stupid. I wasn't impressed, and see no need in going back. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 10:05:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stories like this make me love Larry's in HSV even more! I don't get through Huntsville but 1 or 2 times a year these days. I never go through there without stopping at Larry's, and almost always take something home from there.  (Last time it was an old Remington Speedmaster.  )I look forward to seeing the new location if it is open when I am next up that way (end of March). |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:53:52 PM EDT
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Calm down folks.
I think (and may be wrong) that Tim was talking about BPW. I do know that their prices went up during the panic. I also do not blame them for it. It was a business decision, and during the worst of the panic, you could still get a rifle there (but you would pay for it!). It was a different business practice than was chosen by HTF. Such is life, and both stores have their own following. I have found good deals at both and high prices at both. Sounds like retail to me. 
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Posted: 1/28/2015 2:16:39 AM EDT
[#24]
+1 for Kerry and his service.
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Posted: 1/30/2015 9:30:25 AM EDT
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My first post. Seems a shame to waste it on htf.
I really don't like HTF. The staff is rude and condescending. When i walk in a store i don't expect them to kiss my ass but i do expect a courteous knowledgeable staff. I haven't found that at htf. I'm a frigging vet from the 101st and the last time i went to htf the clerk lied to my face when i asked him a question about a rifle. The only good thing about HTF being such pricks is it led me to find 2 great shops in Pelham. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:50:44 AM EDT
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My first post. Seems a shame to waste it on htf. I really don't like HTF. The staff is rude and condescending. When i walk in a store i don't expect them to kiss my ass but i do expect a courteous knowledgeable staff. I haven't found that at htf. I'm a frigging vet from the 101st and the last time i went to htf the clerk lied to my face when i asked him a question about a rifle. The only good thing about HTF being such pricks is it led me to find 2 great shops in Pelham. when was the last time you were in HTF? just curious. |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 4:42:14 PM EDT
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I really like the store and there is a marked difference in the "attitude" since the change. Speaking of HTF. The indoor range is top notch as well. |
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Posted: 1/31/2015 7:18:47 PM EDT
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Figure I'll chime in here since I found this thread after I went to both stores today. I'm new to AL as of 6 months ago so I've been checking out all the local stores somewhat near me in Cullman. I stopped in HTF today and it's a very nice building but their gun prices did not impress me and I really didn't have any interaction with staff. Later on I swung through TS Arms and I gotta say it was definitely a different feel. To me it seems like HTF caters to a certain clientele (not Arfcommers) and TS Arms caters to everyone. I certainly got the welcome feel from TSA and it just felt more like a family than a business. I'll be visiting both stores again in the future as time permits because it is a decent drive for me but I certainly would recommend a visit to TSA before HTF to anyone who asks me.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 5:13:09 PM EDT
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August
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Posted: 2/3/2015 2:21:29 AM EDT
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Folks generally don't buy a bunch of mags for a gun when they purchase one. They are not arfcommers. Most people who buy ammo at the gun store are buying the one box they will load the gun with they just bought and then sit for years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can see selling those $10 mags for $15 or even $18. Let's say I buy 5 mags at $10 online plus $10 shipping. That's $60. 5 mags at BPW @ $25 each is $125 plus tax. What about the 45acp tula that's $10 more than at walmart? 22lr at $55 for 325 rnds? $120 for a bucket of Remington golden bullets? Folks generally don't buy a bunch of mags for a gun when they purchase one. They are not arfcommers. Most people who buy ammo at the gun store are buying the one box they will load the gun with they just bought and then sit for years. That may be, but I would rather make money off of high turnover and a broader customer base than count on "that guy". I've bought several firearms from them, but hate having to negotiate to get a reasonable price. (Then have them look at you like you dropped a deuce on the counter.) Like some have said, their prices WERE really reasonable a year or so ago, but haven't dropped back to the range I would consider buying anything at, yet, which is odd. Especially since Southeast is right down the road.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 8:28:29 AM EDT
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i wouldn't buy a gun from SE if they were the lat shop in the country.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 8:45:29 AM EDT
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i wouldn't buy a gun from SE if they were the lat shop in the country. I guess their negative attitudes have not changed from the past? It has been years since I purchased anything from SE and that was only because they were several hundred cheaper than all the rest of the local competition. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 9:44:54 AM EDT
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i knew one of the owners sons pretty well. they live about 2 miles from.
mike fucked me on a suppressor deal several years ago and basically told me he didn't give 2 shits about his customers other than taking their money. wouldn't piss on that whole family if they were on fire. there is a reason his kids turned out the way they did. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 10:05:04 AM EDT
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That may be, but I would rather make money off of high turnover and a broader customer base than count on "that guy". I've bought several firearms from them, but hate having to negotiate to get a reasonable price. (Then have them look at you like you dropped a deuce on the counter.) Like some have said, their prices WERE really reasonable a year or so ago, but haven't dropped back to the range I would consider buying anything at, yet, which is odd. Especially since Southeast is right down the road. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can see selling those $10 mags for $15 or even $18. Let's say I buy 5 mags at $10 online plus $10 shipping. That's $60. 5 mags at BPW @ $25 each is $125 plus tax. What about the 45acp tula that's $10 more than at walmart? 22lr at $55 for 325 rnds? $120 for a bucket of Remington golden bullets? Folks generally don't buy a bunch of mags for a gun when they purchase one. They are not arfcommers. Most people who buy ammo at the gun store are buying the one box they will load the gun with they just bought and then sit for years. That may be, but I would rather make money off of high turnover and a broader customer base than count on "that guy". I've bought several firearms from them, but hate having to negotiate to get a reasonable price. (Then have them look at you like you dropped a deuce on the counter.) Like some have said, their prices WERE really reasonable a year or so ago, but haven't dropped back to the range I would consider buying anything at, yet, which is odd. Especially since Southeast is right down the road. I don't even stop to browse at SE. |
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Posted: 2/3/2015 11:33:01 AM EDT
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Maybe I don't go to Birmingham enough but I've not had a bad experience with HTF. Maybe I don't give off the right vibe or something but the handful of times I've shopped there I've been satisfied and that goes for the old location and the new. I do go to Larry's in H'ville more but is only because work has me in town there more often.
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Posted: 2/3/2015 10:08:41 PM EDT
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I've never had a problem with HTF(I was actually there today). Their range looks awesome but I have never shot there. I will one day though!
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Posted: 2/5/2015 12:41:25 PM EDT
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They used to have great deals on pistols. Then the panic hit and they must've not come down on anything. Last I was in there was well over a year ago and prices were still stupid. They had a Stag AR for $1500.
ETA Talking about BPW as I see the discussion has went to HTF. |
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Posted: 2/9/2015 9:59:30 PM EDT
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So I'm getting you guys don't care for SE?
I just noted their prices, my experience with them has been limited. |
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Posted: 2/9/2015 10:32:41 PM EDT
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So I'm getting you guys don't care for SE?
I just noted their prices, my experience with them has been limited. if obama had a gun shop..... |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 6:32:57 PM EDT
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FYI Larry's just opened up their new store on I565 (about 2 miles from I65) and its awesome. check it out if you are up this way
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Posted: 2/10/2015 7:54:21 PM EDT
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I don't even stop to browse at SE. Pretty much sums up my interaction with SE. My co-workers share similar experiences. |
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Posted: 2/10/2015 8:55:28 PM EDT
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So I'm getting you guys don't care for SE?
I just noted their prices, my experience with them has been limited. if obama had a gun shop..... 
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Posted: 2/10/2015 9:23:54 PM EDT
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FYI Larry's just opened up their new store on I565 (about 2 miles from I65) and its awesome. check it out if you are up this way I'll be up there a couple of times next month, looking forward to seeing the new place. 
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Posted: 2/11/2015 1:43:14 AM EDT
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So I'm getting you guys don't care for SE?
I just noted their prices, my experience with them has been limited. if obama had a gun shop..... Noted and filed.
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Posted: 2/25/2015 8:22:55 PM EDT
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Really, Tim from TS Arms? You got proof of that? Never happened. I been there almost the entire time Htf has been in existence. We would get ar's and ak47s in and put them all out on saturdays and let our customers know via Facebook, so that everybody would have a fair chance to get what they could at a fair price. We never went up on our prices because our distributors, which are the same distributors everybody else uses, never went up on their prices. would appreciate it if you would never set foot in my store again. For those that don't know me, my name is Kerry Bradley. I am the current G.M. at Hoover Tactical. I have been in charge there for almost 1.5 years. I have busted my butt trying to get rid of our rep as not being people friendly. I try to let everybody that comes in the door now, know that they are family, and my crew knows that people need to be treated that way. All the riff raff that use to be there is gone. I run a friendly store and try offer everyone a good deal. I am a business so I do have to make a profit to stay open. Surprisingly enough, here lately we have been able to beat a lot of online prices. Hopefully we can continue. I will get off my soapbox now and get back to watching tacticalnoob42 on YouTube.I have been A member here a long time and have made a bunch of friends here that I consider family. I very rarely mention the store on here because I don't want to take advantage of the kindness of the people here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL ^^^^^ thats funny right there, they sold a ar15s for $4500 during the panic Really, Tim from TS Arms? You got proof of that? Never happened. I been there almost the entire time Htf has been in existence. We would get ar's and ak47s in and put them all out on saturdays and let our customers know via Facebook, so that everybody would have a fair chance to get what they could at a fair price. We never went up on our prices because our distributors, which are the same distributors everybody else uses, never went up on their prices. would appreciate it if you would never set foot in my store again. For those that don't know me, my name is Kerry Bradley. I am the current G.M. at Hoover Tactical. I have been in charge there for almost 1.5 years. I have busted my butt trying to get rid of our rep as not being people friendly. I try to let everybody that comes in the door now, know that they are family, and my crew knows that people need to be treated that way. All the riff raff that use to be there is gone. I run a friendly store and try offer everyone a good deal. I am a business so I do have to make a profit to stay open. Surprisingly enough, here lately we have been able to beat a lot of online prices. Hopefully we can continue. I will get off my soapbox now and get back to watching tacticalnoob42 on YouTube.I have been A member here a long time and have made a bunch of friends here that I consider family. I very rarely mention the store on here because I don't want to take advantage of the kindness of the people here. You realize that you are defending ac action that happened before you arrived ? Just curious when you started ? |
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Posted: 2/25/2015 9:24:53 PM EDT
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Finally some flurries in McCalla/McAdory area...
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Posted: 2/26/2015 3:34:24 PM EDT
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There's a whole lot of construction equipment parked at the sheepdog building location on Deerfoot, hopefully they start building soon.
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Posted: 3/1/2015 12:54:38 AM EDT
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There's a whole lot of construction equipment parked at the sheepdog building location on Deerfoot, hopefully they start building soon. I think they'll still have a hard time competing with Johnny... Competition is good for us consumers though. |
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Posted: 3/1/2015 9:39:53 AM EDT
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As for online pricing vs retail pricing at BPW, you should order it on their website at the price you see or want. Either pay online or just choose "in store pickup". Then print the invoice or screen and bring it with you. You can also call the online guys and verify everything and they will let the retail guys know.
The retail guys have no idea what the online prices are. There has been some confusion in the past over pricing. BPW is building a new facility sometime this year. They have 20lbs of crap stuffed in a 5lb bag in the current location. |
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Posted: 3/19/2015 8:39:30 AM EDT
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Never been to BPW but I shop at HT and I like the place , very friendly and helpful to me. If you have not been there lately looks to be growing and adding a lot of new stuff. Only have about 40% of the stuff I ask for most of the time but they are getting better for those who build their own AR.
Bottom Line : I have nothing but good things to say about Hoover Tactical. |
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