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Posted: 4/10/2014 3:27:26 PM EDT
So at the suggestion of a couple members I stopped in Larry's, and lo and behold, I cannot purchase firearms.

I was under the impression that long guns were okay, what's the deal with that?
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 6:35:04 PM EDT
[#1]
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So at the suggestion of a couple members I stopped in Larry's, and lo and behold, I cannot purchase firearms.

I was under the impression that long guns were okay, what's the deal with that?
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I think its federal law that requires you to go through an FFL in your state.
Link Posted: 4/10/2014 10:56:54 PM EDT
[#2]
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So at the suggestion of a couple members I stopped in Larry's, and lo and behold, I cannot purchase firearms.

I was under the impression that long guns were okay, what's the deal with that?
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Nothing wrong with what you trying to do unless: - 1) your own state of residence only allows long gun purchase from only states bordering them. or 2) the FFL in non-bordering chooses NOT to do such non-resident, long-gun sale.  You need to check/google your LA state law on #1 first.

Otherwise, according to AL Title 13A, Chapter 11 specifically 13A-11-58 code, I don't see anything restricting you from buying long gun as a non-resident, from an FFL in AL.

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeofAlabama/1975/13A-11-58.htm

Section 13A-11-58 of AL statutes.

Sale of firearms or ammunition to residents of other states; purchase in other states.

(a) Any resident of Alabama authorized to sell and deliver rifles, shotguns, and ammunition may sell and deliver them to a resident of any state where the sale of the firearms and ammunition is legal. Any purchaser of the firearm or ammunition may take or send it out of the state or have it delivered to his or her place of residence.

[b]Any resident of Alabama who legally purchases rifles, shotguns, and ammunition in any state where the purchase is legal may take delivery of the weapons either in the state where they were purchased or in Alabama.

(Acts 1969, Ex. Sess., No. 175, p. 241; Code 1975, §13-6-130; Act 2007-196, §1.)
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Edited for clarity.
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 4:35:02 AM EDT
[#3]
In 2009, I was a resident of Missouri working in Montgomery and I bought an AK through a local gun shop. That was a transfer from Atlantic Firearms though, and not buying a firearm 'off the rack' at the gun shop.
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 5:24:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Looks like it's a Louisiana problem.  They say I can only buy from TX, AR, and MS...
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 8:42:58 AM EDT
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In 2009, I was a resident of Missouri working in Montgomery and I bought an AK through a local gun shop. That was a transfer from Atlantic Firearms though, and not buying a firearm 'off the rack' at the gun shop.
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Well, your situation is technically same issue as OP, even if it is transferred in from Atlantic, firearm still has to be logged into the AL transferring FFL's book, then log out to you after your NICS cleared (basically same as a non-resident buyer coming in from a non-bordering state and buy it off the rack per se, as those on-the-rack firearms originated from wherever the wholesaler is out of state).
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 8:46:33 AM EDT
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Looks like it's a Louisiana problem.  They say I can only buy from TX, AR, and MS...
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See other post, edited for clarity.
Link Posted: 4/11/2014 2:50:18 PM EDT
[#7]
Its Federal Law.

https://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons#out-of-state-firearm

Q: May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?
A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]

Note: It says "out of state source".  This includes out of state FFLs and out of state Face to Face.


[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]

§ 922. Unlawful acts
(a) It shall be unlawful—

(3) for any person, other than a licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer,
or licensed collector to transport into or receive
in the State where he resides (or if the
person is a corporation or other business entity,
the State where it maintains a place of
business) any firearm purchased or otherwise
obtained by such person outside that State,
except that this paragraph (A) shall not preclude
any person who lawfully acquires a firearm
by bequest or intestate succession in a
State other than his State of residence from
transporting the firearm into or receiving it in
that State, if it is lawful for such person to
purchase or possess such firearm in that State,
(B) shall not apply to the transportation or receipt
of a firearm obtained in conformity with
subsection (b)(3) of this section, and (C) shall
not apply to the transportation of any firearm
acquired in any State prior to the effective
date of this chapter;

(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer,
or licensed collector to sell or deliver—

(3) any firearm to any person who the licensee
knows or has reasonable cause to believe
does not reside in (or if the person is a
corporation or other business entity, does not
maintain a place of business in) the State in
which the licensee’s place of business is located,
except that this paragraph (A) shall not
apply to the sale or delivery of any rifle or
shotgun to a resident of a State other than a
State in which the licensee’s place of business
is located if the transferee meets in person
with the transferor to accomplish the transfer,
and the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply
with the legal conditions of sale in both
such States (and any licensed manufacturer,
importer or dealer shall be presumed, for purposes
of this subparagraph, in the absence of
evidence to the contrary, to have had actual
knowledge of the State laws and published ordinances
of both States), and (B) shall not
apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any
person for temporary use for lawful sporting
purposes;
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Link Posted: 4/11/2014 3:35:14 PM EDT
[#8]
@dbod, see the EXCEPT and shall not apply part under 922 (b), (3) (A):


(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer,
licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer,
or licensed collector to sell or deliver—

(3) any firearm to any person who the licensee
knows or has reasonable cause to believe
does not reside in (or if the person is a
corporation or other business entity, does not
maintain a place of business in) the State in
which the licensee’s place of business is located,
except that this paragraph (A)shall not
apply to the sale or delivery of any rifle or
shotgun to a resident of a State other than a
State in which the licensee’s place of business
is located if the transferee meets in person
with the transferor to accomplish the transfer,

and the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply
with the legal conditions of sale in both
such States
(and any licensed manufacturer,
importer or dealer shall be presumed, for purposes
of this subparagraph, in the absence of
evidence to the contrary, to have had actual
knowledge of the State laws and published ordinances
of both States),
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Basically saying = non-resident, longgun sale is restricted EXCEPT you meet locally at the FFL and the sale comply with conditions of BOTH states.

It is the OP's own state restricting him, not Federal, not AL.

Edited for clarity.
Link Posted: 4/13/2014 6:34:11 AM EDT
[#9]
It's a Louisiana thing. I lose a lot of sales because of it too.
Link Posted: 4/13/2014 12:06:34 PM EDT
[#10]
I guess it's a similar law that kept me from buying a Mini 14 in Louisiana about a year ago
Link Posted: 4/13/2014 4:17:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Never done so, but I was told by a dealer in MS, that I could buy a long gun there as a resident of AL.
Link Posted: 4/13/2014 6:17:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Not sure exactly how it works, but it seems like dealers will only sell long guns to neighboring states.  Handguns must be bought in your state of residence.

Alabama doesn't share a border with LA, Larry's will sell to AL, MS, TN, GA, and FL.

LA will sell to TX, MS, and AR.

Not sure what other states do, but this is what I found after trying to buy from Larry's.
Link Posted: 4/13/2014 6:26:02 PM EDT
[#13]
@ OP,
BOTH state must allows.  An AL resident can go to TX, NC, etc and buy long gun from TX and NC FFLs, for example, and it will be legal since no restriction by that state and AL.

Larry is limiting longgun sale to border state only and that is THEIR CHOICE as an FFL, a rather ignorant one, but it is not ILLEGAL unless state-restricted by BOTH states.  

Edit - Their loss for one-size-fit-all, no sale-to-non-border-state resident , I would just buy elsewhere.
Link Posted: 4/14/2014 6:45:11 AM EDT
[#14]
That was kinda my thinking, I didn't think they needed to be concerned with what LA had to say.  As far as I'm concerned, if I'm not in LA, their laws don't apply.
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