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Posted: 12/5/2010 8:37:36 AM EST
Back many moons ago, I went to one, I think it was close to Piedmont. They were also having them in Decatur somewhere. Does anybody know if they are still having them and where I could find some info. I would like to go again
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look on subguns.com under shooting events
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Posted: 12/5/2010 12:21:04 PM EST
Thanks Darn it, looks like I just missed it
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The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.

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Posted: 12/6/2010 7:10:21 AM EST
When Swan Creek is open- I am out there every Sunday. It is like a Machine Gun shoot every weekend! Have some Post Sample MGs.

Full Size UZI- 9mm
HK G36C- 5.56mm
HK MP5-SD in 9mm
Select fire G19-9mm
Soon-
A few HK 416s in 5.56, 300 AAC BLACKOUT, and 22LR
MP5K-N in 9mm
MP7A1 in 4.6x30
UMP45

Plus a few more that I am working on getting in, namely a Beretta 93R.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 9:55:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 2:25:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.


Was just gonna ask about Precision Defense Systems as I heard an ad on the radio. Now I won't bother.
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Posted: 12/8/2010 7:09:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jfor:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.


Was just gonna ask about Precision Defense Systems as I heard an ad on the radio. Now I won't bother.

If you are interested in NFA toys try Silent Industries in Madison. Had nothing but good service from them.
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Posted: 12/8/2010 7:58:32 AM EST
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If you are interested in NFA toys try Silent Industries in Madison. Had nothing but good service from them.

FYI torozmaster is the owner of Silent Industries and he posted above that he is out there on most sunday afternoons. I'm usually busy and haven't been out there with him yet, but have bought a silencer from him and he is good to deal with. If you want to find out for sure if he will be out there on a sunday, give him a call the day before.

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Posted: 12/9/2010 3:12:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



I may have to come and see one Sunday Do they allow 50BMG there and what kind of ranges they have there?
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Posted: 12/9/2010 5:48:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By NUTFINN:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



I may have to come and see one Sunday Do they allow 50BMG there and what kind of ranges they have there?

Yes they allow 50BMG. Pretty much if it is legal to own they allow it. I don't remember the distances but I think they have a 25yd, 50yd and 100yd with covered benches and a 100yd uncovered with benches. Keep in mind that it is pretty much public and you will see some people out there, especially when it is busy. The range is currently closed until sometime in January.
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Posted: 12/9/2010 6:03:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NUTFINN:
I may have to come and see one Sunday Do they allow 50BMG there and what kind of ranges they have there?

Information on the Swan Creek Range:
They have 4 ranges side by side, going from right to left, they are 25 yards covered, 50 yards covered, 100 yards covered, 100 yards uncovered. Reversed L shape ranges, with berms betwen ranges about 15 feet high and the impact berm about 15-20 feet high.
Google Map Bird Eye's view of the range

Requirement to use the range: Ages between 16 and 65(or 60 something), require a Hunting License, Fishing License, Wildlife Heritage License, or Swan Creek Managment Permit. If you don't have one of the permits or licenses and they check, it will be a $150 or $200 fine, I forget which but I have been checked (one time of the 20 times I have gone out there) and I asked what the fine would be if I didn't have my License.
Weapon Rules: Any legally owned firearm, so MG, 50 BMG etc.. are all good to go.
Targets: Paper only, no cans, plastic bottles etc... The correct way is a paper target affixed to a cardboard backing, now last time I was out there the ranger/warden was being retarded and saying that the entire target had to be made of paper including the stand, but eventually a lot of people bitched at him how stupid that was. There was some special press event going on that day and they spent the week prior cleaning up the range and had 4-5 flat tires on their law mower, caused from debris of shot up wood plastic etc...

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Posted: 12/9/2010 2:44:58 PM EST
Thanks guys for the info, I will swing by first pretty Sunday afternoon after the duck season, I will be the one with a little accent Some of you must know me
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Posted: 1/8/2011 10:18:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.




250? Thats it? I got stiffed for over $2000, May have to take him to court if he doesnt pay up.
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Posted: 1/8/2011 10:50:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By CajunSlave06:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.




250? Thats it? I got stiffed for over $2000, May have to take him to court if he doesnt pay up.


Had a guy come in Friday- he just got a full refund from PDS including the Tax Stamp...... CASH!
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Originally Posted By torozmaster:
Originally Posted By CajunSlave06:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.


Yeah, my order and tax stamps are over 2 yrs old and he didnt legally transfer them when i picked 1 of 3 that were ready, that never worked. he never filled out form 4473, call ATF asked if it needed to be filled out, they told me yes. got all the paperwork saying it did. and he didnt want to hear anything about it. He said he is right, he has been doing it for 17 yrs or something.



250? Thats it? I got stiffed for over $2000, May have to take him to court if he doesnt pay up.


Had a guy come in Friday- he just got a full refund from PDS including the Tax Stamp...... CASH!



yeah, mine were for 3 NFA items over 2 yrs ago that i never received in working condition and he never filled out a 4473 for me, making it illegal. confirmed it with ATF, told tony and he wouldnt hear it. he insisted that he is right no matter what atf says. i still have 0 of 3 silencers in working condition.
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Posted: 1/20/2011 8:23:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By CajunSlave06:
Originally Posted By torozmaster:
Originally Posted By CajunSlave06:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Shermantor-AR15:
The one in Decatur, or at swan creek, is usually sometimes done by Tony Gooch's people aka Precision Defense Systems Inc usually likes to do a MG shoot once a year out there.

Normally it occurs the first saturday when the range re-opens after the waterfowl season.



fun shoot but steer clear of the company.

the gooch stiffed me for 250.00 worth of product and he has done the same to a few others. his son took over the company and offered to make it good, he fucked up the paperwork and i never got another word from him.


Yeah, my order and tax stamps are over 2 yrs old and he didnt legally transfer them when i picked 1 of 3 that were ready, that never worked. he never filled out form 4473, call ATF asked if it needed to be filled out, they told me yes. got all the paperwork saying it did. and he didnt want to hear anything about it. He said he is right, he has been doing it for 17 yrs or something.



250? Thats it? I got stiffed for over $2000, May have to take him to court if he doesnt pay up.


Had a guy come in Friday- he just got a full refund from PDS including the Tax Stamp...... CASH!



yeah, mine were for 3 NFA items over 2 yrs ago that i never received in working condition and he never filled out a 4473 for me, making it illegal. confirmed it with ATF, told tony and he wouldnt hear it. he insisted that he is right no matter what atf says. i still have 0 of 3 silencers in working condition.


i traded some stuff with him for a 22 can years ago. i delivered... he sent the paperwork incorrectly filled out. A year later it bounced and the atf finally returned the paperwork and check to me to be redone. After MANY un-returned phonecalls i finally just said screw it. I know there were several guys on one of the nfa forums with similar stories that were actually in the process of suing him. Never heard what came of it but i was asked to sign on to the suit if it happened.
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Mark your calendars! Sunday 6 February 2011- Swan Creek WMA. 3pm

Machine gun shooting!!!

We will be out there with some toys.

I will have the following guns there. Might convince some other guys to bring some stuff out too!

22LR:
Walther P22 Suppressed
Remington 597 Suppressed

9mm:
H&K MP5-SD
UZI- with SWR Trident9 suppressor
Glock 19- select fire and suppressor host
H&K USP9- suppressor host
Silencerco 9Osprey suppressor
SWR Trident9 suppressor

45 ACP:
Smith and Wesson M&P 45 with Silencerco 45Osprey

5.56:
H&K G36C with AAC M4-2000 suppressor
H&K 416D 10.4" upper

7.62:
Remington 700 AAC-SD with AAC Cyclone
H&K 416D with AAC 300BLK 9" upper with AAC 762-SD

***NO RELOADS*** Also the G36C is racist- it will not feed PMC ammo.

No Wolf either! Federal/Remington/ATK family/Winchester etc. are good to go!

For 9mm- anything 147 gr+ is subsonic. 45- anything 230 gr is subsonic.

Hope to see you there!
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Posted: 1/28/2011 2:06:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By torozmaster:
Mark your calendars! Sunday 6 February 2011- Swan Creek WMA. 3pm

Machine gun shooting!!!

We will be out there with some toys.

I will have the following guns there. Might convince some other guys to bring some stuff out too!

22LR:
Walther P22 Suppressed
Remington 597 Suppressed

9mm:
H&K MP5-SD
UZI- with SWR Trident9 suppressor
Glock 19- select fire and suppressor host
H&K USP9- suppressor host
Silencerco 9Osprey suppressor
SWR Trident9 suppressor

45 ACP:
Smith and Wesson M&P 45 with Silencerco 45Osprey

5.56:
H&K G36C with AAC M4-2000 suppressor
H&K 416D 10.4" upper

7.62:
Remington 700 AAC-SD with AAC Cyclone
H&K 416D with AAC 300BLK 9" upper with AAC 762-SD

***NO RELOADS*** Also the G36C is racist- it will not feed PMC ammo.

No Wolf either! Federal/Remington/ATK family/Winchester etc. are good to go!

For 9mm- anything 147 gr+ is subsonic. 45- anything 230 gr is subsonic.

Hope to see you there!




sweet i'll be there with a case of wolf and my gun show reloads!!!
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Did Swan Creek open back up this week?
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Opens 1 Feb 2011!!!
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Awesome Toroz, as I understand it you handle suppressors. I have been wanting to get into the NFA game starting with a .22. But I have never had an opportunity to hear the difference one would make compared to stock. Seems you are bringing quite a few suppressed items.

Might be able to do a little business once I hear them personally.

Thanks for offering this opportunity up on arfcom.
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Originally Posted By stonedv8:
Awesome Toroz, as I understand it you handle suppressors. I have been wanting to get into the NFA game starting with a .22. But I have never had an opportunity to hear the difference one would make compared to stock. Seems you are bringing quite a few suppressed items.

Might be able to do a little business once I hear them personally.

Thanks for offering this opportunity up on arfcom.


Got my Sparrow from him...... Awesome little toy!

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Originally Posted By stonedv8:
Awesome Toroz, as I understand it you handle suppressors. I have been wanting to get into the NFA game starting with a .22. But I have never had an opportunity to hear the difference one would make compared to stock. Seems you are bringing quite a few suppressed items.

Might be able to do a little business once I hear them personally.


I can't recommend torozmaster enough, you won't find a better guy to deal with or better pricing. You will be impressed with how quiet a suppressed 22 is, watch out though tax stamp collecting is addictive!



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Originally Posted By stonedv8:
Awesome Toroz, as I understand it you handle suppressors. I have been wanting to get into the NFA game starting with a .22. But I have never had an opportunity to hear the difference one would make compared to stock. Seems you are bringing quite a few suppressed items.

Might be able to do a little business once I hear them personally.

Thanks for offering this opportunity up on arfcom.


honestly any quality build is good on a 22. i read all the specs before i bought mine. when i shot them side by side my ear honestly cant tell the difference in any of them. rifle cans are definantly diffent matter but for 22 my tac65 with subsonic ammo is as good and any of them.

i'd look for features such as size, easy disassembly for cleaning and a good rep for customer service.

jmho

mike

ps.... my 22 can is the most fun i have ever gotten out of any gun accessory i have ever bought. even with the tax stamp it was the best money on guns i have ever spent.
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Originally Posted By Yankee_81:
Originally Posted By stonedv8:
Awesome Toroz, as I understand it you handle suppressors. I have been wanting to get into the NFA game starting with a .22. But I have never had an opportunity to hear the difference one would make compared to stock. Seems you are bringing quite a few suppressed items.

Might be able to do a little business once I hear them personally.


I can't recommend torozmaster enough, you won't find a better guy to deal with or better pricing. You will be impressed with how quiet a suppressed 22 is, watch out though tax stamp collecting is addictive!



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He speaks the truth!

I took my Sig Mosquito and Silencerco Sparrow to Larry's today. Since I had to wear ear pro I could not really appreciate the sound reduction but all I could hear was the gun's action and the bullet hitting the backstop............. I agree with TBS that the .22 suppressor is my favorite thing to shoot. Hours of enjoyment............
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