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Posted: 5/18/2016 8:50:35 PM EDT
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There are that many democrat voters in KY ? That's unnerving. I might not move there -- I could not abide moving to the "5th most gun friendly state" only to see myself become a criminal.
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Posted: 5/18/2016 11:21:20 PM EDT
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Remember the huge turn out in March for the caucus? Trump was the clear winner in that huge turn out... with less than 90,000 votes. It was a light turnout for today's primary. Clinton and Sanders each cleared over 210,000 ... each! Oh, Gay Gray from anti gun Lexington slaughtered machinegun shooting Rand Paul. Just looking at the numbers, it is not even close. Republican Senate Primary CURRENT NUMBERS: Precincts Reporting: 3671 of 3696 RAND PAUL: 168,334 85% JAMES GOULD: 16,586 8% STEPHEN SLAUGHTER: 13,737 7% Democrat Senate Primary CURRENT NUMBERS: Precincts Reporting: 3683 of 3696 JIM GRAY: 240,251 votes; 59% SELLUS WILDER: 52,575 votes; 13% RON LEACH: 38,887 votes; 10% TOM RECKTENWALD: 21,879 votes; 5% GRANT SHORT: 21,484 votes; 5% JEFF KENDER: 20,176 votes; 5% RORY HOULIHAN: 13,586 votes; 3% Comparing those numbers from a primary is meaningless. The Republican caucus suppressed the Rep. turn out for this "mini-election", there was no Rep. Presidential candidate to bring out the voters. Gray will really have his hands full going head to head with Paul in the general election this November. Gray could only get 59% of the Dem. vote. A lot of those Dem. voters will never vote for a homosexual and many of them will vote for Paul. There was less than a 20% turn out. With Trump and Hillary on the ballot, it won't be nearly that low this fall. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 11:27:36 PM EDT
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I sure hope Trump and Paul come through. Our nation realy is on the edge. obummer has been successful in fundamentally destroying the nation.
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Posted: 5/19/2016 12:06:55 AM EDT
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We had a little over 20% turnout at the precincts I worked.
A number of the sleazebag leftists who came in were bragging about how many registered republicans they convinced to stay home since this was the "Democratic Primary". Not likely a difficult task since that what it was billed as in pretty much every media outlet. Some of the folks who came in were truly sad and disgusting people. As far as I could tell, the (D) presidential candidate votes were split along the demographic lines one might expect. I guess the rolls for HS- and college-level Socialism 101 courses have been full. The #ObamaStash coffers didn't end up being as full as promised, so folks are seeking their free shit elsewhere. I can only hope that their ranks are as bitterly divided as they seem to be. I think either candidate will have a hard time coalescing a big group to support them. |
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Posted: 5/19/2016 3:17:37 AM EDT
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Well, I didn't hear about the primary until the day before, and that was from reading it here on this site. I told my friends and they weren't even aware on voting for republican primary. They thought it was all about the Dem ticket.
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Posted: 5/19/2016 10:29:41 AM EDT
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Well, I didn't hear about the primary until the day before, and that was from reading it here on this site. I told my friends and they weren't even aware on voting for republican primary. They thought it was all about the Dem ticket. Why is it necessary for "somebody" to tell people when an election will be held and what offices will be on the ballot? Election Day is always the same. The County Clerks have all the information. The Secretary of State's website has all of the information. Radio, TV and the internet are overloaded with election ads and information and you had to find out HERE AT ARFCOM! If it takes more than that, I'm not sure I want that person voting. If these people won't even bother to find out when the election is held, will they even know who the candidates are. The fact is most people are too lazy and too disinterested to be bothered. Liberals work to get their voters to the polls, we don't. Liberals organize and rally at election time, we don't. They make sure that their people know when and where to vote, we don't. They will take a vacation day to help their causes, we won't. They will vote for a candidate that will get them half of what they want, we won't. They win, we don't. Its that simple. |
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Posted: 5/19/2016 2:46:11 PM EDT
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Well, I didn't hear about the primary until the day before, and that was from reading it here on this site. I told my friends and they weren't even aware on voting for republican primary. They thought it was all about the Dem ticket. This is because that is how the media played into it. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 4:59:34 AM EDT
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I noticed the primary raw turnout numbers too and was concerned as well.
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Posted: 5/20/2016 6:10:54 PM EDT
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Why is it necessary for "somebody" to tell people when an election will be held and what offices will be on the ballot? Election Day is always the same. The County Clerks have all the information. The Secretary of State's website has all of the information. Radio, TV and the internet are overloaded with election ads and information and you had to find out HERE AT ARFCOM! If it takes more than that, I'm not sure I want that person voting. If these people won't even bother to find out when the election is held, will they even know who the candidates are. The fact is most people are too lazy and too disinterested to be bothered. Liberals work to get their voters to the polls, we don't. Liberals organize and rally at election time, we don't. They make sure that their people know when and where to vote, we don't. They will take a vacation day to help their causes, we won't. They will vote for a candidate that will get them half of what they want, we won't. They win, we don't. Its that simple. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, I didn't hear about the primary until the day before, and that was from reading it here on this site. I told my friends and they weren't even aware on voting for republican primary. They thought it was all about the Dem ticket. Why is it necessary for "somebody" to tell people when an election will be held and what offices will be on the ballot? Election Day is always the same. The County Clerks have all the information. The Secretary of State's website has all of the information. Radio, TV and the internet are overloaded with election ads and information and you had to find out HERE AT ARFCOM! If it takes more than that, I'm not sure I want that person voting. If these people won't even bother to find out when the election is held, will they even know who the candidates are. The fact is most people are too lazy and too disinterested to be bothered. Liberals work to get their voters to the polls, we don't. Liberals organize and rally at election time, we don't. They make sure that their people know when and where to vote, we don't. They will take a vacation day to help their causes, we won't. They will vote for a candidate that will get them half of what they want, we won't. They win, we don't. Its that simple. Maybe I don't read the news or at least local news anyways. You're assuming. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 8:04:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I noticed the primary raw turnout numbers too and was concerned as well. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 9:14:42 PM EDT
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don't forget that a large part of KY votes Democrat in the local elections, and many local races are pretty much determined during the Democrat primaries as many local races don't even have a republican running. My friend it as conservative as they come, but is a registered Democrat because he is an elected constable in his home county. He says that he would never get elected as a republican and he runs unopposed each election. But he will also tell you that those same registered Democrats largely vote Republican in the national elections. It's strange, but it is what it is. He tells me it goes back the great depression and the way the Hoover Administration handled things and how it effected the typical Kentuckians at the time. Many people just go along with the party of their parents, so on and on it's gone since then. Very conservative state but dems rule the local politics.
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Posted: 5/20/2016 10:44:34 PM EDT
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Those raw numbers mean nothing because the democrats had a presidential primary and the republicans did not.
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Posted: 5/28/2016 10:18:27 PM EDT
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Don't know if it's still true or not but Jackson Co used to be the most Republican county in Ky. That is where all my "people" are from and my Grandfather used to be a state rep.
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Posted: 6/4/2016 10:22:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are that many democrat voters in KY ? That's unnerving. I might not move there -- I could not abide moving to the "5th most gun friendly state" only to see myself become a criminal. Their aren't that many democrats in KY, they are are "southern Democrats" most of which lean further right than northern Republicans. The primaries are closed, so the Dems have to vote for Dems but that doesn't mean they will vote that way in the general election. In a lot of areas the local government is still controlled by southern Democrats. Meaning if you want a job with any level of the government it will help you to be a registered Democrat. That is slowly changing. Plus the caucus was a joke and offered very limited polling places compared to a primary. The primary was a joke because it was the second time we have to vote this year and there was no presidential candidates to vote for. Rand Paul had it in the bag so there were really no reason to go to the polls. |
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Posted: 6/10/2016 12:29:19 PM EDT
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Not all party affiliated people vote their party. By thus logic you have, we wouldn't have a GOP governor now. General is what matter's most.
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Posted: 8/5/2016 11:47:53 PM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:44:29 AM EDT
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Here is a link to the first poll of Ky. voters that I have seen that seems to have some credibility. Interesting results in the Paul/Gray race. Really interesting results from last question on page 2 and first question on page 3. The sample is small, only 500 people, so the margin of error is +/- 4%.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8AUy6-gVq5MQW5KSVZ0dU5kalE/view |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 5:43:44 AM EDT
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Here is a link to the first poll of Ky. voters that I have seen that seems to have some credibility. Interesting results in the Paul/Gray race. Really interesting results from last question on page 2 and first question on page 3. The sample is small, only 500 people, so the margin of error is +/- 4%. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8AUy6-gVq5MQW5KSVZ0dU5kalE/view Those results seems encouraging. Seems like a lot of DINOs here (Democrats in name only). |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 5:03:57 PM EDT
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Those results seems encouraging. Seems like a lot of DINOs here (Democrats in name only). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here is a link to the first poll of Ky. voters that I have seen that seems to have some credibility. Interesting results in the Paul/Gray race. Really interesting results from last question on page 2 and first question on page 3. The sample is small, only 500 people, so the margin of error is +/- 4%. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8AUy6-gVq5MQW5KSVZ0dU5kalE/view Those results seems encouraging. Seems like a lot of DINOs here (Democrats in name only). Yes, and I am one of them, but I prefer the much older term, dixiecrat. |
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Posted: 8/7/2016 5:31:01 PM EDT
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There are that many democrat voters in KY ? That's unnerving. I might not move there -- I could not abide moving to the "5th most gun friendly state" only to see myself become a criminal. There isn't. Unless you live in specific sections of Louisville or Lexington its predominately conservative (I hesitate to say "republican"). You also have to remember that this year was the *FIRST* year things changes from a presidential primary to a presidential "Caucus" which happened earlier than the usual primaries. So for the presidential primaries we had hour long lines of people waiting to vote, and lines stretching out the doors. I didn't even make it to the "primaries" because I was ill, but I wasn't really worried. Rand is well liked and the incumbent, so he didn't really have any real competition in the primaries. To put it in perspective, I didn't even know who the dem candidate was until I read this thread. I doubt he will even be a blip on the radar come November. |
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Posted: 8/7/2016 6:32:11 PM EDT
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There isn't. Unless you live in specific sections of Louisville or Lexington its predominately conservative (I hesitate to say "republican"). You also have to remember that this year was the *FIRST* year things changes from a presidential primary to a presidential "Caucus" which happened earlier than the usual primaries. So for the presidential primaries we had hour long lines of people waiting to vote, and lines stretching out the doors. I didn't even make it to the "primaries" because I was ill, but I wasn't really worried. Rand is well liked and the incumbent, so he didn't really have any real competition in the primaries. To put it in perspective, I didn't even know who the dem candidate was until I read this thread. I doubt he will even be a blip on the radar come November. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are that many democrat voters in KY ? That's unnerving. I might not move there -- I could not abide moving to the "5th most gun friendly state" only to see myself become a criminal. There isn't. Unless you live in specific sections of Louisville or Lexington its predominately conservative (I hesitate to say "republican"). You also have to remember that this year was the *FIRST* year things changes from a presidential primary to a presidential "Caucus" which happened earlier than the usual primaries. So for the presidential primaries we had hour long lines of people waiting to vote, and lines stretching out the doors. I didn't even make it to the "primaries" because I was ill, but I wasn't really worried. Rand is well liked and the incumbent, so he didn't really have any real competition in the primaries. To put it in perspective, I didn't even know who the dem candidate was until I read this thread. I doubt he will even be a blip on the radar come November. He'll be more than a blip. He is openly gay. It is trendy to jump on the gay band wagon in metro areas. Supposedly, he too is a likeable guy. Still, he is what he is... anti gun. Paul? He'll shoot anything and everything. We've all seen him do it, more than once. |
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Posted: 8/7/2016 9:47:33 PM EDT
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He'll be more than a blip. He is openly gay. It is trendy to jump on the gay band wagon in metro areas. Supposedly, he too is a likeable guy. Still, he is what he is... anti gun. Paul? He'll shoot anything and everything. We've all seen him do it, more than once. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are that many democrat voters in KY ? That's unnerving. I might not move there -- I could not abide moving to the "5th most gun friendly state" only to see myself become a criminal. There isn't. Unless you live in specific sections of Louisville or Lexington its predominately conservative (I hesitate to say "republican"). You also have to remember that this year was the *FIRST* year things changes from a presidential primary to a presidential "Caucus" which happened earlier than the usual primaries. So for the presidential primaries we had hour long lines of people waiting to vote, and lines stretching out the doors. I didn't even make it to the "primaries" because I was ill, but I wasn't really worried. Rand is well liked and the incumbent, so he didn't really have any real competition in the primaries. To put it in perspective, I didn't even know who the dem candidate was until I read this thread. I doubt he will even be a blip on the radar come November. He'll be more than a blip. He is openly gay. It is trendy to jump on the gay band wagon in metro areas. Supposedly, he too is a likeable guy. Still, he is what he is... anti gun. Paul? He'll shoot anything and everything. We've all seen him do it, more than once. Paul is more than that. He's a dyed in the wool true believer. I've seen his senate debates on the floor and in the committee meetings via YouTube. If it's got anything to do with big government or overspending he questions it. Sometimes he's the only one that does. Only one that reads these bills too. He's not perfect, but we could use a lot more like him. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 1:26:53 PM EDT
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I will be amazed if Grey can carry anything not considered an urban area. I live in Lexington and am pretty familiar with what he did to win Mayor. I don't think he believes he has a snowball's chance in hell this time. He will come back again next time with more energy and a third time if need be. He will be sitting properly positioned and prepared if Rand retires to moves to another elected office.
It took him 3 tries to win mayor. He dropped about 2 million each time until he found himself in favorable conditions and won. As others have said, KY may be registered highly Dem but they used to be much more socially and fiscally conservative than the national party. Sadly I see that changing a little more each year in the wrong direction. Beshear and KY Connect are a good example of this. 20 years ago, KY Connect would have been a non-starter. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 8:00:32 PM EDT
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I will be amazed if Grey can carry anything not considered an urban area. I live in Lexington and am pretty familiar with what he did to win Mayor. I don't think he believes he has a snowball's chance in hell this time. He will come back again next time with more energy and a third time if need be. He will be sitting properly positioned and prepared if Rand retires to moves to another elected office. It took him 3 tries to win mayor. He dropped about 2 million each time until he found himself in favorable conditions and won. As others have said, KY may be registered highly Dem but they used to be much more socially and fiscally conservative than the national party. Sadly I see that changing a little more each year in the wrong direction. Beshear and KY Connect are a good example of this. 20 years ago, KY Connect would have been a non-starter. Ky. is always Jefferson+Fayette Cos. versus the rest of the the state. Just depends on how many votes the dems. can muster outside of those two places. I don't know what you mean about KYnect being a non-starter. Nobody ever got a say in the matter. Steve Beshear did it all on his own. There was never a vote taken. The General Assembly refused to allocate any state money for it. Don't know what else could have been done to stop it, except the Attorney General suing. Jack Conway, another dem., was never going to do that. Gray will be around a long time running for something. He will be running for Governor some day. |
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Posted: 8/9/2016 1:37:13 PM EDT
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snip... KY Connect would have been a non-starter. snip... I don't know what you mean about KYnect being a non-starter. ...snip I mean you would have had to look hard to find a Democrat who would have done what Beshear did. |
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Posted: 8/9/2016 3:37:19 PM EDT
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I mean you would have had to look hard to find a Democrat who would have done what Beshear did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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snip... KY Connect would have been a non-starter. snip... I don't know what you mean about KYnect being a non-starter. ...snip I mean you would have had to look hard to find a Democrat who would have done what Beshear did. Not really, let's see, there is Jack Conway, Andy Beshear, Greg Stumbo, Sannie Overly, Greg Fischer, Jim Gray, Rocky Adkins, Johnny Bell, Darryl Owens, Gearld Neal, Reggie Thomas, Joni Jenkins, Mary Lou Marzian...............The list is pretty long. Any of those people would be worse than Steve Beshear was, and I think he was pretty bad. None of those other people would have hesitated to do anything Beshear did. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 9:09:38 AM EDT
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Yes that is correct but I said "20 years ago, KY Connect would have been a non-starter." Those lovely individuals were not around and very few like them had any power in KY.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:22:21 AM EDT
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Yes that is correct but I said "20 years ago, KY Connect would have been a non-starter." Those lovely individuals were not around and very few like them had any power in KY. Sorry, I missed that part, and you are right. Twenty years ago we would not have had most of what the democrat party thinks is basic human necessity, like transgender bathrooms. These changes are the reason for the growth and increasing influence if the republican party in Ky. In those 20 years, the dems have moved radically to the left and and abandoned most Kentuckians, including me. |
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