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Posted: 8/14/2015 9:53:58 AM EDT
I'm proud to be from Kentucky, with roots going back several generations, but I've always been underwhelmed by our flag.
State seal on a blue field.  Meh and derivative of several other state flags.

On the other hand you've got states like...
South Carolina

Texas, not that they need anything else to feed their ego.

Arizona

All are simple but bold, distinctive and classy.  All leave no doubt as to what state they represent.





Anybody else feel the same?



 
 
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I like the state flag. Im disappointed I don't see it flying more often
Link Posted: 8/15/2015 2:41:33 AM EDT
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I'm with you op, I wish it had something distinctive about it. It's as plain as they come. Gets the job done I guess, flutters in the wind.
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That's kinda what I'm getting at.  I think a better flag would help in making that happen.
Link Posted: 8/15/2015 11:43:27 AM EDT
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Looks like two dudes on their way for some serious kissing.
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Im disappointed I don't see it flying more often

  That's kinda what I'm getting at.  I think a better flag would help in making that happen.



Looks like two dudes on their way for some serious kissing.


No doubt.

I like how the last two are boring flags with five point stars and some colors and somehow they're in a "better than" category.
We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 3:38:55 AM EDT
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Looks like two dudes on their way for some serious kissing.
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Looks like two dudes on their way for some serious kissing.



Just so there's no misunderstanding on my part, are you referring to the guys on the flag or arfarf and I?
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 3:43:05 AM EDT
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No doubt.

I like how the last two are boring flags with five point stars and some colors and somehow they're in a "better than" category.
We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky.
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Why no five point stars for a commonwealth?  Not trying to argue, just never heard that before.

Shouldn't it be 46 stars and the Commonwealths of Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts then?
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 3:58:31 AM EDT
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No doubt.

I like how the last two are boring flags with five point stars and some colors and somehow they're in a "better than" category.
We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky.  
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Looks like two dudes on their way for some serious kissing.


No doubt.

I like how the last two are boring flags with five point stars and some colors and somehow they're in a "better than" category.
We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky.  


What about Virginia, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts? No stars for them, either? They are commonwealths, too.  Our flag is just fine. No need for any pink or tangerine coloring. Colors and flags won't fix what's wrong with Ky. I can never remember if its a Texas, Cuban or Chile flag.The Arizona flag looks like it is for some newly independant African country.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 4:10:44 AM EDT
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Why no five point stars for a commonwealth?  Not trying to argue, just never heard that before.

Shouldn't it be 46 stars and the Commonwealths of Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts then?
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No doubt.

I like how the last two are boring flags with five point stars and some colors and somehow they're in a "better than" category.
We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky.



Why no five point stars for a commonwealth?  Not trying to argue, just never heard that before.

Shouldn't it be 46 stars and the Commonwealths of Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts then?


Why would we have a star? You're trying to claim our flag is a derivative or others when a five point star with colors involving red, blue, or white are completely derivative of the nation flag.

I can assure you more thought went into the state seal than "Lets put a star with two other colors as our flag and one of them being blue."
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Why would we have a star?



Not saying we have to, just threw those out there as more visually distinctive designs.

The way you phrased it "We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky." seemed to imply there was some long standing rule or tradition that entities identifying as Commonwealths did not use 5 point stars.  If there is/was I was unfamiliar with it and just trying to get a better understanding.



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You're trying to claim our flag is a derivative or others when a five point star with colors involving red, blue, or white are completely derivative of the nation flag.


It's entirely subjective but I don't find these:






to be all that visually similar to this:



though they all use red/white/blue, stripes, and stars.



On the other hand, this:




is pretty similar to all of these:



















I have to say I was not expecting this kind of response to this thread.  For no more than you see it I figured people's thoughts on the flag were either negative or at best indifferent.  Learn something everyday.
Link Posted: 8/16/2015 5:28:37 PM EDT
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Not saying we have to, just threw those out there as more visually distinctive designs.

The way you phrased it "We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky." seemed to imply there was some long standing rule or tradition that entities identifying as Commonwealths did not use 5 point stars.  If there is/was I was unfamiliar with it and just trying to get a better understanding.





It's entirely subjective but I don't find these:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5762/20380208540_70801e4e56_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/20603446496_57f033df5a_n.jpg


to be all that visually similar to this:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5695/20636359641_5593aaa79a_n.jpg

though they all use red/white/blue, stripes, and stars.



On the other hand, this:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5830/20380208710_8a2958313f_n.jpg


is pretty similar to all of these:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/686/20603446316_12858e9ecf_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/733/20008779463_4ba0ec999e_n.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5709/20636334321_5bd60f614e_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/606/20008778163_97315c2a78_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/602/20636334591_b6df78f60e_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/761/20603447956_af09bed187_n.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5753/20442993859_88e4fc9064_n.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5764/20441677618_553570073d_n.jpg



I have to say I was not expecting this kind of response to this thread.  For no more than you see it I figured people's thoughts on the flag were either negative or at best indifferent.  Learn something everyday.
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Why would we have a star?



Not saying we have to, just threw those out there as more visually distinctive designs.

The way you phrased it "We're a commonwealth so no five point stars for us. They need to modify the US flag to have 49 stars and the commonwealth of kentucky." seemed to imply there was some long standing rule or tradition that entities identifying as Commonwealths did not use 5 point stars.  If there is/was I was unfamiliar with it and just trying to get a better understanding.



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You're trying to claim our flag is a derivative or others when a five point star with colors involving red, blue, or white are completely derivative of the nation flag.


It's entirely subjective but I don't find these:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5762/20380208540_70801e4e56_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/20603446496_57f033df5a_n.jpg


to be all that visually similar to this:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5695/20636359641_5593aaa79a_n.jpg

though they all use red/white/blue, stripes, and stars.



On the other hand, this:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5830/20380208710_8a2958313f_n.jpg


is pretty similar to all of these:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/686/20603446316_12858e9ecf_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/733/20008779463_4ba0ec999e_n.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5709/20636334321_5bd60f614e_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/606/20008778163_97315c2a78_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/602/20636334591_b6df78f60e_n.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/761/20603447956_af09bed187_n.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5753/20442993859_88e4fc9064_n.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5764/20441677618_553570073d_n.jpg



I have to say I was not expecting this kind of response to this thread.  For no more than you see it I figured people's thoughts on the flag were either negative or at best indifferent.  Learn something everyday.


You expected to attack our flag without opposition or comment? Why do you think it has survived for almost 100 years? There is also a pledge of allegiance to the flag of Ky. It is seldom used, but does exist. I belong to a group that starts each meeting with both the Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag and the Ky. flag.
Link Posted: 8/17/2015 3:13:33 AM EDT
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You expected to attack our flag without opposition or comment? Why do you think it has survived for almost 100 years?
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You expected to attack our flag without opposition or comment? Why do you think it has survived for almost 100 years?



I wouldn't call what I said an attack.  I just stated an opinion that I don't find the flag's design very inspiring.

As for opposition and comment, when I said I was not expecting that kind of response I was referring to the passion shown by the flag's supporters.  Comment and discussion was exactly what I was going for, and that's the beautiful thing about discussion, seeing other viewpoints laid out there.  Though we disagree, if anything I'm impressed by the opposition, I didn't think anybody cared about the flag.



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There is also a pledge of allegiance to the flag of Ky. It is seldom used, but does exist. I belong to a group that starts each meeting with both the Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag and the Ky. flag.


Then hats off to you Sir, for your pride in your Commonwealth.


Though I may not be a fan of the design, I still wear it with pride because Ky is home.

Link Posted: 8/17/2015 3:25:01 PM EDT
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I always liken it to two politicians slipping money between each other.  Greasin the palm so to speak...but that's me...and my  funny take on it. If you don't like it  NFG.

I think the flag could be better, something that kids could draw, a seamstress could make, or whatever.  Those flags with the busy centers are the ones I don't like.
Link Posted: 8/18/2015 9:32:02 AM EDT
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Where do you all get your KY flags? I've got room on the pole under old glory for one.
Link Posted: 8/19/2015 10:30:43 AM EDT
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Vexillology has always been an interest of mine. So many states have uninspired post civil war, early 20th century flag designs which are nigh identical. A state crest/seal on a solid field (usually dark blue). Kentucky is no exception to this.

The Kentucky battle flag at which was carried by Kentucky militia men in during the war of 1812, who so bravely fought to the last man at the battle of River Raisin would be a much better choice. Remember the River Raisin was a battle cry of Kentuckians and Americans during the war of 1812.

Link Posted: 8/19/2015 10:43:49 AM EDT
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Here are some ugly redesigns:


http://unitedwebrand.us/



http://www.wired.com/2013/10/a-unified-redesign-for-all-50-state-flags/
Kentucky: "The intertwined arrows represent the joining of the frontiersman (red) and the statesman (blue) who are shaking hands on the existing state seal. That image (illustrating the motto, 'United We Stand, Divided We Fall') also appears on the flag. The angled lines suggest a 'K.'" --Ed Mitchell. Image: Ed Mitchell


http://unconsumptive1.rssing.com/chan-2527860/all_p3.html
Simply a field of Kentucky bluegrass, equal to the height of the sky above the fence, set in simple white shapes. About as elegant as you get and quite appropriate I think.


[URL=http://karnell.weebly.com/state-flags.html" target="_blank">http://karnell.weebly.com/state-flags.html
Kentucky is the third and final flag whose design I take from the talented Mr. Philip Tibbets.  Most Kentucky flag proposals, from Kentuckians as well as out-of-staters, use horses as primary symbols.  This flag places a white horse on a background of dark green suggesting Kentucky bluegrass.  I added a blue border to the original to make it look less like a copy of Tolkien's banner of Rohan; the blue comes from the state's current flag.
Link Posted: 8/19/2015 11:05:38 AM EDT
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I always liken it to two politicians slipping money between each other.  Greasin the palm so to speak...but that's me...and my  funny take on it. If you don't like it  NFG.

I think the flag could be better, something that kids could draw, a seamstress could make, or whatever.  Those flags with the busy centers are the ones I don't like.
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There are exceptions but I think these are good rules:

1. Keep it simple, so simple a child can draw it from memory.
2. Use meaningful symbolism.
3 .Use two to three basic colors.
4. No lettering or seals of any kind.
5. Be distinctive or be related.

Neat article none the less: http://ideas.ted.com/7-fantastic-flags-that-break-every-design-rule/
Link Posted: 8/19/2015 11:13:26 AM EDT
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This is where I got my American flag. All their flags are 100% made in the USA including most of the materials the flags are made from.

http://www.flagsusa.com/kentucky-state-flag-1/
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 10:15:37 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure the two men are doing a Masonic handshake
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 10:32:33 AM EDT
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If they change it one thing's for certain  OP -

They'll screw it up and we'll wish we had our old one back
Link Posted: 8/25/2015 2:20:36 PM EDT
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If they change it one thing's for certain  OP -

They'll screw it up and we'll wish we had our old one back
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And the millions of tax dollars they'd spend on the design and millions more on replacing the flags on all the state and city buildings!
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 9:55:18 AM EDT
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The Kentucky kicks ass group are full of liberal hipster douche's unfortunately
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 9:18:40 PM EDT
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