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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:38:41 PM EDT
CT 3 Gun Match  Where: Andover Sportsman’s Club, Route6 Andover, CT When: Sunday November 23, 2014 9:00 AM (Sign-In 8:30 AM ) What: 3 gun shooting match consisting of centerfire rifle, shotgun, defensive handgun of at least 9mm Para or .38 Special. There will be 2 Classes, one for iron sights/pump action shotgun, the other is open to optics/semi-auto shotguns. Some Particulars:
Safety will be stressed over speed! Improper handling of firearms, breaking the 180° while shooting, dropping a firearm and all other unsafe practices will result in immediate disqualification. For more information please visit andoversportsmansclub.com.  |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:58:38 PM EDT
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 6:08:14 PM EDT
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Vote Malloy out 
But in all seriousness.....this is a major problem with the new laws. Antis think that standard capacity mags are only used for violent crimes, and only criminals need them. To answer your question though, maybe someone would lend you a few for the match. OR bring 6 or more 10 round mags....you will end up being the best at mag changes In the 2 matches Ive done so far, I downloaded my mags just so I could practice changing mags.
Either way, sounds like a good time up there guys! I just did my first 3 gun last weekend, fun as hell! It'll be more fun with more experience 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 6:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vote Malloy out But in all seriousness.....this is a major problem with the new laws. Antis think that standard capacity mags are only used for violent crimes, and only criminals need them. To answer your question though, maybe someone would lend you a few for the match. OR bring 6 or more 10 round mags....you will end up being the best at mag changes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Vote Malloy out But in all seriousness.....this is a major problem with the new laws. Antis think that standard capacity mags are only used for violent crimes, and only criminals need them. To answer your question though, maybe someone would lend you a few for the match. OR bring 6 or more 10 round mags....you will end up being the best at mag changes +1 this.  |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 7:09:50 PM EDT
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 7:38:07 PM EDT
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Fairly sure IDPA has a 10 round limit.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:11:25 PM EDT
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Fairly sure IDPA has a 10 round limit. Well then... FIDPA
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:22:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well then... FIDPA Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fairly sure IDPA has a 10 round limit. Well then... FIDPA Hahaha, yup! |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:34:16 PM EDT
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http://andoversportsmansclub.com/news-events/three-gun-shoot
Equipment: Required Equipment: Hearing protection, eye protection, center-fire rifle, shotgun, defensive handgun, handgun holster with holster retention and two chamber flags. The handgun minimum caliber must be at least 9mm parabellum or .38 special. There is a strict, 30 round capacity limit for rifle magazines. No magazines of greater capacity will be allowed. Handgun magazines must be standard for the model of handgun used, no extended capacity magazines will be allowed. Shotguns can only be loaded with five rounds maximum until the first shot. Ammunition: Approximately 70 rounds of rifle ammunition, 4, 12 gauge slugs, approximately 16 rounds of 12 gauge birdshot and approximately 70 rounds of ammunition for your handgun. It is highly recommended to bring more than you will need. Recommended Equipment: Appropriate clothing for the season, food and drink. Course of Fire: This match will consist of shooting a rifle stage, shotgun stage and a handgun stage. This is a tactical match that will utilize and help you to develop skills with a modern sporting rifle, a repeating, 12 gauge shotgun and a defensive caliber handgun. There will be 2 classes: One class will consist of iron sighted weapons and a pump, 12 gauge shotgun. The other class will allow an optic on the rifle and/ or a semi-automatic 12 gauge shotgun. Scoring will be done on a hybrid IDPA/ NRA system wherein accuracy will be emphasized but above all, Safety will be stressed. Breaking the 180, dropping a firearm, or other unsafe actions will result in disqualification. There will be procedural penalties assessed for minor infractions. This match will be relatively beginner-friendly, but the experienced shooters will still face some challenges. Positional shooting will be part of the stages. Targets will be a mix of paper, steel and clay pigeons. Competitors not actively shooting or on deck, will be asked to help set up targets, replace clay pigeons and paste or staple targets to make the match run faster OK, so they have 2 divisions based on the action of your shotgun. Nov 23? 8:30 am. 
I use irons on everything and can keep up with optic guys at close range (they only shoot out to 100 yards), but I'm not sure how fast I can quad load my Winchester if my hands get too cold waiting for slowpokes.  
It sounds like fun. 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 9:32:32 PM EDT
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. What do you shoot? You can borrow mine. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 9:33:17 PM EDT
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3 Gun at ASC?
I never thought I'd see the day..... What's next? SMG match?
Good work whoever was involved in organizing! 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:03:01 PM EDT
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3 Gun at ASC?
I never thought I'd see the day..... What's next? SMG match?
Good work whoever was involved in organizing! When come back bring G19.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3 Gun at ASC? I never thought I'd see the day... What's next? SMG match? NFA day |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:26:14 PM EDT
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NFA day
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3 Gun at ASC?
I never thought I'd see the day... What's next? SMG match?
NFA day
Hope I'm a member by then so I can get in some practice
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:43:58 PM EDT
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Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. Most competitions are set up so that 8 is the maximum number of rounds that can to be fired from any position without needing to move. If you reload on the move, and don't run your gun dry, you won't waste any time reloading. I have seen folks run 30 round pistol mags dry and look surprised despite knowing the required round count well in advance. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:55:51 PM EDT
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Forgive me because I'm new at this... but 1 run through the course will require that much ammo?
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Posted: 11/4/2014 12:29:56 AM EDT
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I REALLY appreciate the offer Matt but I'm nowhere near ready. I'm saving up for an optic for my AR so I can get some range time behind it and then I can start to finish my chest rig. Pistol wise I'd probably run my SR9c unless I buy some full size pistol before fair weather next year, but that's unlikely.
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you shoot? You can borrow mine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. What do you shoot? You can borrow mine. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 1:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you reload on the move, and don't run your gun dry, you won't waste any time reloading. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. If you reload on the move, and don't run your gun dry, you won't waste any time reloading. +1, this.
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Posted: 11/17/2014 9:25:33 AM EDT
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Just a reminder this is next Sunday. Sign in is at 8:30 AM, shooting begins at 9:00 AM.
You will need mag capacity to carry 70 rifle rounds and 20 shotgun shells for one stage and around 70 pistol rounds for the second stage. |
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Posted: 11/17/2014 11:21:07 AM EDT
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Are spectators allowed ? Would like to see what I might be getting into
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Posted: 11/17/2014 11:28:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are spectators allowed ? Would like to see what I might be getting into Absolutely. The match is described as "relatively beginner-friendly, but the experienced shooters will still face some challenges". You should run the course, it will be fun. I know of one guy running it with a Springfield M1a and a Delta Elite, so it's not like everyone will be shooting race guns and such. |
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Posted: 11/17/2014 2:59:18 PM EDT
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Cohiba....this was my experience at my second type of match ever, and first time at a 3 gun match....and first time ever shooting a shotgun
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It is not critical to be perfect as you can see by my performance. Sure some guys are badass, and between them they are competing with each other. To me currently though, I dont care about my time or, in this case, even finishing the match Its about learning the ropes, and later Ill worry about how fast I can go.
Dont be nervous about it(I was the first time) but its pretty easy, just let the guys in charge know that your a beginner, so if you make mistakes there is some leniency. I made a few mistakes(where I pointed the muzzle when I was unloaded) because there is so much new stuff to think about. Mistakes that I would never make when I was at the range just shooting at targets. But I was quickly made aware of what I was doing, and no one was mad (and I was unloaded) but theyre just mistakes that you dont want to keep making. Its a completely different experience than just going and shooting at a range though....and MUCH better. Its worth it, and if you go, plan to participate or you'll be regretting it if you dont. One thing I will tell you, practice aiming offhand. This is not easy if youve never done it. All you have to do is close the opposite eye, and get used to doing it. This REALLY threw me off, and its still tough to get used to. If you have any questions for another newb feel free to PM me. Hope this video helps. 
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Posted: 11/17/2014 4:06:00 PM EDT
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Thanks for the insight and posting the video Bender. Will you be coming? Let's post any question in here, no questions are dumb and I'm sure it will be beneficial to others.
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Posted: 11/17/2014 4:39:40 PM EDT
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Thanks for the insight and posting the video Bender. Will you be coming? Let's post any question in here, no questions are dumb and I'm sure it will be beneficial to others. Theres actually a rifle match on the 22nd at metacon I'll be at. Then on the 23rd I have the CRO meeting at metacon, so I wont be able to attend. Im sure itll be fun as hell though. Me personally I'd recommend it to anyone that likes shooting and is physically able to. Honestly, you wont care about shooting behind a line anymore  .
That video was made at metacon FYI. But I think it shows basically the layout of a 3 gun match. Should be something similar at andover. |
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Posted: 11/17/2014 5:38:03 PM EDT
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Thank You John and Bender for the info and video !!! Hopefully I can make it out to see first hand how everything works before making the jump
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Posted: 11/17/2014 5:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank You John and Bender for the info and video !!! Hopefully I can make it out to see first hand how everything works before making the jump That would be great, I'll be taking an Arfcom roll call at the end of the week, hopefully we can get a group together. |
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Posted: 11/17/2014 6:26:18 PM EDT
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I'd love to check this out. I missed the one they did at Rockville fish and game.looks fun, nice video bending .
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Posted: 11/18/2014 12:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd love to check this out. I missed the one they did at Rockville fish and game.looks fun, nice video bending . More the merrier |
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Posted: 11/19/2014 6:54:41 PM EDT
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I'll be there, bringing my brother as well. Any problems with using an AR pistol as a "rifle" for the match?
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Posted: 11/19/2014 7:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be there, bringing my brother as well. Any problems with using an AR pistol as a "rifle" for the match? As long as it shoots rifle rounds, no issues. However keep in mind there will be rifle targets out to 100 yards and accuracy is stressed over speed. FWIW, I have a pistol AR as well, but will be using my 14.5". |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 10:20:11 PM EDT
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I just finished packing up my stuff to go tomorrow.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:13:35 AM EDT
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The course setup is pretty cool, it should make for a good run!
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Posted: 11/23/2014 3:08:00 AM EDT
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What's the address of the club?
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Posted: 11/23/2014 7:19:07 AM EDT
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122 Rt. 6, Andover CT. It will be on your right headed Eastbound. Kinda hard to see, look for signs on side of road and metal gate.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 7:36:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The course setup is pretty cool, it should make for a good run! Thanks for your help setting up! Hope you can make it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 8:52:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2014 9:54:26 AM EDT
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I almost FO'd. But I'm missing a couple of the required items and my longer range rifle shooting needs some work.
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Posted: 11/23/2014 5:33:22 PM EDT
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What's the recommended set up for 3 gun?
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Posted: 11/23/2014 6:56:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the recommended set up for 3 gun? This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics)  |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 7:51:21 PM EDT
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This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg Nice set up, I remember chatting with you for a minute. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the recommended set up for 3 gun? This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg Nice set up, I remember chatting with you for a minute. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 9:31:49 PM EDT
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This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg what optic do you have on the ar ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the recommended set up for 3 gun? This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg what optic do you have on the ar ? |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 11:36:49 PM EDT
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Gimlet - Which guy were you?
Typhoid - It's an Aimpoint PRO. I really like it, best optic for the money IMO. ETA: For those who shot the event, they're going to post your scores on the ASC website and email you if you put your info on the score sheet. Also pics are going up as they come in. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:40:12 AM EDT
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I was the guy with the ak.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:22:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was the guy with the ak. I remember, Romanian with all black furniture right? |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:18:56 AM EDT
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I was the guy with the ak. I remember, Romanian with all black furniture right? That's the one,not optimal for three gun but I felt like being different. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:05:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the one,not optimal for three gun but I felt like being different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was the guy with the ak. I remember, Romanian with all black furniture right? That's the one,not optimal for three gun but I felt like being different. Hell yeah, I thought it was badass. Only a few non AR platforms that I saw. There was a Sig 556 and a guy with a 30.06 deer gun. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:07:50 PM EDT
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JonhsMyName thanks I have no clue what to get , but the aimpoint pro was on my list.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:01:01 PM EDT
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No problem, I'm in no way an expert on the subject, but happy to share what works for me.
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Posted: 11/27/2014 10:04:42 PM EDT
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For anyone interest in pictures or the results I have posted information on the Andover Sportsman's Club website http://andoversportsmansclub.com/news-events/three-gun-shoot
It was a great event with an awesome turnout... I look forward to the next! |
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