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Posted: 4/6/2013 11:53:56 PM
It would seem to me that a rimfire AR-style might be "allowed." If that's the case, could you have a .22LR upper on an AR and avoid registering?

What about those MP-5 lookin' .22LR clones that have been all the rage?

The centerfire/rimfire distinction is all over the place... really hard to read...

Anyone read that differently?
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:13:38 AM
Hmmmm.. according to the Witkos camp, evil-looking .22LR's might be good to go...

I say for 4/20 at the capitol we all sling one.

http://wr2a.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/ct-state-senator-witkos-answers-faq-1160-must-read/
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:16:54 AM
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No on the ar15 22...

And no on the S&W
Line 1188 Bands it by name and doesn't say caliber...IE M&P15-22 It just bans them all
Smith and Wesson M&P15 Rifles; (xxvii) Rock River Arms LAR

But some of the evil 22's are good to go(I'm not naming any for the enemy to go add)...That's just my read on it...I'm not a lawyer
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:26:11 AM
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Originally Posted By 2StrokeLover:
No on the ar15 22...

And no on the S&W
Line 1188 Bands it by name and doesn't say caliber...IE M&P15-22 It just bans them all
Smith and Wesson M&P15 Rifles; (xxvii) Rock River Arms LAR

But some of the evil 22's are good to go(I'm not naming any for the enemy to go add)...That's just my read on it...I'm not a lawyer


On the M&P 15-22....we'll have to see how the state decides to interpret that one.... will it be an M&P-15, or will it be a distinct model....? I have a feeling that we'll know soon, since some folks will need guidance on registering them, or not.
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:29:36 AM
I just took that from the bill that was signed...As of now,I interpret to say any M&P15..Just like any ar15..
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:31:10 AM
Originally Posted By 2StrokeLover:
No on the ar15 22...

And no on the S&W
Line 1188 Bands it by name and doesn't say caliber...IE M&P15-22 It just bans them all
Smith and Wesson M&P15 Rifles; (xxvii) Rock River Arms LAR

But some of the evil 22's are good to go(I'm not naming any for the enemy to go add)...That's just my read on it...I'm not a lawyer


On the M&P 15-22....we'll have to see how the state decides to interpret that one.... will it be an M&P-15, or will it be a distinct model....?
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:45:30 AM
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Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:57:32 AM
I just got out of bed to say I think I was wrong because of the centerfire..God I really need something to help me sleep..Any buddy got Valium for ammo?
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Posted: 4/7/2013 1:27:09 AM
Go for the Scotch instead of Valium...

Yeah, the language in this law is f'ed...
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Posted: 4/7/2013 1:33:17 AM
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Posted: 4/7/2013 1:45:05 AM
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Originally Posted By muzzleblasted:
Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......


I think this is legal. A threaded barrel and thumbhole stock on a Ruger 10/22.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the language for a rimfire. Plus it is not banned by name.


This is what I make of it......

3. any unlisted semi-automatic rifle or pistol that can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of five specified features;

1. a folding or telescoping stock;

2. any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or other stock that would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

3. a forward pistol grip;

4. a flash suppressor; or ???????

5. a grenade launcher or flare launcher.


Personally, I think I'll spend 140 bucks and change the stock, just to be safe.....
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Posted: 4/7/2013 8:36:26 AM
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It is fine the way it is all of the listed features apply to unnamed centerfire rifles.

[(A)] (i) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following:



Public Act No. 13-3
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Posted: 4/7/2013 8:57:00 AM
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By muzzleblasted:
Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......


I think this is legal. A threaded barrel and thumbhole stock on a Ruger 10/22.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the language for a rimfire. Plus it is not banned by name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/500magnumnut/gun%20room/22night.jpg

This is what I make of it......

3. any unlisted semi-automatic rifle or pistol that can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of five specified features;

1. a folding or telescoping stock;

2. any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or other stock that would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

3. a forward pistol grip;

4. a flash suppressor; or ???????

5. a grenade launcher or flare launcher.


Personally, I think I'll spend 140 bucks and change the stock, just to be safe.....


It's one feature not two
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Posted: 4/7/2013 8:57:25 AM
Originally Posted By 2StrokeLover:
No on the ar15 22...

And no on the S&W
Line 1188 Bands it by name and doesn't say caliber...IE M&P15-22 It just bans them all
Smith and Wesson M&P15 Rifles; (xxvii) Rock River Arms LAR

But some of the evil 22's are good to go(I'm not naming any for the enemy to go add)...That's just my read on it...I'm not a lawyer


i interpret this the same as the colt ar15 and sporter,

only about 6 months ago, the state said that colt ar15a2,3,4 and sporter2 were not ar15 or sporter, and were good to go.

a buddy of mine picked up, and transferred through delta arsenal, a preban colt sporter match target or whatever the model was. no problems at all

so to me, i would believe that the mp15/22 is good to go.



of course i am not a lawyer, so take it with a grain of a salt
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We should all open carry pellet guns! That'll show em we won't tolerate any shit! (wait those are legal right?..I wouldn't want to piss them off)
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Posted: 4/7/2013 9:04:33 AM
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We should all open carry pellet guns! That'll show em we won't tolerate any shit! (wait those are legal right?..I wouldn't want to piss them off)


No those are not legal to carry, they are a "dangerous weapon" and like assault weapons you can only possess them in certain locations.
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Posted: 4/7/2013 9:20:09 AM
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By muzzleblasted:
Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......


I think this is legal. A threaded barrel and thumbhole stock on a Ruger 10/22.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the language for a rimfire. Plus it is not banned by name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/500magnumnut/gun%20room/22night.jpg

This is what I make of it......

3. any unlisted semi-automatic rifle or pistol that can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of five specified features;

1. a folding or telescoping stock;

2. any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or other stock that would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

3. a forward pistol grip;

4. a flash suppressor; or ???????

5. a grenade launcher or flare launcher.


Personally, I think I'll spend 140 bucks and change the stock, just to be safe.....



AHAHAH WINNING!! that's an awesome rig there. only thing that would make it better could be an integral suppressor. i LIKE
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Posted: 4/7/2013 9:29:31 AM
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By muzzleblasted:
Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......


I think this is legal. A threaded barrel and thumbhole stock on a Ruger 10/22.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the language for a rimfire. Plus it is not banned by name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/500magnumnut/gun%20room/22night.jpg

This is what I make of it......

3. any unlisted semi-automatic rifle or pistol that can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of five specified features;

1. a folding or telescoping stock;

2. any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or other stock that would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

3. a forward pistol grip;

4. a flash suppressor; or ???????

5. a grenade launcher or flare launcher.


Personally, I think I'll spend 140 bucks and change the stock, just to be safe.....


I suddenly lust for a 10/22
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Posted: 4/7/2013 9:30:59 AM
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Originally Posted By sardo_67:
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By muzzleblasted:
Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......


I think this is legal. A threaded barrel and thumbhole stock on a Ruger 10/22.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the language for a rimfire. Plus it is not banned by name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/500magnumnut/gun%20room/22night.jpg

This is what I make of it......

3. any unlisted semi-automatic rifle or pistol that can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of five specified features;

1. a folding or telescoping stock;

2. any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or other stock that would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

3. a forward pistol grip;

4. a flash suppressor; or ???????

5. a grenade launcher or flare launcher.


Personally, I think I'll spend 140 bucks and change the stock, just to be safe.....



AHAHAH WINNING!! that's an awesome rig there. only thing that would make it better could be an integral suppressor. i LIKE


OMG this is GREAT news! Now the squirrels will never know what hit em! ...and silly me, I thought things were getting bad
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Posted: 4/7/2013 10:55:58 AM
Originally Posted By bikerman9967:

It's one feature not two


Yea, I ordered another stock for it. http://www.usariflestocks.com/10-22-Stocks/Ruger-10-22-Stocks-Explorer.html

It's a whole lot cheaper that $10,000 in legal fees.

I can't wait when they smooth over the language on this. Maybe in a few weeks the exact law will be up to view. I think this is the voted on bill.....
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Posted: 4/7/2013 11:22:22 AM
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SB 1160 was the bill that was voted on. Public act 13-3 is the law.

This is the section that deals with firearms not specifically banned by name:

[(3)] (E) Any semiautomatic firearm [not listed in subdivision (1) of this subsection] regardless of whether such firearm is listed in subparagraphs (A) to (D), inclusive, of this subdivision, and regardless of the date such firearm was produced, that meets the following criteria:

After that what you have are the criteria for three separate types of semi-auto firearms:
A.Semi-auto centerfire rifles
B.Semi-auto handguns
C.Semi-auto shotguns




A: covers semiautomatic centerfire rifles with detachable magazines and one of 5 listed features
or semi-auto rifles with fixed 10+ magazines
or semi auto centerfire rifles less than 30 inches.



B Semiauto pistols any caliber
-seperate list of several banned features

C Semi auto shotguns
- have their own list of banned features
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Posted: 4/7/2013 11:36:32 AM
Originally Posted By gardenWeasel:
SB 1160 was the bill that was voted on. Public act 13-3 is the law.


I found it on line. Thank you.

I'm reviewing it for the language of a pre ban. Last weeks law was legal if made before 93, todays law is not, or is it? I'm searching.....
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:57:10 PM
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By gardenWeasel:
SB 1160 was the bill that was voted on. Public act 13-3 is the law.


I found it on line. Thank you.

I'm reviewing it for the language of a pre ban. Last weeks law was legal if made before 93, todays law is not, or is it? I'm searching.....


from what i understand, you cant buy any AR15 in classic form, including prebans. if you do buy a preban receiver, it has to be built according to new law
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Posted: 4/7/2013 12:57:30 PM
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By gardenWeasel:
SB 1160 was the bill that was voted on. Public act 13-3 is the law.


I found it on line. Thank you.

I'm reviewing it for the language of a pre ban. Last weeks law was legal if made before 93, todays law is not, or is it? I'm searching.....


If you are talking a rifle chambered in rimfire then any/all features are good to go. There is no list of evil features for Rimfire Rifles
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Posted: 4/7/2013 1:02:53 PM
Originally Posted By fortyfive4life:
Originally Posted By sardo_67:
Originally Posted By Pain:
Originally Posted By muzzleblasted:
Page 40, line 1225 describes assault rifles as "centerfire" and its underlined meaning it's a change. It seems as though there are no rimfire assault rifles unless they have threaded barrels etc. At least that's my interpretation but I've been wrong a few hundred times in my life! But if it has a mag that holds more than 10 rounds......


I think this is legal. A threaded barrel and thumbhole stock on a Ruger 10/22.

I could be wrong, but I don't see the language for a rimfire. Plus it is not banned by name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/500magnumnut/gun%20room/22night.jpg

This is what I make of it......

3. any unlisted semi-automatic rifle or pistol that can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of five specified features;

1. a folding or telescoping stock;

2. any grip of the weapon, including a pistol grip, thumbhole stock, or other stock that would allow an individual to grip the weapon, resulting in any finger on the trigger hand in addition to the trigger finger being directly below any portion of the action of the weapon when firing;

3. a forward pistol grip;

4. a flash suppressor; or ???????

5. a grenade launcher or flare launcher.


Personally, I think I'll spend 140 bucks and change the stock, just to be safe.....



AHAHAH WINNING!! that's an awesome rig there. only thing that would make it better could be an integral suppressor. i LIKE


OMG this is GREAT news! Now the squirrels will never know what hit em! ...and silly me, I thought things were getting bad


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