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looking for info on Ma. ccw laws. Pa. doesn`t have reciprocity agreements w/ Ma. but i read that we can get an appropated lin. to carry in Ma. looked at the Ma. state laws, but the out of state permit , i couldn`t find. thanks ahead of time for your info, and your time.
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Posted: 8/11/2012 1:10:05 PM
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looking for info on Ma. ccw laws. Pa. doesn`t have reciprocity agreements w/ Ma. but i read that we can get an appropated lin. to carry in Ma. looked at the Ma. state laws, but the out of state permit , i couldn`t find. thanks ahead of time for your info, and your time.


Unfortunately, MA intentionally makes non-resident permits so much of a hassle that most people don't bother with them. I'm sure others here can chime in wit more details, but you have to apply in person, the license is $100/year, and I believe your renewals must be in person, too, every year.

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Posted: 8/11/2012 9:27:03 PM
Hawgleg is telling it like it is.

You mail in your application and check, wait a few weeks for the date of your personal interview/fingerprinting/picture which is usually another 1-2 months later, then wait 4-6 weeks to receive your permit (restricted to NO carry). Rinse and repeat every year.
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Posted: 8/11/2012 9:44:21 PM
Originally Posted By LenS:
Hawgleg is telling it like it is.

You mail in your application and check, wait a few weeks for the date of your personal interview/fingerprinting/picture which is usually another 1-2 months later, then wait 4-6 weeks to receive your permit (restricted to NO carry). Rinse and repeat every year.


Wow, for $100/year, MA is restricting it to no carry? I hate this state.

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Are 10 round handgun mags a controlled item in MA? I can't find anything that says they are. I have some that I was planning to drop off at a friend's house in MA. If a license is needed, I'll just mail them.
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Posted: 8/11/2012 10:11:26 PM
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Are 10 round handgun mags a controlled item in MA? I can't find anything that says they are. I have some that I was planning to drop off at a friend's house in MA. If a license is needed, I'll just mail them.


No, you're all set, unless there's ammo in them. A fucking spent shell casing is a felony in MA unless the person who possesses it has a permit.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 1:25:33 PM
was going to get an "MA> APPROPATED CCW permit", out of state, but still can`t find any info on it. i wanted to do a search on a Legal ccw http:, but my cpu kept blocking the http;, so i gave up on it. anyway, thanks for your info and time. if anyone wants to check out a good weapons http:, go to PAFOA.com . they will help you w/ anything you need to know about pa. gun laws if you are traveling thru the Pa. state, and check out the open carry/ concealed section on the site. once the pafoa home page comes up, then click onto the forum on the top left side of the page. everyone have a good week.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 4:07:08 PM
MA does NOT recognize any other state's permits, period!

And it takes a personal visit to Chelsea MA (scheduled by the state) and waiting a few months before you can get a NR LTC out of MA. You also need a course cert by a MA State Police Certified Instructor (NRA certified is not a substitute) plus $100. Everything but the training has to be repeated annually and almost every NR permit issued prohibits CCW.
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Posted: 8/14/2012 7:51:30 AM
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Everything but the training has to be repeated annually and almost every NR permit issued prohibits CCW.


I have had my MA NR permit for 4-5 years and it has never been restricted. Are you saying they are now restricting them going forward?

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Posted: 8/14/2012 10:40:12 AM

Originally Posted By DWhitney:
Originally Posted By LenS:
Everything but the training has to be repeated annually and almost every NR permit issued prohibits CCW.


I have had my MA NR permit for 4-5 years and it has never been restricted. Are you saying they are now restricting them going forward?


Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Marching orders from "upon high" was to restrict drastically the number of NR unrestricted permits. You will need some serious justification to continue receiving unrestricted.

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Posted: 8/14/2012 9:14:27 PM
Originally Posted By LenS:

Originally Posted By DWhitney:
Originally Posted By LenS:
Everything but the training has to be repeated annually and almost every NR permit issued prohibits CCW.


I have had my MA NR permit for 4-5 years and it has never been restricted. Are you saying they are now restricting them going forward?


Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Marching orders from "upon high" was to restrict drastically the number of NR unrestricted permits. You will need some serious justification to continue receiving unrestricted.



A little off topic, but that is one of the reasons I really want National CCW reciprocity. Imagine the look on Menino's and Patrick's face.




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Posted: 8/21/2012 12:35:34 PM
Originally Posted By Hawgleg44:
Originally Posted By LenS:
Hawgleg is telling it like it is.

You mail in your application and check, wait a few weeks for the date of your personal interview/fingerprinting/picture which is usually another 1-2 months later, then wait 4-6 weeks to receive your permit (restricted to NO carry). Rinse and repeat every year.


Wow, for $100/year, MA is restricting it to no carry? I hate this state.



All is true except for the restriction being across the board. Some people do get a Non-Res LTC-A Unrestricted

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Posted: 8/23/2012 8:36:08 AM
VERY FEW anymore get unrestricted NR LTCs. You have to have very "specific reasons" to fit what FRB is looking for in order for them to issue a true CCW permit. This information is direct from the Director of FRB, who makes that decision.
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Posted: 8/23/2012 2:11:58 PM
Originally Posted By LenS:
VERY FEW anymore get unrestricted NR LTCs. You have to have very "specific reasons" to fit what FRB is looking for in order for them to issue a true CCW permit. This information is direct from the Director of FRB, who makes that decision.


Well, considering I was just up there on Tuesday, I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that nobody gets them anymore. The guy that did my interview went out of his way to ask me questions that would serve as justification for an unrestricted license, which I've had for the past several years without any problems. If you read the laws and think about how your situation would map to the need they outline as necessary (e.g. you fear for your safety), you shouldn't have an issue getting the unrestricted license.
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Posted: 8/23/2012 7:20:10 PM
Please read again . . . I said "VERY FEW . . ." not that nobody gets them.

Yes, if you fit their criteria you may get unrestricted. Also only one person makes that decision and chances are that you weren't talking with the Director at your interview, so whatever anyone else told you isn't cast in concrete. And people have been downgraded over the past year or so, so the past is no guarantee of the future.

Please come back and tell us if you did get an unrestricted permit, in a few months when you receive it.



Originally Posted By CenterMass0:
Originally Posted By LenS:
VERY FEW anymore get unrestricted NR LTCs. You have to have very "specific reasons" to fit what FRB is looking for in order for them to issue a true CCW permit. This information is direct from the Director of FRB, who makes that decision.


Well, considering I was just up there on Tuesday, I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that nobody gets them anymore. The guy that did my interview went out of his way to ask me questions that would serve as justification for an unrestricted license, which I've had for the past several years without any problems. If you read the laws and think about how your situation would map to the need they outline as necessary (e.g. you fear for your safety), you shouldn't have an issue getting the unrestricted license.


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Posted: 8/23/2012 10:22:46 PM
So exactly why would a person jump through the hoops, and drop the coin to get a "No Carry" permit?
Does it allow you to keep a gun in your temporary home in Ma?
Use it to buy ammo?
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Originally Posted By SurfAnimal:
So exactly why would a person jump through the hoops, and drop the coin to get a "No Carry" permit?
Does it allow you to keep a gun in your temporary home in Ma?
Use it to buy ammo?


My understanding is that permits are typically restricted to either target/hunting or sportsman and no-carry outside restriction. Target/hunting allows you to possess a firearm for target shooting or hunting and to transport it (for those purposes) in a locked container. Sportsman is very similar to hunting/ target except that it allows the licensee to carry for protection while engaged in certain outdoorsy activities in "remote" areas.

People would get restricted permits so that they can bring pistols and large capacity long guns into Mass for various lawful purposes- like competition (there are a lot of good competitions in Mass, including some that draw competitors from around the region and nation), to shoot on firing ranges in Mass (many RI residents like to shoot at AFS, for example....and there are some gun clubs in mass that have great facilities and low rates), and there are some people who want to hunt in Mass. Some people may also want it for security in transporting firearms and magazines "up north" to Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, upstate New York, or Canada- which are all popular hunting destinations and are likewise home to some great ranges and competitions. I was thinking about shooting a nice match in southern NH last spring. I decided against going because while I could FOPA my rifle and ammo through Mass (assuming that I didn't have opportunity to interact with any enthusiastic Mass LEOs), technically, it would have been illegal for me to drive my mags through Mass, even the preban ones. (I only own one 10 rounder) And, if I did have an adverse interaction with a Mass LEO, I would only have a federal law defense to fall back on for the gun....no state law provision. Had I possessed (even a restricted) Mass. LTC, I would have had no second thoughts taking my rifle and some preban mags up to NH to go enjoy myself.

I know that it may seem odd, but while I can carry without restriction pretty much anywhere here in Connecticut, except my primary employment, I would estimate that I carry for protection only slightly more frequently than I go to the range. I would also be the first one to admit that nearly all of my handguns are used much more frequently on the range than carried for protection.

Non-residents can not buy ammo in Mass under any circumstances, except (I believe) for on site use at firing ranges- though there have been certain events where ammo vendors have been known to unlawfully sell ammo.

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Well I used to have a membership at AFS, and they swore up and down that I was perfectly legal coming from RI into MA with my firearms as long as I had my AFS ID card.($295, at the time, I think).
I wouldn't do it now, I was a dumb kid back then.
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Originally Posted By SurfAnimal:
Well I used to have a membership at AFS, and they swore up and down that I was perfectly legal coming from RI into MA with my firearms as long as I had my AFS ID card.($295, at the time, I think).
I wouldn't do it now, I was a dumb kid back then.

That was 100% wrong (and illegal). After the recent suicide there, I doubt that they would be so brazen as to spew that sort of garbage. Some cops may give you a "pass", but you are legally screwed if one actually knew the law and decided to play hardball!

Only way to get an "exemption" from MGLs is for the legislature to pass a bill and the governor signs it . . . not going to happen!


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Posted: 8/25/2012 6:07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By SurfAnimal:
Well I used to have a membership at AFS, and they swore up and down that I was perfectly legal coming from RI into MA with my firearms as long as I had my AFS ID card.($295, at the time, I think).
I wouldn't do it now, I was a dumb kid back then.

That was 100% wrong (and illegal). After the recent suicide there, I doubt that they would be so brazen as to spew that sort of garbage. Some cops may give you a "pass", but you are legally screwed if one actually knew the law and decided to play hardball!

Only way to get an "exemption" from MGLs is for the legislature to pass a bill and the governor signs it . . . not going to happen!




Wow! Never heard about the suicide. Got a link?
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http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news/local_news/suicide-at-north-attleboro-gun-school/article_a3fe0c56-09f1-5f84-8736-1b2a738d1958.html

Originally Posted By SurfAnimal:
Originally Posted By LenS:

Originally Posted By SurfAnimal:
Well I used to have a membership at AFS, and they swore up and down that I was perfectly legal coming from RI into MA with my firearms as long as I had my AFS ID card.($295, at the time, I think).
I wouldn't do it now, I was a dumb kid back then.

That was 100% wrong (and illegal). After the recent suicide there, I doubt that they would be so brazen as to spew that sort of garbage. Some cops may give you a "pass", but you are legally screwed if one actually knew the law and decided to play hardball!

Only way to get an "exemption" from MGLs is for the legislature to pass a bill and the governor signs it . . . not going to happen!




Wow! Never heard about the suicide. Got a link?