 Blackhawk101
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Posted: 11/4/2009 5:00:55 PM
Originally Posted By Phixeon:
Is there anything on the books against an AR pistol? Yes. There is only one AR pistol that does not violate the ban but I cannot recall which one that is (Olympic?) |
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Posted: 11/9/2009 10:56:29 PM
CONNECTICUT:
Any magazine limits/restrictions on semi-autos (e.g. AR-15)? |
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Posted: 11/9/2009 11:01:10 PM
Originally Posted By Fab5Freddy:
CONNECTICUT: Any magazine limits/restrictions on semi-autos (e.g. AR-15)? No mag restrictions at all for anything in CT. |
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Posted: 11/11/2009 11:10:21 AM
Ok so how I read all of this (was on active duty out of connecticut during all of the stupidity of the AWB) is as follows:
I come to visit from Maryland with one of my AR's to shoot with my dad (not an AR owner), my 20" post ban A2 Bushmaster upper (HBAR with no bayonet lug and non thread barrel) attached to a Hughes Precision lower with a standard A2 stock is legal and good to go. My S&W M&P-15 M4 forgery with all the evil features and a working collaspable stock is not. Seems easy enough and I avoid any issues bringing one of my handguns (dad has enough and mine will stay home). No worries about magazines (20 or 30), I can bring what I want (in MD we can have 30 rounders but can not buy or sell anything within the state with greater than 20 rounds). Anyone see any problems (other than having to drive through NY and NJ)? |
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Posted: 11/23/2009 7:05:56 PM
[Last Edit: 11/23/2009 7:19:39 PM by OrionS]
Damned if this isn't the most confusing set of laws I've tried to forage through.
I'm in a similar boat as the previous poster. I have a postban 20" HBAR Bushmaster with standard suppressor. So, from what I've read (and am thoroughly confused about is) I can or can't have this upper on because it has the factory suppressor. But, if I put my Wilson Precision upper on with a match crown then I'm completely fine. So what does this mean? Are there no rack grade service rifle matches in CT? And I'll have to get a carry permit just so I can take handguns to the range for bullseye practice and competition? When was the last time someone from CT went to the National Matches? What a pain in the ass. I'm gonna be pissed if I get orders to CT and can't go to the National matches because I have to wait 8 weeks to get a freaking permit to carry handguns; I'd be getting the damn answer a friggin month after the matches are over. I'll only be able to friggin shoot rifle. Belay my last statement. Even with the non-resident clause, I'm sure I'd get a ton of shit trying to exercise that section. "A non-resident may carry a handgun in or through Connecticut without a permit for the purpose of taking part in a competition; for the purpose of repairing such pistol or revolver; to attend formal pistol or revolver training or to attend a meeting or an exhibition of an organized collectors group provided he is a resident of the U .S. and has a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver in the state or subdivision of the U.S. in which such person resides." |
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Posted: 12/28/2009 4:08:56 PM
[Last Edit: 12/28/2009 6:43:08 PM by testosterone2004]
What are the rules for inheritance?
I think they are disqualified, yes? The statue only says that it had to be in the state and registered before the date, the only exception being military deployment? edit... My reading comprehension is poor.... bequest of interstate succession.... The situation is inheritance of a rifle named on the CT AWB that is owned out of state. The rifle is willed to a CT resident. It's not clear if possesion could actually be taken of if the rifle had to sold/surrendered/otherwise remain outside of CT. "Any person who obtains title to an assault weapon for which a certificate of possession has been issued by bequest or intestate succession shall, within 90 days of obtaining title, apply to the department of public safety for a certificate of possession, render the weapon inoperable, sell the weapon to a licensed gun dealer, or remove the weapon from the state." I read that to mean an out of CT into CT inheritance can happen? edit again... arg..from the website Can I get a Certificate of Possession for my Assault Weapon now? No. The only exceptions to this would be a person who has been out of state serving in the military since October 1994, or a person who receives an Assault Weapon through bequeath or intestate succession providing the weapon already had a certificate. In these instances, the person has 90 days to register the weapon with the Special Licensing and Firearms Unit. |
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Posted: 2/21/2010 3:55:58 PM
this may be a stupid question, but a vertical grip is legal in CT correct?
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Posted: 2/21/2010 4:25:01 PM
Originally Posted By mikeg045:
this may be a stupid question, but a vertical grip is legal in CT correct? Depends what you're putting it on. |
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Posted: 2/25/2010 7:40:12 PM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Originally Posted By mikeg045:
this may be a stupid question, but a vertical grip is legal in CT correct? Depends what you're putting it on. a post ban ar15? |
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Posted: 2/25/2010 11:13:50 PM
Originally Posted By mikeg045:
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Originally Posted By mikeg045:
this may be a stupid question, but a vertical grip is legal in CT correct? Depends what you're putting it on. a post ban ar15? Good to go. |
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Posted: 2/25/2010 11:50:42 PM
Ok, I thought so, I just wanted to double check. Thank you for the help :)
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Posted: 5/28/2010 12:06:16 PM
Originally Posted By OrionS:
Damned if this isn't the most confusing set of laws I've tried to forage through. I'm in a similar boat as the previous poster. I have a postban 20" HBAR Bushmaster with standard suppressor. So, from what I've read (and am thoroughly confused about is) I can or can't have this upper on because it has the factory suppressor. But, if I put my Wilson Precision upper on with a match crown then I'm completely fine. So what does this mean? Are there no rack grade service rifle matches in CT? And I'll have to get a carry permit just so I can take handguns to the range for bullseye practice and competition? When was the last time someone from CT went to the National Matches? What a pain in the ass. I'm gonna be pissed if I get orders to CT and can't go to the National matches because I have to wait 8 weeks to get a freaking permit to carry handguns; I'd be getting the damn answer a friggin month after the matches are over. I'll only be able to friggin shoot rifle. Belay my last statement. Even with the non-resident clause, I'm sure I'd get a ton of shit trying to exercise that section. "A non-resident may carry a handgun in or through Connecticut without a permit for the purpose of taking part in a competition; for the purpose of repairing such pistol or revolver; to attend formal pistol or revolver training or to attend a meeting or an exhibition of an organized collectors group provided he is a resident of the U .S. and has a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver in the state or subdivision of the U.S. in which such person resides." you'd be a lot better off getting a non-resident permit, that way, if you do get transferred to CT, you'll be able to convert it to a resident permit very easily. |
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Posted: 11/6/2010 10:29:11 PM
Is Battle Comp considered a flash suppressor? It is advertized that it has the same flash suppression as an A2 flash hider.
I am looking at buying a Daniel Defense 14.5" Mid-length Lightweight barrel with Battle Comp 1.5" pinned via Smartgunner-com. Is it CT legal? |
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Posted: 3/30/2011 8:58:48 AM
Originally Posted By L71:
Is Battle Comp considered a flash suppressor? It is advertized that it has the same flash suppression as an A2 flash hider. I am looking at buying a Daniel Defense 14.5" Mid-length Lightweight barrel with Battle Comp 1.5" pinned via Smartgunner-com. Is it CT legal? If it is advertised that it has the same flash suppression as an A2 Flash hider, I would guess that it would be a flash suppressor and illegal on a Post ban rifle |
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Posted: 3/30/2011 9:05:48 AM
It's also listed as a California legal comp and muzzle break. It says the flash is comparible to an A2 not the same. This refers more to the flash visible to te shooter than to an onlooker.
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Posted: 3/30/2011 9:11:59 AM
I have one on a post ban. Actually it's on a preban right now but it was on a postban.
From their site; ■100% American made ■U.S. Patent Pending #63/343,941 ■Registered U.S. Trademark #3,903,660 ■California Legal Compensator and Muzzle Brake ■Precision CNC machined from 17-4 PH heat treated stainless steel bar stock ■Concave face protects exit hole from damage and enhances forward vent tuning ■Available in TWO finishes: Mil DTL 13924D Class IV black oxide or matte stainless ■BattleComp 1.0 has standard 1/2 x 28 RH threads ■Same overall dimensions as an A2, but half an ounce lighter ■Crush washer or shim kit included with every BattleComp ■BattleComp 1.5 extended version with 1/2 x 28 RH threads for .223 Rem/5.56 NATO comes pre-drilled for 14.5″ barrels AVAILABLE NOW ■BABC, threaded 5/8×24 RH, is a multi-caliber compensator for 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 7.62×39, and 7.62×51 rounds. The BABC is compatible with the new .300 AAC Blackout. AVAILABLE NOW ■BattleComp 2.0: A2 device-compatible version AVAILABLE NOW (Precision Shim Kit Included) ■SATISFACTION GUARANTEED: 30-day return policy Take that for what it's worth. IIRC we went over the legality of it in the "favorite muzzle brake" thread a while back. Disclaimer: This is in no way legal advice and is worth exactly what you paid for it. |
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Posted: 5/12/2011 6:54:52 PM
Originally Posted By Blackhawk101:
Originally Posted By Phixeon:
Is there anything on the books against an AR pistol? Yes. There is only one AR pistol that does not violate the ban but I cannot recall which one that is (Olympic?) I was reading through the CT penal code, and it looks like our mag locked XO-26 or SE-SSPs should be legal. They would ship to CT with a ten round magazine due to our restrictions in CA. We just got XO-26 approved by the ATF, so we're now trying to figure out what markets we can work in. Any local info would be greatly appreciated. :) 
Here's the link: http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS.html |
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Posted: 5/12/2011 9:42:37 PM
[Last Edit: 5/12/2011 9:54:22 PM by Andrapos]
Originally Posted By franklinarmory: Originally Posted By Blackhawk101: Originally Posted By Phixeon: Is there anything on the books against an AR pistol? Yes. There is only one AR pistol that does not violate the ban but I cannot recall which one that is (Olympic?) I was reading through the CT penal code, and it looks like our mag locked XO-26 or SE-SSPs should be legal. They would ship to CT with a ten round magazine due to our restrictions in CA. We just got XO-26 approved by the ATF, so we're now trying to figure out what markets we can work in. Any local info would be greatly appreciated. :)http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_800x280.jpg Here's the link: http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS.html Well with a vertical fore-grip that one is illegal right off the bat. ETA I see at your link that you have a letter from ATF saying it is "ok". I wonder how long before they change their mind? ETA 2 - I dunno why, but I have wanted an ARpistol for a while now, no matter how practical/impractical it may be. |
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Posted: 5/17/2011 12:34:55 PM
Originally Posted By Andrapos:
Originally Posted By franklinarmory:
Originally Posted By Blackhawk101:
Originally Posted By Phixeon:
Is there anything on the books against an AR pistol? Yes. There is only one AR pistol that does not violate the ban but I cannot recall which one that is (Olympic?) I was reading through the CT penal code, and it looks like our mag locked XO-26 or SE-SSPs should be legal. They would ship to CT with a ten round magazine due to our restrictions in CA. We just got XO-26 approved by the ATF, so we're now trying to figure out what markets we can work in. Any local info would be greatly appreciated. :)http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_800x280.jpg Here's the link: http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS.html Well with a vertical fore-grip that one is illegal right off the bat. ETA I see at your link that you have a letter from ATF saying it is "ok". I wonder how long before they change their mind? ETA 2 - I dunno why, but I have wanted an ARpistol for a while now, no matter how practical/impractical it may be. Make a muzzle loader AR pistol. That way you can do drag it through the tapco catalog, and it won't even have a paper trail on it. |
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Posted: 7/3/2011 10:15:07 AM
Quick run down: >Full auto only - OK as long as it is registered as a machine gun with the ATF >select fire - no go, not able to buy or sell in state. Those that had them before the ban were required to register them and get a cert of possession prior to July 1994 >semi automatic assault weapons listed by name - no go, not able to buy or sell in state. Those that had them before the ban were required to register them and get a cert of possession prior to July 1994 >post ban rifle (manufactured after 9-14-94) - good to go as long as they don't exceed the feature count. >preban rifles (manufactured on or before prior to 9-14-94) - good to go with no limit on features For more information click here. The thread used to be tacked but is not anymore. Not sure why. Looking at picking up what I think is a preban with a 9/6/1994 test target date (have yet to call the manufacturer to confirm). Assuming that date is correct is this a pre-ban for CT as suggested by the above? When I looked at the text of the law I saw dates as early as 1993. Thanks |
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Posted: 7/6/2011 5:27:16 AM
I just posed this same question over on the AR pistol section of this forum and have gotten mixed results. What Franklin Armory is saying is that their gun does not fall under the pistol or rifle catagory. According to BATF it is a FIREARM because it is over 26 inches and has a vertical grip. Thus making it not practcally concealable and not a pistol. The not practically concealable part gives it the label of not an AOW. Unless you hide it on your person, in which case you just made an AOW and now must registure it. I was doing this research and happened upon both the Franklin Armory and this sticky. PS Franklin Armory have you heard anything about being able to sell this item here since this was what i was trying to do on my own?
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Posted: 7/7/2011 7:51:32 PM
[Last Edit: 7/7/2011 7:54:12 PM by Got_Guns]
I dont see the franklin armory being allowed to own in CT
First of all it has a barrel less than 12 inches. So no matter what the ATF calls it (pistol - rifle), according to CT law it is a pistol. Secondly, it has a shroud that covers the barrel and a weight of more the 50oz (even though the site doest list its weight, it has got to be more than 50). So now it is an assault weapon. It also has a magazine that is outside of the grip. I dont know if its detachable or if you guys in CA use a bullet button on that thing. As far as the pistol rifle thing is concerned, someone correct me if I am wrong, but the States can have more restrictive laws but not less restrictive than the federal law. So even if you argue the point that "well, the atf says its a rifle so that trumps our pistol designation" it would be shot down. ETA: i see you have a maglock in that thing Even with the mag locked in it still violates the AWB as being a pistol with 2 violations - 1 being the barrel shroud and 2 being the weight. The only way to get that thing in CT is to make it a single shot. |
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Posted: 7/9/2011 8:11:27 PM
Originally Posted By Got_Guns: I dont see the franklin armory being allowed to own in CT First of all it has a barrel less than 12 inches. So no matter what the ATF calls it (pistol - rifle), according to CT law it is a pistol. Secondly, it has a shroud that covers the barrel and a weight of more the 50oz (even though the site doest list its weight, it has got to be more than 50). So now it is an assault weapon. It also has a magazine that is outside of the grip. I dont know if its detachable or if you guys in CA use a bullet button on that thing. As far as the pistol rifle thing is concerned, someone correct me if I am wrong, but the States can have more restrictive laws but not less restrictive than the federal law. So even if you argue the point that "well, the atf says its a rifle so that trumps our pistol designation" it would be shot down. ETA: i see you have a maglock in that thing Even with the mag locked in it still violates the AWB as being a pistol with 2 violations - 1 being the barrel shroud and 2 being the weight. The only way to get that thing in CT is to make it a single shot a 12.1" barrel and keep the 26" overall length, then it will simply be a "firearm" Fixed |
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Posted: 7/11/2011 5:38:05 PM
[Last Edit: 7/11/2011 5:42:53 PM by 17]
I found the other defintion that CT. has for pistol. the whole 12" barrel thing. Like Andrapos said 12.1 and overall of 26 good to go. it then it would be only a firearm. still fits the more restrictive CT laws. Yes, we are on the right track here...
I am still having Jay, From Franklin Armory check out the legality of his product in CT. He still seems to think it will pass muster as it sits. If it does my build is so on... |
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Posted: 7/12/2011 8:04:16 AM
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Originally Posted By 17: I found the other defintion that CT. has for pistol. the whole 12" barrel thing. Like Andrapos said 12.1 and overall of 26 good to go. it then it would be only a firearm. still fits the more restrictive CT laws. Yes, we are on the right track here... I am still having Jay, From Franklin Armory check out the legality of his product in CT. He still seems to think it will pass muster as it sits. If it does my build is so on... "As it sits" it comes with an 11.5" barrel meaning that CT state law will classify it as a pistol. If the magazine is not detachable then it would be good to go since that is a qualifier for our AWB, but keep in mind that CT does not have a definition of detachable/permanent magazine like CA does - meaning I wouldn't put much stock in the "bullet button" or similar methods of securing a magazine passing muster in CT. |
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