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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:05:53 PM EDT
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What, county employees need to eat too.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:31:47 PM EDT
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So this was a meter maid?
Ticketing cars for overdue inspections while waiting in-line at the inspection facility is a little like hunting over bait, no? |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 12:54:48 PM EDT
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Time to drag every ticket into court and get them quashed.
The 'adjudicators' will get bored after the tenth or twentieth time. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:16:15 PM EDT
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my last ticket in FFX was thrown out... cop was none too pleased
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:34:34 PM EDT
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Redwine appealed, got a jury trial last month and was acquitted within minutes. This is why you ALWAYS appeal to Circuit Court. General District Court criminal/traffic dockets are factories. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:37:03 PM EDT
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Time to drag every ticket into court and get them quashed. The 'adjudicators' will get bored after the tenth or twentieth time. That's my policy. I don't get many tickets, maybe one every 3 years or so for minor speeding. I go to GDC on every one, no pre-payment. Anything other than dismissal, I appeal it and have a full-blown trial in Circuit. If there's a major issue (like a Dillon rule issue), I'll appeal it to the COA. If you're going to go out of your way to fine me for some ticky-tacky bullshit, I'm going to get my money's worth out of you, Commonwealth of Virginia. 
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Posted: 10/12/2015 2:42:36 PM EDT
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Hogue was advised to see a magistrate and obtain a misdemeanor charge. Four days later, she did. But the magistrate, Fred Bubenhofer, issued a felony warrant for assault on a police officer. Hogue should be charged with perjury (for lying under oath to the magistrate) and sued into oblivion for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 3:05:37 PM EDT
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Hogue should be charged with perjury (for lying under oath to the magistrate) and sued into oblivion for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hogue was advised to see a magistrate and obtain a misdemeanor charge. Four days later, she did. But the magistrate, Fred Bubenhofer, issued a felony warrant for assault on a police officer. Hogue should be charged with perjury (for lying under oath to the magistrate) and sued into oblivion for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. She apparently has an ego to match her butt. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 3:07:28 PM EDT
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I see possibly an obstruction, but not an assault. And that depends on the lower question regarding where the cars were parked.
Either way, it's absolute bullshit that they're issuing parking tickets for no inspection, at an inspection station. Are these cars parked on the street, or in the guy's lot? If in the lot, I can't see how they'd survive any kind of 4th Amendment challenge. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 3:10:51 PM EDT
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Hogue should be charged with perjury (for lying under oath to the magistrate) and sued into oblivion for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hogue was advised to see a magistrate and obtain a misdemeanor charge. Four days later, she did. But the magistrate, Fred Bubenhofer, issued a felony warrant for assault on a police officer. Hogue should be charged with perjury (for lying under oath to the magistrate) and sued into oblivion for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. Can we through a filing a false report in with that since she called it in and had the officers come on scene? |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 3:45:00 PM EDT
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Same dept a few years ago went into restaurant bars and arrested people inside the establishment for public intoxication even if they weren't driving home. No calls or complaints about patron behavior, just some proactive policing.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 4:25:44 PM EDT
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Bruce is the man.
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Posted: 10/12/2015 4:36:57 PM EDT
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Time to drag every ticket into court and get them quashed. The 'adjudicators' will get bored after the tenth or twentieth time. Most people don't have the time for that though, thats the game that the gov plays. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 5:06:57 PM EDT
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I see possibly an obstruction, but not an assault. And that depends on the lower question regarding where the cars were parked. Either way, it's absolute bullshit that they're issuing parking tickets for no inspection, at an inspection station. Are these cars parked on the street, or in the guy's lot? If in the lot, I can't see how they'd survive any kind of 4th Amendment challenge. According to the article in the Post, the repair shop rents space in an industrial park, and the cars are parked on property owned by the industrial park. The park has sent a letter to FCPD authorizing them to enforce motor vehicle laws on their private property. That letter is what gives FCPD the authority to write those tickets. Of course, the ticket writers get graded on how many tickets they write, and this particular ticket writer has found a "sweet spot", and gets to fill her quota without any strenuous effort. That's why she heads to the industrial park first thing every morning. |
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Posted: 10/12/2015 6:11:29 PM EDT
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Fairfax and Loudoun cops = armed tax collectors, nothing more nothing less. Call a cop when someone breaks into your car, they don't fingerprint anymore last time I called they wanted to "take a report over the phone". At least pretend your here to "protect and SERVE".
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Posted: 10/13/2015 8:37:56 AM EDT
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I was a target of credit card fraud. It was determined that Fairfax County had jurisdiction. I submitted an online report that included all the pertinent facts and included THE NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF THE M.E. IMMIGRANT WHO STOLE MY CREDIT CARD INFORMATION as confirmed by the vendor who sold him the ill-gotten goods. After six months, I ignored the statement not to bother them by calling and finally got a hold of somebody who just told me that there was "not much they could do".
I said well, "not much" would still be better than doing nothing. 
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:17:37 AM EDT
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I see possibly an obstruction, but not an assault. And that depends on the lower question regarding where the cars were parked. Either way, it's absolute bullshit that they're issuing parking tickets for no inspection, at an inspection station. Are these cars parked on the street, or in the guy's lot? If in the lot, I can't see how they'd survive any kind of 4th Amendment challenge. According to the article, the garage space is leased and the property owner has given a blanket release to the PD to enter upon and police the property. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:20:35 AM EDT
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Most people don't have the time for that though, thats the game that the gov plays. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Time to drag every ticket into court and get them quashed. The 'adjudicators' will get bored after the tenth or twentieth time. Most people don't have the time for that though, thats the game that the gov plays. If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to open a "legal aid" clinic that does nothing but litigate stupid shit like this to the limit. Full trial in both levels of trial courts, and appeals. I'll even hire more lawyers if needed. Government will either learn to confine itself to things that aren't chickenshit, or will implode trying.
Sic Semper Tyrannis |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 10:22:27 AM EDT
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I was a target of credit card fraud. It was determined that Fairfax County had jurisdiction. I submitted an online report that included all the pertinent facts and included THE NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF THE M.E. IMMIGRANT WHO STOLE MY CREDIT CARD INFORMATION as confirmed by the vendor who sold him the ill-gotten goods. After six months, I ignored the statement not to bother them by calling and finally got a hold of somebody who just told me that there was "not much they could do". I said well, "not much" would still be better than doing nothing. If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 11:36:35 AM EDT
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Where are the pitch forks and torches?
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:33:06 PM EDT
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If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was a target of credit card fraud. It was determined that Fairfax County had jurisdiction. I submitted an online report that included all the pertinent facts and included THE NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF THE M.E. IMMIGRANT WHO STOLE MY CREDIT CARD INFORMATION as confirmed by the vendor who sold him the ill-gotten goods. After six months, I ignored the statement not to bother them by calling and finally got a hold of somebody who just told me that there was "not much they could do". I said well, "not much" would still be better than doing nothing. If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. This sounds interesting. The CC company relieved me of responsibility for the charge but I would still like to see this clown prosecuted. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 12:35:01 PM EDT
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Where are the pitch forks and torches? I was hoping you guys would be running a Black Friday deal on them? |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:27:04 PM EDT
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This sounds interesting. The CC company relieved me of responsibility for the charge but I would still like to see this clown prosecuted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was a target of credit card fraud. It was determined that Fairfax County had jurisdiction. I submitted an online report that included all the pertinent facts and included THE NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF THE M.E. IMMIGRANT WHO STOLE MY CREDIT CARD INFORMATION as confirmed by the vendor who sold him the ill-gotten goods. After six months, I ignored the statement not to bother them by calling and finally got a hold of somebody who just told me that there was "not much they could do". I said well, "not much" would still be better than doing nothing. If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. This sounds interesting. The CC company relieved me of responsibility for the charge but I would still like to see this clown prosecuted. I have been out of LE for about 7 years now but, if memory serves me right you can file the paperwork up to 1 year after the offense has taken place. If I am wrong, one of our resident LEO's should be by shortly to correct me. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:54:35 PM EDT
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I have been out of LE for about 7 years now but, if memory serves me right you can file the paperwork up to 1 year after the offense has taken place. If I am wrong, one of our resident LEO's should be by shortly to correct me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. This sounds interesting. The CC company relieved me of responsibility for the charge but I would still like to see this clown prosecuted. I have been out of LE for about 7 years now but, if memory serves me right you can file the paperwork up to 1 year after the offense has taken place. If I am wrong, one of our resident LEO's should be by shortly to correct me. Depends on the crime. 1 year for most misdemeanors, 5 years or "no limit at all" for more serious crimes. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 1:56:33 PM EDT
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Depends on the crime. 1 year for most misdemeanors, 5 years or "no limit at all" for more serious crimes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. This sounds interesting. The CC company relieved me of responsibility for the charge but I would still like to see this clown prosecuted. I have been out of LE for about 7 years now but, if memory serves me right you can file the paperwork up to 1 year after the offense has taken place. If I am wrong, one of our resident LEO's should be by shortly to correct me. Depends on the crime. 1 year for most misdemeanors, 5 years or "no limit at all" for more serious crimes. thanks for the catch, my memory is not what it used to be. |
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Posted: 10/13/2015 2:19:13 PM EDT
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This article certainly highlights the empowerment of the meter maid, needless harassment of too much gov, and further decline of " Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".
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Posted: 10/13/2015 4:21:04 PM EDT
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Things like this just might affect how I view the "Public Safety" bond referendum coming up.
Naw, I'll vote"no" as usual, and as usual it will pass and the jackhole Supervisors will incur even more debt in my name. 
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Posted: 10/13/2015 5:22:26 PM EDT
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thanks for the catch, my memory is not what it used to be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you have all of that information, don't even bother going to the police. Waste of time. Go to the magistrate yourself and swear out the warrant, just like the metermaid in this story did. Well, except yours sounds legitimate. This sounds interesting. The CC company relieved me of responsibility for the charge but I would still like to see this clown prosecuted. I have been out of LE for about 7 years now but, if memory serves me right you can file the paperwork up to 1 year after the offense has taken place. If I am wrong, one of our resident LEO's should be by shortly to correct me. Depends on the crime. 1 year for most misdemeanors, 5 years or "no limit at all" for more serious crimes. thanks for the catch, my memory is not what it used to be. However, the magistrate isn't under any obligation to issue the warrant. If you wait, many will want to know why. If there's no good answer, they simply will refuse to issue it. Whether this is lawful or not, I have no idea. But I've seen it happen a lot. However, "it took me time to investigate the matter on my own because the police refused to help" would sound like a pretty damn good reason. Also, if the magistrate DOES refuse, magistrate shop. Wait for another on duty. If that doesn't work, go see the Commonwealth's Attorney. They can direct an officer to take out a warrant, or speak to the magistrate and tell them that their office is willing to prosecute it. Before you do all that, have you tried speaking to a police supervisor or a detective? I'll admit, those cases are almost impossible to prosecute, especially if the person isn't local. Best of luck. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:31:38 AM EDT
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing.
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Posted: 10/14/2015 8:35:37 AM EDT
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. That is irrelevant, but thank you for contributing nothing of value. |
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Posted: 10/14/2015 5:53:38 PM EDT
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That is irrelevant, but thank you for contributing nothing of value. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. That is irrelevant, but thank you for contributing nothing of value. Wow  Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. 
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Posted: 10/15/2015 12:20:07 PM EDT
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Wow Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. That is irrelevant, but thank you for contributing nothing of value. Wow Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. 
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Posted: 10/15/2015 7:57:28 PM EDT
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Wow Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. That is irrelevant, but thank you for contributing nothing of value. Wow Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. Congratulations. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 9:38:31 AM EDT
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. Who, the mechanic? |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:11:03 AM EDT
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This ought to be an interesting rental renewal - landlord isn't helping with granting access. If I were the business owner, FCDP/inspection officers also cannot lift car covers to check for sticker. I would also give my customers a heads up, don't wait for the last day before inspection is due, mid-month gives everyone time to fix problems, especially emissions, so plates aren't dead. State inspection stickers, you have two weeks to fix problems with pink stickers.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 7:00:37 AM EDT
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If they're on private property (the parking lot of the business doing the inspection/repairs) how does the police department have authority to come onto the property, examine the cars and issue tickets?
Maybe VA is different but I used to live in WV and I remember one of the stores in town telling the town cops to stay off their property unless they were there to purchase items from the store. The cops were parking on the parking lot and writing tickets for various offenses. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 10:38:02 AM EDT
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If they're on private property (the parking lot of the business doing the inspection/repairs) how does the police department have authority to come onto the property, examine the cars and issue tickets? Maybe VA is different but I used to live in WV and I remember one of the stores in town telling the town cops to stay off their property unless they were there to purchase items from the store. The cops were parking on the parking lot and writing tickets for various offenses. Owners of private lots can grant the police access. It is usually done when there are parking problems. Commuters filling business lots type things. The owner probbaly was getting complaints from other tenants about excessive cars at the garages. The police used it as an opening to ticket for any reason. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 1:21:04 PM EDT
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Owners of private lots can grant the police access. It is usually done when there are parking problems. Commuters filling business lots type things. The owner probbaly was getting complaints from other tenants about excessive cars at the garages. The police used it as an opening to ticket for any reason. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they're on private property (the parking lot of the business doing the inspection/repairs) how does the police department have authority to come onto the property, examine the cars and issue tickets? Maybe VA is different but I used to live in WV and I remember one of the stores in town telling the town cops to stay off their property unless they were there to purchase items from the store. The cops were parking on the parking lot and writing tickets for various offenses. Owners of private lots can grant the police access. It is usually done when there are parking problems. Commuters filling business lots type things. The owner probbaly was getting complaints from other tenants about excessive cars at the garages. The police used it as an opening to ticket for any reason. We need to separate metermaids and police officers. The former does nothing to protect and serve, and yet her bad ethics was not only protected, but escalated to epic derp. In the city I work, private property may have it's own private lot management and tow companies. Doesn't sound like this was ever a matter for police.....and since she isn't even a cop, this is an obvious abuse of power( she never had). |
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Posted: 10/19/2015 9:13:05 AM EDT
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Wow Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. That is irrelevant, but thank you for contributing nothing of value. Wow Thank you. I finally get to use that "Ignore" button I paid for. You must have hit a nerve 
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Posted: 10/19/2015 1:51:17 PM EDT
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Who, the mechanic? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This all happened in April 2015. The guy is local (Fairfax County) and living in subsidized housing. Who, the mechanic? |
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