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Posted: 3/28/2015 6:37:54 AM EDT

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe announced on Friday that he vetoed legislation that would have limited the sharing of information on concealed handgun permit holders in a state database, one of 17 pieces of legislation passed during the 2015 legislative session he vetoed ahead of aSunday (sic) midnight deadline. (< - Here's the source - > ... and check out the headline the Washington Times editor gave the article.  )
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McAwful demonstrated again that he'll do what he can: to impede lawful gun ownership; as well as, to protect his cronies in the Edjimikation Union ... by preventing home-schooled kids from participating in non-academic school activities.  

The libtard stance is that parents must submit their children to edjimikaturs' political views as a quid pro quo for participation in non-academic activities that are otherwise difficult to provide.  Maybe this Obama/Bloomturd lackey will exempt families that home-school from paying the property taxes that fund the extra-curricular activities ... in which their children are not allowed to participate.

Just kidding.

<ETA> Here's a link to one of many incidents of Maryland's presumption-of-guilt (or presumption at criminal behavior) with respect to permit holders (as currently shared with all other states by the Commonwealth): < I'm a Link >
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The Washington Times may be the "conservative" alternative to the Washington Compost, but it's crap like this that keeps me from subscribing.  A more appropriate headline would be "Governor McAwfull Vetoes Legislation That Would Strengthen Virginians' Privacy and Civil Liberties Protections."



Whether its concealed carriers' personal information or an ordinary citizen's phone calls and e-mails, the Left believes that there is nothing that should be protected from the grubby fingers of Big Government....unless you're part of the ruling class, like the Clintons.



 
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The governor also vetoed a bill dealing with certification from law enforcement officers for certain kinds of firearms.
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Really the only bill I cared about this year (HB2009) and of course McAsshat would veto it.
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Well oddly enough, the state senator that wrote the license plate data retention bill (to severely limit the practice) is a NOVA democrat. And he's pissed that McAsshat watered it down.
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People like him want that data shared, not a big surprise.
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They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  



I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  



 
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Wait a minute, you pay property taxes but can't participate in school events?  Court case, anyone?
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They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  

I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  
 
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I hope they can override his vetoes.
They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  

I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  
 


Don't blame the Virginia Republicans, blame the national level Republicans who decided that Cuccinelli wasn't part of the country-club. They gave 1/4 of the level of funding that they had given previously to Virginia gubenatorial candidates. Scum sucking establishment Redumblicans that need to be driven out of the party before they destroy it completely, along with our country.
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And if we had law in this state requiring a run off election if the winner polled under fifty percent, that would have made a difference, too.
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My thinking is the Republicans have run their course, much like the Tories in the UK.  It's time for s party that can marry liberty to responsibility and not be easily mocked in the popular media; that party hasn't shown up yet.
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They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  

I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  
 
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They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  

I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  
 


Absolutely right. Bill Bolling deserved the nomination, and could have easily beaten McAwful. But Nooooooo! He wasn't "pure" enough. So the right-wing crazies forced a convention (which they packed with their Cuccinelli supporters), and the Commonwealth ends up with that Pus-bag McAwful.

Wonderful. Just fucking wonderful.
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Don't blame the Virginia Republicans, blame the national level Republicans who decided that Cuccinelli wasn't part of the country-club. They gave 1/4 of the level of funding that they had given previously to Virginia gubenatorial candidates. Scum sucking establishment Redumblicans that need to be driven out of the party before they destroy it completely, along with our country.


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They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  





I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  


 






Don't blame the Virginia Republicans, blame the national level Republicans who decided that Cuccinelli wasn't part of the country-club. They gave 1/4 of the level of funding that they had given previously to Virginia gubenatorial candidates. Scum sucking establishment Redumblicans that need to be driven out of the party before they destroy it completely, along with our country.


Absolutely wrong.  The national party were correct in how they handled that; Cooch was a terrible candidate and had NO chance of winning.  Bill Bolling had been the good soldier and was promised that race.  The state Republicans handed that election to the Democrats by cheating the system and shoving the rightful candidate out of the way so they could push out an unelectable ultra right wing fanatic.  McAullife should have been the easiest candidate to defeat, it would have been a cake walk for a guy like Bolling.   The national party was right in how they handled that, why should they throw away good money on a loser like Cooch?  The sad part about it is we also lost the AG and LT Gov. races, again, due to cheating the system to give us the most unelectable LT Gov candidate in the history of the Commonwealth, E. W. Jackson.  Mark Obenshain would have been an excellent AG, but thanks to having to share the ticket with losers like Cooch and Jackson, we have to suffer with Herring for the next 3 years.





In Virginia, the day the Ultra Right could win just by fighting the culture wars are over, but apparently some folks just don't see that.  You would think that losing the last three major elections would have taught you the lesson.  



 
Link Posted: 3/29/2015 12:36:19 PM EDT
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Aside from the occasional boat show in Annapolis, I honestly can't think of a single reason why I'd ever go to, or spend money in, Maryland.
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Absolutely wrong.  The national party were correct in how they handled that; Cooch was a terrible candidate and had NO chance of winning.  Bill Bolling had been the good soldier and was promised that race.  The state Republicans handed that election to the Democrats by cheating the system and shoving the rightful candidate out of the way so they could push out an unelectable ultra right wing fanatic.  McAullife should have been the easiest candidate to defeat, it would have been a cake walk for a guy like Bolling.   The national party was right in how they handled that, why should they throw away good money on a loser like Cooch?  The sad part about it is we also lost the AG and LT Gov. races, again, due to cheating the system to give us the most unelectable LT Gov candidate in the history of the Commonwealth, E. W. Jackson.  Mark Obenshain would have been an excellent AG, but thanks to having to share the ticket with losers like Cooch and Jackson, we have to suffer with Herring for the next 3 years.

In Virginia, the day the Ultra Right could win just by fighting the culture wars are over, but apparently some folks just don't see that.  You would think that losing the last three major elections would have taught you the lesson.  
 
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They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  

I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  
 


Don't blame the Virginia Republicans, blame the national level Republicans who decided that Cuccinelli wasn't part of the country-club. They gave 1/4 of the level of funding that they had given previously to Virginia gubenatorial candidates. Scum sucking establishment Redumblicans that need to be driven out of the party before they destroy it completely, along with our country.
Absolutely wrong.  The national party were correct in how they handled that; Cooch was a terrible candidate and had NO chance of winning.  Bill Bolling had been the good soldier and was promised that race.  The state Republicans handed that election to the Democrats by cheating the system and shoving the rightful candidate out of the way so they could push out an unelectable ultra right wing fanatic.  McAullife should have been the easiest candidate to defeat, it would have been a cake walk for a guy like Bolling.   The national party was right in how they handled that, why should they throw away good money on a loser like Cooch?  The sad part about it is we also lost the AG and LT Gov. races, again, due to cheating the system to give us the most unelectable LT Gov candidate in the history of the Commonwealth, E. W. Jackson.  Mark Obenshain would have been an excellent AG, but thanks to having to share the ticket with losers like Cooch and Jackson, we have to suffer with Herring for the next 3 years.

In Virginia, the day the Ultra Right could win just by fighting the culture wars are over, but apparently some folks just don't see that.  You would think that losing the last three major elections would have taught you the lesson.  
 


Complete and utter nonsense. The national party should have been strung up by their short hairs for the way they handled themselves. He had EVERY chance of winning and nearly did in spite of nearly insurmountable odds, most of which were from his own party. There was no "cheating the system" - if another candidate had gotten out their troops, they'd have won the nomination. They didn't and they didn't. Nobody should get "promised" ANY race, earn the nomination or endorse who does. Pure and simple. The fact is that it was Redumblicans who beat Cuccinelli, not that idiot McAwful.

If the national party doesn't get their head out of their ass and stop trying to alienate the real Republican base, they will cease to be a party within two, or perhaps even one, election cycle. This is both at the national level and the state level.

As for a convention vs. an open primary, I'd be OK with an open primary IF Democraps were not allowed to vote in the Republican primary. Not sure how you'd police that, though. Maybe require registration with the Republican party? Don't know. Either way, it still boils down to who has more boots on the ground to support their candidate. Sore losers make bad candidates and make bad Republicans as well.
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Complete and utter nonsense. The national party should have been strung up by their short hairs for the way they handled themselves. He had EVERY chance of winning and nearly did in spite of nearly insurmountable odds, most of which were from his own party. There was no "cheating the system" - if another candidate had gotten out their troops, they'd have won the nomination. They didn't and they didn't. Nobody should get "promised" ANY race, earn the nomination or endorse who does. Pure and simple. The fact is that it was Redumblicans who beat Cuccinelli, not that idiot McAwful.





If the national party doesn't get their head out of their ass and stop trying to alienate the real Republican base, they will cease to be a party within two, or perhaps even one, election cycle. This is both at the national level and the state level.





As for a convention vs. an open primary, I'd be OK with an open primary IF Democraps were not allowed to vote in the Republican primary. Not sure how you'd police that, though. Maybe require registration with the Republican party? Don't know. Either way, it still boils down to who has more boots on the ground to support their candidate. Sore losers make bad candidates and make bad Republicans as well.
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I hope they can override his vetoes.
They may get enough votes for an override in the House, never going to happen in the Senate, too many Democrats who will not go against the Governor.  





I'd like to thank the Virginia Republican party leadership for their getting rid of the Primary election and moving to a convention, where the house can be stacked to support unelectable candidates like Cooch.   Thanks to them and to Mr. Cuccinelli, we are stuck with this fool for the better part of another 3 years.   Nice job, guys.  


 






Don't blame the Virginia Republicans, blame the national level Republicans who decided that Cuccinelli wasn't part of the country-club. They gave 1/4 of the level of funding that they had given previously to Virginia gubenatorial candidates. Scum sucking establishment Redumblicans that need to be driven out of the party before they destroy it completely, along with our country.


Absolutely wrong.  The national party were correct in how they handled that; Cooch was a terrible candidate and had NO chance of winning.  Bill Bolling had been the good soldier and was promised that race.  The state Republicans handed that election to the Democrats by cheating the system and shoving the rightful candidate out of the way so they could push out an unelectable ultra right wing fanatic.  McAullife should have been the easiest candidate to defeat, it would have been a cake walk for a guy like Bolling.   The national party was right in how they handled that, why should they throw away good money on a loser like Cooch?  The sad part about it is we also lost the AG and LT Gov. races, again, due to cheating the system to give us the most unelectable LT Gov candidate in the history of the Commonwealth, E. W. Jackson.  Mark Obenshain would have been an excellent AG, but thanks to having to share the ticket with losers like Cooch and Jackson, we have to suffer with Herring for the next 3 years.





In Virginia, the day the Ultra Right could win just by fighting the culture wars are over, but apparently some folks just don't see that.  You would think that losing the last three major elections would have taught you the lesson.  


 






Complete and utter nonsense. The national party should have been strung up by their short hairs for the way they handled themselves. He had EVERY chance of winning and nearly did in spite of nearly insurmountable odds, most of which were from his own party. There was no "cheating the system" - if another candidate had gotten out their troops, they'd have won the nomination. They didn't and they didn't. Nobody should get "promised" ANY race, earn the nomination or endorse who does. Pure and simple. The fact is that it was Redumblicans who beat Cuccinelli, not that idiot McAwful.





If the national party doesn't get their head out of their ass and stop trying to alienate the real Republican base, they will cease to be a party within two, or perhaps even one, election cycle. This is both at the national level and the state level.





As for a convention vs. an open primary, I'd be OK with an open primary IF Democraps were not allowed to vote in the Republican primary. Not sure how you'd police that, though. Maybe require registration with the Republican party? Don't know. Either way, it still boils down to who has more boots on the ground to support their candidate. Sore losers make bad candidates and make bad Republicans as well.
The 2 term Republican AG, Mr. Bolling, was, in fact, promised the slot.  The state party changed the rules when the leadership decided to support Cooch instead.  That did happen.  It is also a fact that Mr. Cuccinelli was one of the worst AG's in the Commonwealths history and had no chance at all of winning the state as the only folks who were enthusiastic about him were the religious ultra right, who, in case you haven't noticed, are decidedly the minority in the Commonwealth these days.  If the party wants to run ultra right wing conservatives who want to spend the tax payers money revamping the state seal to cover the naked breast because of their discomfort with it, you shouldn't be too surprised when they get beaten in the election.  Yes, Cooch actually did that: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/cuccinelli-opts-more-modest-state-seal#





As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.





That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.




 
 
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The 2 term Republican AG, Mr. Bolling, was, in fact, promised the slot. The state party changed the rules when the leadership decided to support Cooch instead.  That did happen.  It is also a fact that Mr. Cuccinelli was one of the worst AG's in the Commonwealths history and had no chance at all of winning the state as the only folks who were enthusiastic about him were the religious ultra right, who, in case you haven't noticed, are decidedly the minority in the Commonwealth these days.  If the party wants to run ultra right wing conservatives who want to spend the tax payers money revamping the state seal to cover the naked breast because of their discomfort with it, you shouldn't be too surprised when they get beaten in the election.  Yes, Cooch actually did that: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/cuccinelli-opts-more-modest-state-seal#

As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.
   
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Complete and utter nonsense. The national party should have been strung up by their short hairs for the way they handled themselves. He had EVERY chance of winning and nearly did in spite of nearly insurmountable odds, most of which were from his own party. There was no "cheating the system" - if another candidate had gotten out their troops, they'd have won the nomination. They didn't and they didn't. Nobody should get "promised" ANY race, earn the nomination or endorse who does. Pure and simple. The fact is that it was Redumblicans who beat Cuccinelli, not that idiot McAwful.

If the national party doesn't get their head out of their ass and stop trying to alienate the real Republican base, they will cease to be a party within two, or perhaps even one, election cycle. This is both at the national level and the state level.

As for a convention vs. an open primary, I'd be OK with an open primary IF Democraps were not allowed to vote in the Republican primary. Not sure how you'd police that, though. Maybe require registration with the Republican party? Don't know. Either way, it still boils down to who has more boots on the ground to support their candidate. Sore losers make bad candidates and make bad Republicans as well.
The 2 term Republican AG, Mr. Bolling, was, in fact, promised the slot. The state party changed the rules when the leadership decided to support Cooch instead.  That did happen.  It is also a fact that Mr. Cuccinelli was one of the worst AG's in the Commonwealths history and had no chance at all of winning the state as the only folks who were enthusiastic about him were the religious ultra right, who, in case you haven't noticed, are decidedly the minority in the Commonwealth these days.  If the party wants to run ultra right wing conservatives who want to spend the tax payers money revamping the state seal to cover the naked breast because of their discomfort with it, you shouldn't be too surprised when they get beaten in the election.  Yes, Cooch actually did that: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/cuccinelli-opts-more-modest-state-seal#

As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.
   

That's not an open primary.  And that's the trouble with the VA primary system IMO - it is open.

Promised by who?  Shouldn't the voters, get to choose the candidate, as opposed to King Makers in the proverbial smoke-filled room?
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Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe announced on Friday that he vetoed legislation that would have limited the sharing of information on concealed handgun permit holders in a state database, one of 17 pieces of legislation passed during the 2015 legislative session he vetoed ahead of aSunday (sic) midnight deadline. (< - Here's the source - > ... and check out the headline the Washington Times editor gave the article.  )
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McAwful demonstrated again that he'll do what he can: to impede lawful gun ownership; as well as, to protect his cronies in the Edjimikation Union ... by preventing home-schooled kids from participating in non-academic school activities.  

The libtard stance is that parents must submit their children to edjimikaturs' political views as a quid pro quo for participation in non-academic activities that are otherwise difficult to provide.  Maybe this Obama/Bloomturd lackey will exempt families that home-school from paying the property taxes that fund the extra-curricular activities ... in which their children are not allowed to participate.

Just kidding.

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I had to read the links in order to figure out what is actually going on.  Sorry OP, no offence meant but your phrasing didn't work for me.  Summary below:

-McAuliffe vetoed legislation that restricted VA from sharing the identities of CHP holders with other states.

-McAuliffe vetoed a bill that would allow home schooled children from playing on school sports teams.
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As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

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I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.
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I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.
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Quoted:The 2 term Republican AG, Mr. Bolling, was, in fact, promised the slot.  The state party changed the rules when the leadership decided to support Cooch instead.  That did happen. It is also a fact that Mr. Cuccinelli was one of the worst AG's in the Commonwealths history and had no chance at all of winning the state as the only folks who were enthusiastic about him were the religious ultra right, who, in case you haven't noticed, are decidedly the minority in the Commonwealth these days.  If the party wants to run ultra right wing conservatives who want to spend the tax payers money revamping the state seal to cover the naked breast because of their discomfort with it, you shouldn't be too surprised when they get beaten in the election.  Yes, Cooch actually did that: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/cuccinelli-opts-more-modest-state-seal#

As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.
   

I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.


Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.
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Ultra right wing.
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Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.
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Quoted:The 2 term Republican AG, Mr. Bolling, was, in fact, promised the slot.  The state party changed the rules when the leadership decided to support Cooch instead.  That did happen. It is also a fact that Mr. Cuccinelli was one of the worst AG's in the Commonwealths history and had no chance at all of winning the state as the only folks who were enthusiastic about him were the religious ultra right, who, in case you haven't noticed, are decidedly the minority in the Commonwealth these days.  If the party wants to run ultra right wing conservatives who want to spend the tax payers money revamping the state seal to cover the naked breast because of their discomfort with it, you shouldn't be too surprised when they get beaten in the election.  Yes, Cooch actually did that: http://hamptonroads.com/2010/04/cuccinelli-opts-more-modest-state-seal#

As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.
   

I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.


Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.

It wasn't a huge majority.  You guys talk like McAwful won in a landslide.  I'd suggest it was the margin of fraud that got him in.... NoVA reporting very late and all (have to see how many votes the D needed to find).
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As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.
   

I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.


Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.

It wasn't a huge majority.  You guys talk like McAwful won in a landslide.  I'd suggest it was the margin of fraud that got him in.... NoVA reporting very late and all (have to see how many votes the D needed to find).


Having worked at the polls as an Officer of Election for over 10 years, I can tell you without a doubt that all this so-called election fraud is just so much horse shit. I firmly believe that there is quite a bit of VOTER fraud....where ineligible people cast votes. But as far as fraud involving the officials running the elections? No way. There are too many safeguards built into the process.
The vote counting machines are zeroed out before the polls open in the morning, and the totals shown on the counter are compared with the actual paper ballots when the polls close. In the last election I made a note of the vote totals at my precinct, and then compared my numbers with the totals reported in the paper the next day. The vote totals for all candidates matched.
Election fraud in Virginia is a felony. None of the people I worked with at the polls, even the most rabid liberals, would take the chance of going to jail over something like that.
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It wasn't a huge majority.  You guys talk like McAwful won in a landslide.  I'd suggest it was the margin of fraud that got him in.... NoVA reporting very late and all (have to see how many votes the D needed to find).
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As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.



That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.

   


I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.




Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.



It wasn't a huge majority.  You guys talk like McAwful won in a landslide.  I'd suggest it was the margin of fraud that got him in.... NoVA reporting very late and all (have to see how many votes the D needed to find).
The last two statewide elections have been close enough that both were winnable.  The national party didn't play because of the incorrect belief that that were going to be blow outs for the the Ds.

 



I don't like Cooch either, but the fact of the matter is that he was very much  an electable candidate.  Terry outspent him by a mile and won by a yard. 18 million more for 2% of the vote.
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As far as the end of the Republican party, retreating back to the age when fighting the culture wars and supporting extreme positions are what will doom it, not a willingness to run candidates who appeal to the center instead of the lunatic right.

That said, we are in agreement that it would make more sense to start registering party affiliation to keep Democrats from voting as spoilers in primaries.   Conventions are not the answer and have only resulted in inferior candidates who are very successful at losing, nothing else.
   

I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.


Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.

It wasn't a huge majority.  You guys talk like McAwful won in a landslide.  I'd suggest it was the margin of fraud that got him in.... NoVA reporting very late and all (have to see how many votes the D needed to find).


Don't discount the fact that many Virginians held their noses to vote for McAuliffe. For many people, it was the whole 'lesser of two evils'

Right or wrong, Cuccinelli's narrative was that of a religious right winger. Those folks aren't gonna fly in VA anymore, demographics just aren't on that side.

Find a reasonable republican that leaves the bible thumping and culture wars by the wayside, and you'll find a legitimate chance for R's to take the governorship.
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Don't discount the fact that many Virginians held their noses to vote for McAuliffe. For many people, it was the whole 'lesser of two evils'

Right or wrong, Cuccinelli's narrative was that of a religious right winger. Those folks aren't gonna fly in VA anymore, demographics just aren't on that side.

Find a reasonable republican that leaves the bible thumping and culture wars by the wayside, and you'll find a legitimate chance for R's to take the governorship.
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I'm an extreme libertarian, and I had no trouble casting my vote for Cuccinelli. He wasn't perfect, but he was a damned sight better than what we got.


Too bad that the majority of Virginians didn't agree with you. That's what happens when the right-wing bible thumpers get to chose our candidates.

It wasn't a huge majority.  You guys talk like McAwful won in a landslide.  I'd suggest it was the margin of fraud that got him in.... NoVA reporting very late and all (have to see how many votes the D needed to find).


Don't discount the fact that many Virginians held their noses to vote for McAuliffe. For many people, it was the whole 'lesser of two evils'

Right or wrong, Cuccinelli's narrative was that of a religious right winger. Those folks aren't gonna fly in VA anymore, demographics just aren't on that side.

Find a reasonable republican that leaves the bible thumping and culture wars by the wayside, and you'll find a legitimate chance for R's to take the governorship.

I agree with that.  And not just for the governorship, but the US Senate seats as well.  We really need to send Timmy Kaine packing.

I did think Cucc was not a bad candidate though.  He had a good record, but the media/liberal smear job stuck on him.
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If Warner came that close to losing to Gillespie, who didn't seem to run a great campaign, Timmay the Bitch should be beatable. But I won't hold my breath.
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What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.
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What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.
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the totals shown on the counter are compared with the actual paper ballots when the polls close.

What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.

Absolutely.  And the Rs are just as bad if not worse with that "his turn" crap.  Especially, it seems in VA.
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What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

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the totals shown on the counter are compared with the actual paper ballots when the polls close.

What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.


Voting in Loudoun County is by paper ballot. The marked ballots are fed into a vote counting machine (optical scanner) which records the votes. The number of votes shown on the counter is cross-checked every hour with the number of ballots given out. They must match.
At the end of the day, the ballots are removed from the machine and counted. The number of paper ballots must match the total shown on the machine counter.

I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.
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Voting in Loudoun County is by paper ballot. The marked ballots are fed into a vote counting machine (optical scanner) which records the votes. The number of votes shown on the counter is cross-checked every hour with the number of ballots given out. They must match.
At the end of the day, the ballots are removed from the machine and counted. The number of paper ballots must match the total shown on the machine counter.

I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.
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the totals shown on the counter are compared with the actual paper ballots when the polls close.

What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.


Voting in Loudoun County is by paper ballot. The marked ballots are fed into a vote counting machine (optical scanner) which records the votes. The number of votes shown on the counter is cross-checked every hour with the number of ballots given out. They must match.
At the end of the day, the ballots are removed from the machine and counted. The number of paper ballots must match the total shown on the machine counter.

I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.


I think we've only had one election here where everything was completely electronic. There was such a huge negative reaction to it that the city went back to using scanned paper ballots. That at least has some measure of auditability. On the other hand, it is trivial to buy a copy of the voter registration rolls, figure out who's dead, who's in another state (which is common), and/or in a nursing home and either vote for them or "help" them fill out an absentee ballot. Based on what I saw standing in line in 2008, I can pretty much guarantee that the latter is being done wholesale by the Democraps.

As for the nominating process, I want to have a say in that. That means, no back-room "his turn" nonsense. I want to hear from the people who are running and decide for myself which one should be representing the party. And, the rest should get behind the winner, and not be sore losers which serve only to hand the elections to the Dims.

Further, all the comments about the religious right not being the majority here in Virginia are completely full of crap. The demographics of the state show an overwhelming majority of Virginians self-identify as Christians, one of the largest percentages in the US. Where that falls apart is in the Northern Va area where leftist/communist imports from all over have infested the area, driving out the natives. Further, a large, large percentage in the population increase in NoVa are new, imported, .gov workers/contractors/leeches and immigrants, both legal and otherwise. Besides, if the state were so decidedly non-right-wingers, exactly how would we have a Republican majority in both houses of the state legislature?

So, you could argue as to whether the number of imports constitutes a "change in demographics" or not since, hopefully, with a new Republican administration, a lot of those new imports will be gone. Further, keep in mind that the black vote in 2008 and 2012 was almost 3 times the norm. Since between 85-90% of the blacks vote (D), that has a significant impact on the elections, even in off years. Once we are finally rid of Odumbo, I suspect the voting will revert to the norm and we'll see a swing in the election results from that perspective as well.
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I asked my new band the other day if we should play gigs at some venues in MD.

They looked at me like I had 3 heads.
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LOL...When I go to the Sharpsburg Battlefield I always make sure not to spend a damn dime in MD.
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I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.
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What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.




I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.


So your hate of Christians forced you to vote for McAulffie by way of Sarvis right?

Cuch was a very libertarian leaning candidate, who was not supported by the GOP or their $$$ because of that libertarian lean.
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This thread made me realize I haven't been to Maryland in a decade!!!  I took my five year old nephew to the RenFaire - it was frigging amazing to see it through his eyes.  And I enjoyed the young women in the amazing low cut bodices...
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I asked my new band the other day if we should play gigs at some venues in MD.

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Aside from the occasional boat show in Annapolis, I honestly can't think of a single reason why I'd ever go to, or spend money in, Maryland.


I asked my new band the other day if we should play gigs at some venues in MD.

They looked at me like I had 3 heads.


At least you'd be taking money from Maryland. Though, I still wouldn't do it.

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So your hate of Christians forced you to vote for McAulffie by way of Sarvis right?

Cuch was a very libertarian leaning candidate, who was not supported by the GOP or their $$$ because of that libertarian lean.
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What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.




I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.


So your hate of Christians forced you to vote for McAulffie by way of Sarvis right?

Cuch was a very libertarian leaning candidate, who was not supported by the GOP or their $$$ because of that libertarian lean.


I happen to be a Christian....not that it is any of your fucking business. And I voted for Cooch, as the lesser of two evils....not that my vote is any of your fucking business, either.

So you're wrong twice in one post.

Any more dumb shit opinions?



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I happen to be a Christian....not that it is any of your fucking business. And I voted for Cooch, as the lesser of two evils....not that my vote is any of your fucking business, either.

So you're wrong twice in one post.

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What paper ballots? All I've seen at my voting place for years is a machine that I have to trust is actually registering my vote as entered.

And regardless of Bollings qualifications or lack therof, the entire idea of "it was his turn" is how we end up with shitbags like Hillary being the presumed nominee.




I don't recall saying anything about Bolling's "turn". But I agree that his 8 years as Lt. Governor, and having been a loyal foot-soldier for the party for many, many years, earned him more consideration than he received. The biggest reason that he was shit on the way he was, was that he wasn't the rabid anti-abortion bible thumper that the ultra-right-wingers insisted upon.


So your hate of Christians forced you to vote for McAulffie by way of Sarvis right?

Cuch was a very libertarian leaning candidate, who was not supported by the GOP or their $$$ because of that libertarian lean.


I happen to be a Christian....not that it is any of your fucking business. And I voted for Cooch, as the lesser of two evils....not that my vote is any of your fucking business, either.

So you're wrong twice in one post.

Any more dumb shit opinions?





If it was none of my business then why did you post it? Talk about a dumbshit... Have a nice day.
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That's enough of that.
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