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Posted: 2/23/2012 5:54:39 PM
Aaaaaaand with an hour left before the store closes, still delayed. Looks like I'm heading into a third day.
What a joke. |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 6:36:47 PM
Originally Posted By madmike66:
^ Prior military, CCW holder, active security clearance, clean record, unique name and provided SSN. Into my 25th hour of my delay, with no end in sight. Sorry, but I just view this as an outright violation of my rights as an American and a Virginian, and it really pisses me off. There is absolutely no excuse for it. None. Wow, that's absurd. Hope it clears up soon. |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 8:36:01 PM
Originally Posted By cavtrooper:
I have always been delayed but the last time I did not enter the ssn and I went write through, sometines this has worked sometimes it doesn't make any differance but it is worth trying, I have had several customers that it has worked for. Here is Delg. Sherwood response to my email, , only took since Jan 13 to Feb 21st to respond Thank you for your correspondence and thoughts regarding the delays in background checks. The House Budget has proposed additional funding ($200,000) each year to improve the State Police Transaction Center's response time for background checks. Hopefully this will help. Beverly J. Sherwood, Delegate Virginia House of Delegates 29th District It's interesting he waited until yesterday to tell you that. There was just an announcement from the Gov.'s office yesterday that funding is being restored to many programs that have been recently cut and employees will get their first actual raise in years, because Virginia has done well economically in the past year. |
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Posted: 2/24/2012 1:09:41 PM
Day 3, 1:00 PM, still no joy.
Wrote the Governor yesterday (e-mail through the Governor's site). Be curious to see which comes first, the approval or the reply to my e-mail. BTW, my dealer has 13 guns sitting there waiting for approval. That doesn't hurt their business or anything... |
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Posted: 2/24/2012 6:48:29 PM
[Last Edit: 2/24/2012 6:48:55 PM by madmike66]
Headed to Day 4. And a weekend to boot...that's encouraging for my timeline
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Posted: 2/24/2012 7:23:16 PM
Bought 3 guns on 3 separate gun shop visits. Instant approval every time. (All three Late jan-mid feb)
Extremely common name, always put SSN. The only thing unique about me is that I was born in a communist country (NY State) All my work buddies are getting delayed 2 days at least. |
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Posted: 2/24/2012 9:46:34 PM
I just picked up two Glock 19s that I bought from AIM, and my background check went right through. There were plenty of people that were waiting around on delay, and the phone was ringing off the hook with people checking on their delays that were 3-4 days already.
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Dodge223
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Posted: 2/25/2012 1:36:19 AM
Buddy of mine tried to buy a lower tonight. Came back delayed almost instantly!! Hopefully he gets it tomarrow.
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Posted: 2/25/2012 8:33:11 AM
Got a call yesterday (Friday) from my FFL, stating that my background check from this past Saturday had cleared. I'll pick up the item (just a stripped AR lower) today.
Almost one week. Unsat. The guys from states with official waiting periods (as well as our anti-gunners in our state gov't) are laughing at us Virginians. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 9:13:43 AM
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether.
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Posted: 2/25/2012 10:45:42 AM
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Almost one week. Unsat. The guys from states with official waiting periods (as well as our anti-gunners in our state gov't) are laughing at us Virginians. Just called, still delayed. So I'm officially into day 4. I bet it's going to take about a week, I'm not holding out much hope for any movement on a weekend. Unsat indeed. I wouldn't be shocked if the Brady pieces of shit lobby against funding the call center to cause these sorts of delays. So pissed at Virginia right now. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 12:16:41 PM
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. Won't happen as long as VA insists on keeping the god damn state run checks instead of NCIC. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 1:08:39 PM
Originally Posted By pops2element:
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. Won't happen as long as VA insists on keeping the god damn state run checks instead of NCIC NICS. Fixed. 
Y'all are more than welcome to move to WV. We're in the process of changing our laws so that CHL = no NICS. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 3:06:22 PM
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. There were bills but forth this year to do that. As has been mentioned, it would require us to change the requirements for our CHPs, and to abandon the broken VA check system for the federal NICS (which seems to actually work). VA gets money for the VA check system. Do you think politicians want to give up money coming into the state? The bills did not get anywhere.  |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 5:13:27 PM
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. There were bills but forth this year to do that. As has been mentioned, it would require us to change the requirements for our CHPs, and to abandon the broken VA check system for the federal NICS (which seems to actually work). VA gets money for the VA check system. Do you think politicians want to give up money coming into the state? The bills did not get anywhere. It is not that our CHP laws would need to be changed. It is that Va has more strict disqualifiers then the federal system. In order to use the federal system only would mean that Va would have to change the laws on who is disqualified. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 5:20:00 PM
Originally Posted By rookie421:
It is not that our CHP laws would need to be changed. It is that Va has more strict disqualifiers then the federal system. In order to use the federal system only would mean that Va would have to change the laws on who is disqualified. That's not entirely correct. VA has some things that are more strict, and others that are not - most notably the fact that you can theoretically get a VA CHP three years after a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction, whereas there is a lifetime federal prohibition on purchase of firearms for such people. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 5:35:07 PM
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By rookie421:
It is not that our CHP laws would need to be changed. It is that Va has more strict disqualifiers then the federal system. In order to use the federal system only would mean that Va would have to change the laws on who is disqualified. That's not entirely correct. VA has some things that are more strict, and others that are not - most notably the fact that you can theoretically get a VA CHP three years after a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction, whereas there is a lifetime federal prohibition on purchase of firearms for such people. While you are correct, it is not every part of the dis-qualifiers, it seems to me like splitting hairs. As long as one dis-qualifier has to change, then the law has to change. |
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Posted: 2/25/2012 6:44:48 PM
It's not IF you get delayed, it's WHEN. Just because you haven't been delayed yet doesn't mean shit, you could find yourself delayed tomorrow. I have always instantly cleared until this time. My luck ran out and yours will too.
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Posted: 2/25/2012 9:10:37 PM
I called in 45 minutes before the store closed, and miracle of miracles, just got approved. Swung by, and got my Glock 23. Can't wait to shoot it, but the whole ordeal left a really bad taste in my mouth. Plan on writing more letters to state reps and such, the situation is just unsat.
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Posted: 2/25/2012 10:23:48 PM
Originally Posted By rookie421:
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. There were bills but forth this year to do that. As has been mentioned, it would require us to change the requirements for our CHPs, and to abandon the broken VA check system for the federal NICS (which seems to actually work). VA gets money for the VA check system. Do you think politicians want to give up money coming into the state? The bills did not get anywhere. It is not that our CHP laws would need to be changed. It is that Va has more strict disqualifiers then the federal system. In order to use the federal system only would mean that Va would have to change the laws on who is disqualified. To have the VA CHP bypass NICS at purchase, a periodic NICS check would need to be a CHP requirement, as it is for the states that currently use CHPs to bypass NICS at purchase. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:35:02 AM
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Originally Posted By rookie421:
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. There were bills but forth this year to do that. As has been mentioned, it would require us to change the requirements for our CHPs, and to abandon the broken VA check system for the federal NICS (which seems to actually work). VA gets money for the VA check system. Do you think politicians want to give up money coming into the state? The bills did not get anywhere. It is not that our CHP laws would need to be changed. It is that Va has more strict disqualifiers then the federal system. In order to use the federal system only would mean that Va would have to change the laws on who is disqualified. To have the VA CHP bypass NICS at purchase, a periodic NICS check would need to be a CHP requirement, as it is for the states that currently use CHPs to bypass NICS at purchase. You are talking about something diffrent. In order to do away with the Va. backround system, you do not have to do what you just mentioned. If you want to do away with the Va. system AND put in a caviat for CHP bypassing the check, your statment above would be correct. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 1:22:58 PM
Originally Posted By rookie421:
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Originally Posted By rookie421:
Originally Posted By DrMark:
Originally Posted By koolaid:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, VA needs to be like some other states, if you have a CCW permit, show your permit at time of purchase and bypass the call in altogether. This would bypass this delay bullshit altogether. There were bills but forth this year to do that. As has been mentioned, it would require us to change the requirements for our CHPs, and to abandon the broken VA check system for the federal NICS (which seems to actually work). VA gets money for the VA check system. Do you think politicians want to give up money coming into the state? The bills did not get anywhere. It is not that our CHP laws would need to be changed. It is that Va has more strict disqualifiers then the federal system. In order to use the federal system only would mean that Va would have to change the laws on who is disqualified. To have the VA CHP bypass NICS at purchase, a periodic NICS check would need to be a CHP requirement, as it is for the states that currently use CHPs to bypass NICS at purchase. You are talking about something diffrent. In order to do away with the Va. backround system, you do not have to do what you just mentioned. If you want to do away with the Va. system AND put in a caviat for CHP bypassing the check, your statment above would be correct. I know my comments are correct; I've been responding to the comment about VA CHPs being used to bypass the point-of-transaction checks. Refer to koolaid's quoted post above. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 1:38:25 PM
got ya. I missed his quote and thought you were referring to mine. My mistake, sorry.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 9:02:10 PM
I was ready to get delayed today, but wonder of wonders the approval came through in just a few minutes. Walter said there weren't as many checks being submitted today, probably few folks buying at gun shows since they don't want to get delayed at a show.
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Posted: 2/26/2012 9:10:44 PM
Instant today for me.
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