The next important hearing will be AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.
Upcoming Hearings, Assembly Government Affairs Mar 15, 2013 09:00 AM Agenda (Friday!)

The following is a link to view or submit your opinion on legislation.  

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

Here are the other bills that are out on firearms.  Clicking on the blue section below will take you to the specific bill.
AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.

AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.

HEARING: Fri. March 15, 9:00 Assembly Government Affairs Committee, Rm. 3143,
Videoconferenced to Room 4401 of the Grant Sawyer State Office Building, 555 E. Washington Ave., Las Vegas

MESSAGE: Please support AB196. Our gun rights are under attack. Please protect our Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms from any Executive order that could be issued by the President. (You may want to write your own message.)
CONTACT: Assembly Government Affairs Committee: Assemblymen:  
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],


AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per 30 rounds of ammunition.
We have sent in over 1100 negative comments on AB221, we need to send even MORE for this AB234 GARBAGE!

SB76 by Senator Settelmeyer, One gun all gun CCW.

SB137 by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.

SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness
to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.  Provides requirement of private party background checks (Hearing today at 3:30!)

SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW

SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark Counties Hand gun registration program.   Eliminates the CCW card and creates it as an endorsement on your driver’s license, lets you get a separate ID card without the endorsement on it.

I hit all of your listed items.

Some of those "against" comments make me want to choke people out:
sb76

Done, also posted it on Glocktalk on the NV forum.

I submitted my position and comments for all bills listed in the OP.  This is easy greasy, do it if you haven't.

I do wonder about the person who claims that unifying the CCW auto/revolver demonstration in live fire would cause the NV CCW to not be recognized in other states, ergo, losing reciprocity.

Does anyone anticipate that happening?  I thought that NV was the only state that mandated live fire with autos and revolvers separately.  Wouldn't this open NV's permit to more states, not less, and allow more states' CCWs to be recognized here?  

1. I'm GLAD I see a lot of FOR opinions on this.  Maybe the State will take notice.

2. I'm happy to see the campus bill has a LOT of FOR support behind it.  Two of the against are stupid. "are you going to carry it in your hand? You can't get it out fast enough and if you do, domino effect you shoot someone who's innocent"  
oh yeah....this one....Against We do not need guns in schools. The idea that a person possessing a gun on school grounds will somehow prevent some mass shooting is ludicrous.

3. I'm REALLY glad Richard is keep up on this stuff.  They're all in Vegas it looks like and I'm not sure what I would do if I showed up to the hearing.  Does the public get a chance to talk at the hearings?

An update on AB196 found at another site.
Not a happy assessment.
But it does point out who WE need to really lean on.
Particularly those of us who live in these guys districts.

And just FYI for the AR fans here, Chuck took his daughter to an LV range on her 13th birthday to shoot pistols and a pink AR-15.
Says she did head-shots first time out.
Also posted at the link.

http://www.muthstruths.com/

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Moderate Mike Gang Shoots Down Gun Rights Protection Bill.
On March 19, 2013, in Muth's Truths, by Chuck Muth
OK, so there’s a bill (AB 196) that would protect Nevadans’ gun rights from any Executive Order that could be issued by the President.
Pretty straight-forward. After all, any anti-constitutional effort to infringe upon our Second Amendment rights should be done by Democrats in Congress, not unilaterally by POTUS.

Anyway, every Republican member of the state Assembly is co-sponsoring the bill. But in the state Senate, only three Republicans are listed as co-sponsors: Sens. James Settelmeyer, Barbara Cegavske and Don Gustavson.
You know…the conservatives.

Senate Minority Leader “Moderate Mike” Roberson and his gang of Gumby Republicans have opted NOT to lend their support to the bill. Probably too focused on screwing Nevadans with $1.4 billion worth of tax hikes to be bothered with something as trivial as a core constitutional right, right?

The Moderate Mike Gang, by the way, includes Sens. “Blue Dog Ben” Kieckhefer, Joe “The Nanny” Hardy, Scott Hammond, Greg Brower, Pete “Tax My Meat” Goicoechea.

And Mark Hutchison. I still can’t figure out what this man is doing with these Gumbies.

3/21/13 RKBA bill update, thank you senator Settelmeyer!
I have tried to make the original links hot, I'm having trouble getting the HTML right, time for bed.
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Senator Settelmeyer update,
I am sending this email to you to keep you informed about firearm legislation. A hearing on the following bills will happen this Monday.  
Additionally Chairman Segerblom has invited the NRA to have a presentation to the committee.

Hearing  on 3/25/2013 at 9:00 am in Senate Judiciary.
SB137 by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.
SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW.
SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program. Eliminates the CCW card and instead puts it on the driver’s license as an endorsement, lets one get a separate ID card w/o the endorsement on it.
     
The following is a link to view or submit your opinion on legislation.  
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

Here are the other bills that are out on firearms.  
AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.  NO Scheduled Meeting.

AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early. NO Scheduled Meeting.

AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.
       Hearing was 3/15/2013,  in Assembly Government Affairs.

AB232 by Assemblyman Oscarson, gets rid of the requirement of a CCW to carry. NO Scheduled Meeting.

AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per 30 rounds of ammunition.
NO Scheduled Meeting.

AB340 by Assemblyman Hambrick repeals Clark Counties Handgun Registration.  NO Scheduled Meeting.

SB76 by Senator Settelmeyer, One gun all gun CCW.
       Heard on 2/17/2013, in Senate Judiciary passed that day. Passed Senate floor 21 to 0 on 3/4/2013.  In Assembly waiting for hearing in Judiciary.

SB137[/URL] by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.
       Hearing  on 3/25/2013 at 9:00 am in Senate Judiciary.

SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.  Provides requirement of private party background checks.
       Heard on 3/14/2013 in Senate Health and Human Services.

SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW.
       Hearing  on 3/25/2013 at 9:00 am in Senate Judiciary.

SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program. Eliminates the CCW card and instead puts it on the driver’s license as an endorsement, lets one get a separate ID card w/o the endorsement on it.
       Hearing  on 3/25/2013 at 9:00 am in Senate Judiciary.

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
       No Scheduled Meeting.

SB396 by Senator Segerblom provides for a ban if and definition of Assault Weapon, bans large capacity magazines, private party background check.
       No Scheduled Meeting.

Does commenting on these bills more than once do any good?

Probably not unless a hearing has been held and you add a response to something that was said there.
Might be good to cite the statement you are responding too.

I attended the senate Judiciary Committee hearings on SB137, SB 223 and SB226 this morning.
There was also a surprise fifteen minutes alloted for rebuttal to the earlier one-sided anti-RKBA "Informational Hearing".
Too bad I had zero advance notice of that so that I could prepare for it!
Not that it matters much, testimony was pretty well limited to the NRA guy, who is not a professional lobbyist or graduate of toastmasters.
He tries hard, but he is clearly not getting the type of support from NRA that is really necessary.
NRA members might want to ask NRA why not.
I was able to offer my expertise to any committee member who is interested in the facts, I submitted my card, but of course I do not expect any calls.
Another witness brought up some excellent statistics, but stats in support of gun ownership require hard copies and sourcing, while those seeking to diminish our rights are accepted without question.
Given time I could rebut every false allegation of the anti-Second Amendment "Information" submitted at the earlier Dog & Pony Show, but that is not the format available.
It seems our opportunity to rebut is going to be limited to the occasional surprise few minutes after other hearings.
This seems to me a clear intent to prevent those of us who oppose the anti-RKBA agenda from effectively rebutting the earlier set piece put on by professional outside lobbying organizations.
This is Nevada, lobbyist from Kalifornia or other socialist states have no right to attempt imposing their big government - screw the citizens agenda here!

SB 223 "Campus Carry" was heard first and was the only bill hearing to be conducted more or less under the normal rules of equal time for both sides.
The supporting side was rushed with only fifteen minutes to speak, the anti side was allowed to ramble and exceed their time limit.
The bias of the chair, Tick Segerbloom, was obvious for all three hearings and the "Informational Hearing" rebuttal.
On several occasions he allowed the opposing side to speak during the proponents time!
All the cop org's opposed the bill, still pretending that there is no real or imminent problem.
All the school admin opposed the bill, claiming the current "with permission" (that is almost never granted) is sufficient.
I think it is going to take a massive support effort to get School CCW  passed in this committee.

SB226 CCW endorsement on the drivers license and doing away with Clark County gun registration was up next and treated even more shabbily than SB223.
All the cops orgs opposed it in order to protect their turf, they flat out lied several times in their testimony.
When they were not flat out lying they were making misleading statements.
They were only able to cite ONE instance of registration allegedly solving a murder.
They implied that lots of stolen guns are returned to their lawful owners due to gun registration.
Funny how they do not have to provide hard numbers, but the proponents do.
They even claimed that it is not unusual for a prohibited person to attempt to register guns, but never gave hard numbers or stated how many of those person are prosecuted for possession.
They claim 85% of all handguns in Clark County are registered, but admit the criminals are not registering theirs.
Again the chairman allowed the opposing side to speak during the proponents time!
Another bill where I think it is going to take a massive support effort to get the bill passed out of this committee.

SB137 Constitutional Carry was heard last and no time was allowed for testimony in support after the author introduced and explained the bill.
He did run fairly long, but was clearly trying to anticipate questions and fully explain the bill.
The anti's still got to speak of course, and of course "Our" law enforcement agencies opposed the bill.
So much for separation of powers at the state level, uniformed officers attempting to control what laws will be passed that they will then enforce.
I'm getting a bit ticked off at this particular constant display of conflict of interest.
Again, without a massive support effort the bill is likely to miss it's next deadline.

Bottom line.
The fight to defend our RKBA is never-ending!
Our assignment of the moment is to gather our facts and supporting documentation, then submit them to the committee's and members of the legislature in numbers too great to ignore.

You may share your opinion with Legislators at: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

Just tried to get a transcript of the 3/15/13 Senate Committee on Judiciary "Informational Hearing on gun violence".
No transcript available but a video can be bought for $10.00

Anyone wanting a copy can get it from the legislature or can order it by calling (775) 684-6835.
Shipping will be another $4.00

A few of us should get that DVD and listen to it so that we may sift out and rebut the MANY lies and distortions that were accepted, and are still being accepted by the committee.

Richard thanks for the work you do!

I'll go in for part of the DVD, great way to load up the magazine of truth by having a record of lies.

I have the Dog & Pony Show video in hand.
I see no reason why I cannot make copies of it, it is the public record.

I want to distribute them to folk who will help me research the lies and disprove them.
Really too much for just one person who has to work for a living.

I can burn and mail CD's at no cost.
We have a week, maybe two, to become fully prepared for the next opportunity to demolish the ant's BS.
We have their BS on record.

Email me if you want to help.
[email protected]

Several gun Bills are scheduled for hearing in Assembly Judiciary on Wednesday at 8:00 AM!

We have nine pro-RKBA bills up!
There are three putrid attempts at sedition being pushed by extremist.
One bill appears possibly OK at first glance but has a lot of potential for abuse and expansion in a bad direction.

I have the BS "Informational Hearing on Gun Violence" on video CD.
This is what the anti's are depending on to support their extreme positions.
The lies and distortions presented there are being accepted without any fact checking.
WE have the opportunity to correct the record, but at three hours long I could use some help.
We need to get onto the worst lies in time for the Wednesday hearings!
The last time several bills were heard back to back the committee chairmans bias against our RKBA was glaring.
We need to pack the room on Wednesday, to support AB143 & AB195.
Also to crush AB234 and SB277.
SB277 looks to be a reactionary bill with too many open questions.

I did not make live links for all the bills this time around as there are already live links in the earlier post for this thread.


AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.
AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.
AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per 30 rounds of ammunition.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
       Hearing 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, at 3:30 PM

The following is a link to view or submit your opinion on legislation.  
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

Here are the bills that are out on firearms.  
Personal and Committee bill introduction deadlines have already passed, these should be the only bills on firearms this session.
So unless some really dirty tricks are pulled the list is now complete!
One dirty trick we have to prevent is bills missing their next deadline due to not getting their second hearing.
This is how Campus Carry was killed in the last session.

AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.
AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.
AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.
       Heard on 3/15/2013,  in Assembly Government Affairs.
AB232 by Assemblyman Oscarson, gets rid of the requirement of a CCW to carry.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.
AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per 30 rounds of ammunition.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.
AB340 by Assemblyman Hambrick repeals Clark Counties Handgun Registration.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.
SB76 by Senator Settelmeyer, One gun all gun CCW.
       Heard on 2/17/2013, in Senate Judiciary passed that day. Passed Senate floor 21 to 0 on 3/4/2013.  In Assembly waiting for hearing in Judiciary.
SB137 by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.
SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.  Provides requirement of private party background checks.
       Heard on 3/14/2013 in Senate Health and Human Services.
SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013 in Senate Judiciary.
SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program. Eliminates the CCW card and instead puts it on the driver’s license as an endorsement, lets one get a separate ID card w/o the endorsement on it.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.
SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
       Hearing 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, at 3:30 PM
SB396 by Senator Segerblom provides for a ban if and definition of Assault Weapon, bans large capacity magazines, private party background check.
       No Scheduled Meeting.

I submitted my opposition and comments regarding SB277.

Nice of Senator Settlemeyer to send this update

Senator Settelmeyer update,
Several gun Bills were scheduled for hearing in Assembly Judiciary a few hours after I sent my last alert.

AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per 30 rounds of ammunition.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
       Hearing 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, at 3:30 PM

The following is a link to view or submit your opinion on legislation.  
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

Here are the bills that are out on firearms.  Clicking on the blue section below will take you to the specific bill.  Personal and Committee bill introduction deadlines have already passed, these should be the only bills on firearms this session.

AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.
       Heard on 3/15/2013,  in Assembly Government Affairs.

AB232 by Assemblyman Oscarson, gets rid of the requirement of a CCW to carry.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.

AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per 30 rounds of ammunition.
       Hearing on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary, 8 am.

AB340 by Assemblyman Hambrick repeals Clark Counties Handgun Registration.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.

SB76 by Senator Settelmeyer, One gun all gun CCW.
       Heard on 2/17/2013, in Senate Judiciary passed that day. Passed Senate floor 21 to 0 on 3/4/2013.  In Assembly waiting for hearing in Judiciary.

SB137 by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.

SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.  Provides requirement of private party background checks.
       Heard on 3/14/2013 in Senate Health and Human Services.

SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013 in Senate Judiciary.

SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program. Eliminates the CCW card and instead puts it on the driver’s license as an endorsement, lets one get a separate ID card w/o the endorsement on it.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
       Hearing 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, at 3:30 PM

SB396 by Senator Segerblom provides for a ban if and definition of Assault Weapon, bans large capacity magazines, private party background check.
       No Scheduled Meeting.
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Did anything happen today??

BANANAS!  

Yes, lots.
Three bills heard, two good and one pile of wee Willy Horne's rancid vomit.

Very good turnout.

Horne is a lying D-Bag, but we already knew that.

I am trying to organize a full report without running several pages.
May just have to quote my notes and respond to each point.
Hoping to use most of the same as rebuttal to the BS slung about this morning.

It is truly disgusting to see so many legislators without a clue weighing what unconstitutional restrictions to place on us, or accepting so much self serving BS from LE and University admin.

We read a lot in the media about conflict of interest when Gaming or Mining has an issue.
Funny how attacks on our RKBA by LE and University liberals never get the same attention.

The chair was Assemblyman Jason Frierson (D-8).
He at least made an attempt at even treatment of both sides of each bill, that prick Tick Segerblom should have to take lessons from him!

More when I've gotten organized.
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AB143. "Campus Carry".

I think Amanda Collins has been made to relate her on-campus rape enough times already, PASS this bill and let us all move on.

Additional comments since they appear to be required.
Based on the notes I took this morning, by hand, so susceptible to human error.

Campus cops to students and faculty per this mornings numbers. 1 in 1200.
Apparently sufficient most of the time, except when it's not.
It was stated that about one percent of students and staff are CCW holders.
So permitting CCW would add about 1200 possible first responders at NO COST to the state or counties.
This yields a ratio of possible first responders of 1 in 92!
Certainly not all CCW holders will desire to carry on campus.
OK, lets assume an arbitrary number, only three hundred CCW holders on campuses.
Added to the one hundred campus cops we get 120,000 / 400 = 1 in 300.
A pretty good ratio, one that will certainly make our campuses much less attractive to any type of criminal capable of understanding the odds of their being stopped or arrested.
Criminals are often dumb, but they usually understand this type of statistic very well!

The argument of "Dry" and "Wet" campus is specious, liquor is available 24-7 very near every campus.
There is no CCW restriction in place at the bar across the street, students can and do buy all the booze they want at any of hundreds of stores.
Irresponsible people will do foolish thing regards of imaginary lines drawn around campus, we need to stop contriving excuses to limit the rights of the responsible folk.

Loose statistics were referenced claiming that CCW has little effect on crime.
Several peer reviewed studies contradict that claim.
In reality the mere display of a firearm is usually enough to end a threat, but that circumstance rarely gets any attention in our heavily biased "If it bleeds it leads" media.
I speak from personal experience here.

I find the opposition from alumni and other groups who NO LONGER ATTEND these schools irrelevant, they have no stake in the outcome of this bill.
I would like to attend classes, I will not so long as my second amendment rights are abrogated by a head in the sand policy refusing to recognize my right to personal safety.

Guns are already on campus to some degree by Law Enforcement (LE), I believe ROTC shooting ranges still stand on some campuses.
A pitiful few students who have TRO's against former spouses or similar have obtained permission for CCW on campus.
I believe the number was nine. 120,000/9 = 1 in 13,333.333>
Sorry, but that is no deterrent to criminals of any sort, that is a right DENIED!

I am also wary of Association of Students who claim a mandate to oppose, but never actually held a formal poll of any kind.

One opponent made a RIDICULOUS statement that they oppose CCW on campus as CCW must be "Balanced with the right to be free and safe".
That statement make NO sense.
It assumes that we live in a magic land where having to wait for an armed officer to respond in minutes is somehow safer than having an armed CCW holder available immediately.
A nice way to insult all CCW holders, but far removed from reality!

By the way, what UNIFORM shall civilians begin wearing to these hearings?
I really would like to know, I find the continued testimony of uniformed officers a clear conflict of interest.
It is the job of LE to enforce the law, not to decide it.
If officers wish to make a statement in support or opposition let them do so in their own name only, as mere civilians, as the rest of us do.
It's one of those separation of powers things I get concerned for, particularly when those in uniform appear to be given more credence than the average citizen.

In closing, the statement was made by a university representative that our campuses are safer than the surrounding area.
That may be true, except when it is not.
When it is not the consequences are too dire to ignore, "Gun-Free zone" really translates as "Free-fire zone" without fear of immediate response for criminals.

The true reasons behind the apparent increase in campus violence will have to be debated another day in another setting, but today the reality is that CCW on campus is long overdue as an equal rights issue and for it's almost certain deterrent effect.

if I heard correctly it seems there may be an amendment offered to limit CCW to evening hours.
That is not agreeable, criminals operate at all hours, particularly when many of our campuses are so rural and spread out.

University of Nevada Student Newspaper asking about campus carry LAST TIME it came up.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/uk_WuIke4fs[/youtube]

Honorable Assemblyman Frierson.
Members of the committee,

AB195. "Early CCW renewal".

This is an issue that would never have come up if some Law Enforcement departments had not failed to carry out their due diligence regards Nevada citizens CCW renewals.

That failure resulted in BATFE suspending the CCW exemption from the NICS "Brady Check" CCW holders had previously enjoyed.

Many CCW holders obtained their CCW in part as a means of lessening the $25.00 per firearm financial burden on enhancing their collection.

"Shall" legislative language has already corrected the formerly errant departments lax standards.
The CCW "Exemption" has been restored to Nevada CCW holders by BATFE.

The interruption in CCW exemption created an issue whereby some CCW holders are at a clear disadvantage to others.
AB195 seeks to redress this disparity, a laudable goal which should not be at all controversial.

I urge your immediate vote and "Do Pass" recommendation for AB195.

Thank you for your time,

Honorable Assemblyman Frierson.
Members of the committee,

AB234 The proper title would be "A multi front assault on Second Amendment rights".
I know this overreaching unconstitutional affront has a formal title, but reading the bill summary page the text is far too innocuous and misleading to be any sort of useful reference.
I am insulted by the bill, there is not a single acceptable line in it!
I am also disgusted that it attempts to be a "Catch All" bill disregarding any pretense of remaining a single subject bill.

Due to so much testimony being given today I am forced to go to my hand written notes for points to support or rebut.
Sorry, but this is going to be a long read!

I must point out that "Assault Weapon" as used in todays testimony is a pejorative fiction, with no relation to reality.
I challenge anyone using that term in regard to civilian arms to define it in a rational, objective, and quantifiable manner.

Assemblyman Horne opened his remarks by claiming he is not trying to deprive anyone of their Firearms rights.
Sorry again, I am unsure of the accepted and traditional way of saying this, but that is a very clearly disingenuous statement!

While the bill language may not on it's face deprive anyone of their rights to firearms immediately, the clear intent is to create punitive taxation and regulation in an effort to diminish and eventually curtail this right.

Chicago was brought up an a shining example of this sort of legislation being passed recently.
No mention was made of the resulting multi-party lawsuit, which would also be a certainty here if this were to pass in Nevada.
A lawyer should know to reveal this sort of detail.

Onerous fee's have a long history of being used to discourage lawful activity.
How anyone can claim that a tax on any right is acceptable defies all logic.
By Assy. Hornes testimony the "Poll Tax" would be acceptable so long as the amount of it remained less than a "significant expense".
SCOTUS disagrees, there is no "Acceptable" tax rate on our constitutional rights.
Who is to decide what is significant anyway, the plutocrat, or the single mother?

I find it fascinating that anyone would attempt such a charade, this very session has shown that even with a specific state constitutional amendment of long standing in place to limit a tax, it is still susceptible to increase, as the current Mining Tax bill confirms.
What is to prevent a future extremist legislature from revising this tax to any amount they see fit in an effort to prevent all lawful firearm sales? NOTHING!

Assy. Horne's cost examples were primarily firearms of around $400.00 retail.
As a firearms dealer of many years I can assure you that many firearms sell for much less, particularly used firearms.
These are often the "Youth Model" .22's, light hunting rifles, and inexpensive defense hand guns.
The proposed tax is regressive, it punishes the less wealthy disproportionally.
What is "Insignificant expense" to Assy. Horne may be a heavy burden to the young (Yes the young DO have firearm rights) anyone on a fixed income, or possibly even unemployed as a result of a prior attack.

The real agenda here is clearly to discourage the passing on of our firearms traditions to future generations and the abandonment of the shooting sports via exorbitant expense from punitive taxation, NOT preserving the peace.
No doubt this is an effort to diminish the fervor of future firearms rights supporters, we are NOT that easily discouraged!

Most nevada firearm purchases already require a $25.00 tax in the form of the NICS check.
Some CCW holders escape that tax, others do not.
Until nevada adopts the Fed. NICS system which has no fee we will continue to have a clear disparity in cost between some CCW holders and others, or those without a CCW.
I am certain the agencies depending on NICS fee's for their funding are not anxious to give up that income stream.

Another fact nor mentioned today.
Recent FBI uniform crime statistics confirm that "Blunt objects" such as common hammers, ball-bats, golf clubs etc. are used to commit assault as often as ALL types of long guns.
So in reality a simple hammer is statistically more likely to be used in an assault than any of the pejoratively named "Assault Weapon" firearms.
Will we now impose a $25.00 tax these common hand tools and sporting equipment as well?
What about violent video games, or controversial news stories?
Tax them per view, player or reader?
After all, any of these may be contributing factors to violent events in Nevada!
So you do see where taxing rights leads?

One more point regards the proposed tax and NICS checks.
Federal law does NOT exempt law enforcement persons from the NICS or related expense, there is no rational reason why Nevada should either.
Equal rights for all, EQUAL, not preferential for some just because they have or had a badge.

By Assy. Horne's testimony around 40% of firearm sales are via private party.
By that claim the the Nevada NICS program would require a 40% increase in staff and funding to accommodate the increase in required NICS checks.
Such an increase would also almost certainly require a new computer system.
In the past we have had poor luck with such major upgrades.
They would be quite a burden for a state struggling to fund it's current expenses and pending retirement system obligations!

As to the dire claim of Nevada gun shows being an attractive venue for out of state buyers, due to the alleged the "Gun Show Loop-hole" that is ALREADY a felony per Federal law.
It has been since 1968. If it is really an issue, (It's not.) then prevail upon the Fed. to enforce their current law.
The phrase "Gun Show Loop-hole"is another pejorative fiction.
Let us please base our law on fact not emotion driven knee-jerk reaction.
Particularly reaction driven by manipulative terminology designed to prevent rational discussion .

Holding private sellers responsible for the unforeseen future actions of a firearm buyer?
We do NOT hold brewers or car manufacturers responsible for drunk driving, hit and run, or accidents not attributed to design flaws.
This is nothing less than another attempt to curtail our civil right to freely dispose of our personal property without government interference.
More onerous micro-management of our personal lives and a boon for trial lawyers. Another conflict of interest.

Yet another point not mentioned today.
The Oboma justice department recently stated that "Any universal background check will not work" unless all law-abiding gun owners are forced to submit to mandatory "Gun registration"!
So this is not a simple check on firearm sales transactions, it is really a call for the gun registration required to enable future confiscation!

Tracer and incendiary ammunition.
Being from Southern Nevada Assy. Horne should be aware that this ammunition serves many legitimate purposes.
Several ranges in his area use  tracer ammunition for Mil./L.E./CCW training and as an attraction to thousands of tourist for night shoots.
Does he really want to discourage tourism enterprises in Nevada, particularly the Las Vegas region?

I am very tired of Assemblyman Horne continually stating that "as a responsible firearm owner" and claiming, "I speak for all responsible firearm owners" as some sort of free pass to excuse his extreme views.
Not true, as a responsible and law abiding firearm owner since I was eight years old I can assure you that he DOES NOT speak for me with his extreme and disparaging views!

I note that the DPS representative stated the proposed law would conflict with existing Nevada law, just one more excellent reason to never let this out of committee.

In summary.
This ill conceived extreme bill is clearly unconstitutional under both Federal and Nevada constitutions on several grounds.
It is clearly an extreme overreaction made to soften Nevada firearms owners up for additional draconian legislation as recently passed in Chicago, Colorado, NY and other places many Nevadan's fled from.
This bill has already prevented Nevada attracting lucrative new firearm related business to our state.
It is an affront to many current Nevada firearm business and all law abiding Nevada firearms owners while doing NOTHING of consequence about the criminal element.

This bill is utterly devoid of useful content, it is an abomination and should never see the light of day again.
Please shred it immediately, NO VOTE, DO NOT PASS FROM COMMITTEE!

Thank you for your time,
Richard B.
Gardnerville, NV

Well done, thanks Richard.

Ask Gun Monkey about his Banana.

Two items up Tuesday afternoon.
Both in the same room, one after the other.
The hearing is one where we get to testify.
The "Work Session" does not usually take testimony or comment, but may be followed by a committee VOTE on SB221!
In work sessions the committee MAY take answers to questions their members posed to experts (Usually their favorite lobbyist).
I am going to try to attend, if any questions come up I will try to get a word in to give real answers.

SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness (Defined as ?) to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.
Provides requirement of private party background checks/universal registration!
       Work Session 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
(Needs to be narrowly and explicitly defined in laymans terms, not just some run-around referencing more statutes!)
      Hearing 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, at 3:30 PM

277 is complete garbage.  No due process.  

Thanks for posting that Richard.  Time to to work - again.  

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I saw this posted earlier in the year but didn't give it much attention.

In the voice your opinion. It counts everytime you post on that bill right. Or is it a one time only deal?

I think it depends on how closely the legislator pays attention.
If they only look at numbers you can stack them them up like an internet poll.
But legislators do have the ability to check you name and district if they want to.
So they can detect repeat responses if they make the effort.
I would try to state something answering comment made at a hearing held since your fist comment, so the new comment is an update.

the wording central repository makes me cringe

Another question.

If a bill is not passed out of committee by the 13th it dies right? Such as Hornes bill for the Tax and Mental issues.

Well, yes it is supposed to work that way.

The reality is a bit different.
The "D's" control both houses and the committees.
So "R" bills will really die, but "D" bills may become zombies and return to life as parasites living off of another bill number.
I have seen this happen before!

This is one of the risk we face when the D's control both houses, it gives them a smug sense of superiority that excuses having to follow the rules.
If the R's had control of one house, either one, the rules would suddenly become very serious and genuine compromise likely.
The really CRAP bills would not even be introduced!

What we have now is an Oboma-ination attitude, "WE Won, you lost, get over it" the rules are whatever we say they are!

Several of our good bills are in danger, we need to push the committees to schedule hearings or votes for them as needed.
The anti's have "only" three bills which have had or will have their hearing on Tuesday.
The D's/Anti's are assured of having a vote in time, OUR bills are not assured of getting their first vote unless WE put on enough pressure.

The SB221 work session was moved to Thursday.
I will not be able to attend, and no testimony will be allowed anyway.
It still might be good if someone could monitor the session and report back to us.
Thursday is a deadline, so a vote is almost certain on Thursday.

SB227 was not heard until 4:48 PM as bills were taken out of order.

Even the bill author expressed reservations and some uncertainty over his own bill, he should just withdraw it.
I would urge that we pile on with that suggestion, the bill is not sorted out enough to be considered by the full legislature, just withdraw it until it can be corrected next session.
It seems several amendments have been introduced, hopefully they will be enough to derail it since they are coming in so late.

One of the authors main points seemed to be that there were 583 petitions for psych holds in 2012 and 0 (Zero) people have lost their RKBA so far as a result.
I'm not really certain what the point is there?
Is it that there are lots of crazy people who we cannot get committed, or that 583 people accused of being nuts were not crazy enough to lose their rights when there is a standard of proof required?

The usual power-mad crew supported the bill.
Washoe Sheriff's, NVSCA, and LV Metro.
"Tick" Segerbloom used the occasion more to make anti-RKBA statements than to ask real questions.
He appears determined to become the Di Fi of Nevada, supporting ANY bill that attacks our RKBA in any way.
His attitude is clearly that everyone should lose their RKBA on the slightest excuse, then they can try to get their rights back.

Several people and myself spoke against the bill.
"Due process" and means of appeal were the main points for many speakers.
A Christopher Fry (SP?) probably gave the longest and most detailed opposition testimony. I did not catch his title, I really need a hearing aid!
NRA has "tried to work with the author" but still opposes the bill as currently written.
Ditto for Stillwater Firearms Association and several others.

URGENT!  AB143, "Campus carry".

As of 12:40 pm today, Fri., 4-12- the Judiciary committee has NOT adjourned, which means it could be recalled later in the day.  EVERYONE TELEPHONE Judiciary Chairman  Frierson and request that he bring AB143 to a vote in committee in order for it to go to the floor for a full Assembly Vote  before Midnight TOnight.  It has to pass out of committee today or it's dead!  The phone number for Chairman Frierson's office is 775-684-8537. He's the only one who can bring it to a vote.

UPDATE - Screwed again!

The bill was not heard again and is no longer eligible for action.  This was done at the direction of the chairman of the committee.
Funny how we "Have" to allow a vote on attacking our RKBA at the Fed. level, but no such consideration for pro-RKBA bills in our state legislature!
In theory we can bring this back as an amendment to another RKBA bill IF we put enough pressure on our reps.
My experience is that only happens for lib bills.
Nice to see an exception this time, but not holding my breath.

Update of bill status thanks to my Senator, James Settlemeyer.

Senator Settelmeyer update,
Just a quick email to tell you the status of firearm’s legislation in the Nevada legislature.  
Today April 12th is 1st house committee deadline.  If a bill did not pass out of the committee, of the house that it originated, Assembly if it’s an AB or Senate if it’s an SB, then the bill died as it has failed deadline.
The following bills have survived the deadline.

AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.
       Heard on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary.
       Work Session on 4/05/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary passed unanimously.  On the floor was re-referred to Assembly Ways & Means due to a fiscal note.

SB76 by Senator Settelmeyer, One gun all gun CCW.
       Heard on 2/17/2013, in Senate Judiciary passed that day. Passed Senate floor 21 to 0 on 3/4/2013.  In Assembly waiting for hearing in Judiciary.

SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.  
Provides requirement of private party background checks.
       Heard on 3/14/2013 in Senate Health and Human Services.
       Work Session 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, Passed out PARTY LINE VOTE.

SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program.
Eliminates the CCW card and instead puts it on the driver’s license as an endorsement, lets one get a separate ID card w/o the endorsement on it.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.
       Work Session 4/05/2013, in Senate Judiciary.  Committee amended out the portion that eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program.  Passed unanimously.  
Re-referred on the floor to Senate Finance due to fiscal note.

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them. (No actual adjudication required as under Fed. law!)
       Hearing 4/09/2013  in Senate Health & Human Services.
       Work Session 4/11/2013 passed with Senator HARDY in opposition.

The following is a link to view or submit your opinion on legislation.  
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

The following bills have failed deadline and are considered dead.
AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
       Heard on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary.
AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.
       Heard on 3/15/2013,  in Assembly Government Affairs.
AB232 by Assemblyman Oscarson, gets rid of the requirement of a CCW to carry.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.
AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per round of ammunition.
       Heard on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary.
AB340 by Assemblyman Hambrick repeals Clark Counties Handgun Registration.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.
SB137 by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.
SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013 in Senate Judiciary.
SB396 by Senator Segerblom provides for a ban on Assault Weapons, a ban of large capacity magazines, and provides for private party background checks.
       No Scheduled Meeting.

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From past experience we know that the dead pro-RKBA bills are probably truly dead.
The odious anti-RKBA bills are all too likely to rise as Zombies, attached to some other bill, even a bill that began as a pro-RKBA bill!
So we cannot rest, we still have to kill SB221 and SB227 at the earliest possible opportunity.
AB195, SB76, and SB226 need our support more than ever in order to get their second hearing and vote, to survive the next deadline.

Campus carry was killed the same way as it was last session, the pustulant anti's are afraid to allow it to come to a floor vote.

The ONLY thing I see in SB 221 that I consider reasonable is they exempt CCW holders in Section 8.

I'm glad they're letting one gun and early renewals come to a vote.  Sometimes I'm tempted to drive there and see if I can talk to them but I doubt it.

Seems Chuck Muth has a few words to say on Campus Carry being killed by the committee chair.
He's not too happy about it.

http://www.muthstruths.com/

Senator Settelmeyer update,
Just a quick email to tell you the status of firearm’s legislation in the Nevada legislature.  April 23rd is the 1st house passage deadline.  If a bill did not pass out of the house that it originated, Assembly if it’s an AB or Senate if it’s an SB, then the bill will die as it will have failed deadline.  If a bill is in a money committee, Senate Finance, or Assembly Ways and Means it is safe from the deadline.

SB76 by Senator Settelmeyer, One gun all gun CCW.
       Heard on 2/17/2013, in Senate Judiciary passed that day. Passed Senate floor 21 to 0 on 3/4/2013.  In Assembly waiting for hearing in Judiciary.

SB221 by Senator Jones, Requires those that plead out due to mental illness to be reported in 5 days to the Central Repository.  Provides requirement of private party background checks.
       Heard on 3/14/2013 in Senate Health and Human Services.
       Work Session 4/09/2013 at 3:30 in Senate Health & Human Services, Passed out PARTY LINE VOTE.

SB277 by Senator Kieckhefer prohibits a person from purchasing a firearm if they have a petition for mental evaluation filled against them.
       Hearing 4/09/2013  in Senate Health & Human Services.
       Work Session 4/11/2013 passed with Senator HARDY in opposition.

The following bills while surviving the deadline have been sent to the money committees and need to have their fiscal impact evaluated before they can proceed in the legislative process.  Most bills do not survive the fiscal analysis in these economic times.

AB195 by Assemblyman Ellison, Allows renewal of a CCW early.
       Heard on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary.
       Work Session on 4/05/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary passed unanimously.  Re-referred to Assembly Ways & Means due to a fiscal note.

SB226 by Senator Settelmeyer, Eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program. Eliminates the CCW card and instead puts it on the driver’s license as an endorsement, lets one get a separate ID card w/o the endorsement on it.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.
       Work Session 4/05/2013, in Senate Judiciary.  Committee amended out the portion that eliminates the Clark County handgun registration program.  Passed unanimously.  Re-referred on the floor to Senate Finance due to fiscal note.

The following is a link to view or submit your opinion on legislation.  
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

The following bills have failed previous deadlines and are considered dead.
AB143 by Assemblywomen Fiore, the Campus Carry bill.
       Heard on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary.
AB196 by Assemblyman Wheeler, Requires Attorney General to defend citizens against action by unconstitutional Presidential Executive Orders.
       Heard on 3/15/2013,  in Assembly Government Affairs.
AB232 by Assemblyman Oscarson, gets rid of the requirement of a CCW to carry.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.
AB234 by Assemblyman Horn, Provides requirement of private party background checks, and a fee to go to mental health, $25 firearm sale, $.02 per round of ammunition.
       Heard on 4/03/2013,  in Assembly Judiciary.
AB340 by Assemblyman Hambrick repeals Clark Counties Handgun Registration.
       NO Scheduled Meeting.
SB137 by Senator Gustavson, the Constitutional Carry bill.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013  in Senate Judiciary.
SB223 by Senator Hardy, Allows school employees to carry with a CCW.
       Heard  on 3/25/2013 in Senate Judiciary.
SB396 by Senator Segerblom provides for a ban on Assault Weapons, a ban of large capacity magazines, and provides for private party background checks.
       No Scheduled Meeting.
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Just learned that SB221 and SB227 are up for discussion RIGHT NOW!

According to senator Settelmeyer the situation is NOT GOOD!

We need to FLOOD the legislature, RIGHT NOW!

I have work in an hour or I'd drive down there.  Just sent tons of emails and hit the Against button on those bills.

SB221 is going to have a full senate vote, SOON!  
If it passes there we have to stop it in the assembly.
If it passes the assembly as well our only hope would be a veto by Gov. Sandoval.

I am not that confident enough in his veto, and full passage would mean the "Momentum" would be against us for the next session even if he did veto it.
Nevada has been a fortress of individual liberty, it will be a national disaster if we do not stop these bills!
I do not want to see the anti's joyfully shouting that "even Nevada" has embraced their agenda.

I just read the Admendments this bill is real bad.

Oppose: SB221: Defacto Gun Registration
Vote Today or Tuesday in Entire Senate

It was amended on the Senate Floor today:
Copy of Amendment: http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/77th2013/Bills/Amendments/A_SB221_362.pdf

SB221: This is a gun registration bill. It requires a background check through a licensed dealer for any firearm you want to sell with some exceptions for family.
Dealers are required to keep on file any transfer of a firearm. This creates gun registration.
There is no limit in the bill on what a dealer can charge for transferring the firearm.
In California the dealers charge between $75 and $125 to transfer a firearm.

MESSAGE: Please Vote NO on SB221 which requires private party transfers to have a background check through a licensed dealer.  This essentially creates gun registration because the dealer must keep records of all transfers.  In addition, there is no limit on what a dealer can charge for a transfer.  In California, dealers charge between $75 and $125 per transfer. (You may want to write your own message.)

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You may also share your opinion with Legislators at: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/77th2013/A/

I can't believe that this was not only proposed in Nevada, but that it's still alive and advancing. WTF is happening to my state?

(Another) email blasted out to these clowns. Thanks for putting that easy to copy/paste contact list together.

Richard - thanks for all you do to keep us updated.  I cross posted this to NevadaShooters and am writing now.

As of a half hour ago they were in recess, but are coming back into session.
This MAY be voted on TONIGHT!

I cannot take too much credit for my post, my senator, some lobbyist, and the R party Org. have made this much easier than in past years.

People aren't contacting their representatives and letting the voice of the public be heard.  I'm pretty sure this was the same mentality of the people in Clark County when the gun registration came up....at this point I feel like those who HAVEN'T are too far behind and need to make up some ground work like their boss is talking layoffs and they're seeing temporary staffing agencies filling up the parking lot.

Honestly didn't know about this.

Been tied up with the federal stuff and the state stuff has slipped under the radar.

Emails sent - but I fear it may be too little too late.

Too many people think, "Hey I donate to NRA and they will take care of it for me".

Well, NRA is not sending the big guns to Nevada, they are only sending a volunteer who is NOT a professional lobbyist!
He is trying, but seems to need more practice and maybe some training in public speaking. (I get by on anger and long practice! )
Any genuine "Lobbyist" group needs more than donations to be effective, they need the calls and letters from the public to back up their claimed position.

The next time you hear someone cussing "Damn lobbyist" remember that YOU have supported lobbyist too.
When you contact your reps for or against a bill, you are lobbying.

We need to lobby VERY hard now, via every available means.

So Nevada isn't a priority?!

Not to knock the NRA (I'm a paying member as well), but why don't we get professional representation the way CO, MD, NY, CT and others get?