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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:10:59 AM

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Is the WI state fair g2g for ccw? I'm getting out of the army this thursday and will be back in town just in time for the end of the fair. Just wanted to check before I got there.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:24:58 AM
I didn't nor am I planning to go, but on the news they showed the entrances and there were big "No Weapons" signs.

That probably answers your question.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 8:46:33 AM
State fair is posted.

Note that there is a heavy police presences there this year. I probably saw 3 dozen different officers while there on Friday. So if you plan to do the concealed is concealed thinking, just know there is a higher likely hood of being spotted. How much higher? Who knows.

Also, no one under 18 can enter the grounds after 5pm with out a parent or guardian.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 9:08:47 AM
I am just going on a weekday morning and carrying spray with me.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 9:50:09 AM
I went Over the weekend, And there was ALOT of police walking around in and outside of the fair. Still had the wifes pp spray with, just in case
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Posted: 8/8/2012 10:31:35 PM
they don't wand. just look briefly in bags/purses. at least day i went sunday.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 10:39:54 PM
Originally Posted By xenophon21:
they don't wand. just look briefly in bags/purses. at least day i went sunday.


Fuck that.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 10:53:44 PM
I will not be going. The no carry thing doesn't work for me.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:54:53 PM
I was there today, we went early. On the way in there were two security people at the checkpoint and they ignored us. When we left at 4:30, there were 6 security people and two State Troopers. The only time we were fearful was when a cow being brought from the livestock barn to the Colosseum started to get spooked and kicked/ran into a thankfully empty stroller from some idiot mom who was too close. There was a much larger police presence after 2pm, before two I only saw 1 hot (female) state fair cop.

My advice is to avoid Saz's, they've taken a quality nose dive. The Ruben rolls at Slim's near the grandstand were awesome.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:13:35 AM
I was there yesterday too... did you happen to see a fat guy in an ARFCOM shirt?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:19:42 AM
Originally Posted By JimEb:
I didn't nor am I planning to go, but on the news they showed the entrances and there were big "No Weapons" signs.

That probably answers your question.


Do the police have weapons?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:56:25 AM
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The Ruben rolls at Slim's near the grandstand were awesome.


+1

Slim's makes one awesome Ruben Roll. I usually load up at Irish Fest.

Zero interest in the State Fair. Ozaukee, Washington and Waukesha are good enough for me.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:13:35 PM
Originally Posted By T-800:
Originally Posted By JimEb:
I didn't nor am I planning to go, but on the news they showed the entrances and there were big "No Weapons" signs.

That probably answers your question.


Do the police have weapons?


i was under the impression that "no weapons" signs in wisconsin also applied to LEO.
some debate about this was going on when the CCW law passed.
IIRC as the language stands now, no weapons means NO weapons by anyone.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:49:35 PM
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I was there yesterday too... did you happen to see a fat guy in an ARFCOM shirt?


That's half of Arfcom you just described... INCLUDING myself!! BWA HA HAHA!!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:00:26 PM
Originally Posted By Oobert:
State fair is posted.

Note that there is a heavy police presences there this year. I probably saw 3 dozen different officers while there on Friday. So if you plan to do the concealed is concealed thinking, just know there is a higher likely hood of being spotted. How much higher? Who knows.

Also, no one under 18 can enter the grounds after 5pm with out a parent or guardian.


I wonder if the regularly scheduled amish flash mob will make an appearance. Of course, the police will not protect you, no matter how many are there.

Enter at your own risk.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:14:30 PM
We were there yesterday –– was on the lookout for BFL but didn't see any. Thought I saw a Magpul shirt but it wasn't.

I thought about "concealed is concealed" but didn't. Tons of police presence, including pairs across the street at many points, extra screeners at entrance, layered, like some were just inspecting from the side. More than I've ever seen there anyway. All was well.

Kind of crappy with the light rain, etc. Stuff was closing a little early. Meanwhile the expo building was stuffed during rain.

Cream puffs were much smaller (less cream stuffed), disappointing.

Tried "Fat Elvis" –– peanut butter cup deep fried in banana batter with bacon... 'twas a let down. But the bacon was good.

Speaking of rolls –– Jake's Deli had a stand in the Wisconsin Products thing, they had corned beef or pastrami on rye (and Reuben rolls) –– yuuum.

Corn sucked as expected, it is going to be hard to find some really good plump sweet corn in Wisconsin this year. If anyone finds it, please let me know. Will pay premium! I wish they would sell "normal corn" for $x and "super premium kick ass sweet corn" for and extra buck or two.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:21:47 PM
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On a related note, the Jake's Deli had me thinking about another deli I saw on Man v. Food many months ago and never visited 末 Benji's Deli in Shorewood.

Was in the neighborhood today so I stopped in for lunch.

Had some "Mish Mosh" soup and this big pile-o-sandwich (corned beef and pastrami) on rye called the Hear-O Israel or something like that. It was $12.99 but I got my money's worth. Watch the video!!




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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:22:50 PM
Originally Posted By hawzwood:
We were there yesterday 末 was on the lookout for BFL but didn't see any. Thought I saw a Magpul shirt but it wasn't.

I thought about "concealed is concealed" but didn't. Tons of police presence, including pairs across the street at many points, extra screeners at entrance, layered, like some were just inspecting from the side. More than I've ever seen there anyway. All was well.

Kind of crappy with the light rain, etc. Stuff was closing a little early. Meanwhile the expo building was stuffed during rain.

Cream puffs were much smaller (less cream stuffed), disappointing.

Tried "Fat Elvis" 末 peanut butter cup deep fried in banana batter with bacon... 'twas a let down. But the bacon was good.

Speaking of rolls 末 Jake's Deli had a stand in the Wisconsin Products thing, they had corned beef or pastrami on rye (and Reuben rolls) 末 yuuum.

Corn sucked as expected, it is going to be hard to find some really good plump sweet corn in Wisconsin this year. If anyone finds it, please let me know. Will pay premium! I wish they would sell "normal corn" for $x and "super premium kick ass sweet corn" for and extra buck or two.



Are they a big thing? I saw them, but haven't heard of them. Maybe I run in the wrong circles.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:24:41 PM
Originally Posted By TheRX7Project:
I was there yesterday too... did you happen to see a fat guy in an ARFCOM shirt?


Nope, I am not sure I would spot a BFL in the wild however. I have yet to spot one on a car, and I am sure there are like 10 members within 5 miles of me

If I did spot am ARFCOM shirt or BFL, I would be sure to say something to them.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:24:55 PM

Originally Posted By Bill2k1:
Originally Posted By hawzwood:
We were there yesterday 末 was on the lookout for BFL but didn't see any. Thought I saw a Magpul shirt but it wasn't.

I thought about "concealed is concealed" but didn't. Tons of police presence, including pairs across the street at many points, extra screeners at entrance, layered, like some were just inspecting from the side. More than I've ever seen there anyway. All was well.

Kind of crappy with the light rain, etc. Stuff was closing a little early. Meanwhile the expo building was stuffed during rain.

Cream puffs were much smaller (less cream stuffed), disappointing.

Tried "Fat Elvis" 末 peanut butter cup deep fried in banana batter with bacon... 'twas a let down. But the bacon was good.

Speaking of rolls 末 Jake's Deli had a stand in the Wisconsin Products thing, they had corned beef or pastrami on rye (and Reuben rolls) 末 yuuum.

Corn sucked as expected, it is going to be hard to find some really good plump sweet corn in Wisconsin this year. If anyone finds it, please let me know. Will pay premium! I wish they would sell "normal corn" for $x and "super premium kick ass sweet corn" for and extra buck or two.



Are they a big thing? I saw them, but haven't heard of them. Maybe I run in the wrong circles.


...except for that 17th and North Ave. thing.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:27:05 PM
Originally Posted By hawzwood:

Originally Posted By Bill2k1:
Originally Posted By hawzwood:
We were there yesterday 末 was on the lookout for BFL but didn't see any. Thought I saw a Magpul shirt but it wasn't.

I thought about "concealed is concealed" but didn't. Tons of police presence, including pairs across the street at many points, extra screeners at entrance, layered, like some were just inspecting from the side. More than I've ever seen there anyway. All was well.

Kind of crappy with the light rain, etc. Stuff was closing a little early. Meanwhile the expo building was stuffed during rain.

Cream puffs were much smaller (less cream stuffed), disappointing.

Tried "Fat Elvis" 末 peanut butter cup deep fried in banana batter with bacon... 'twas a let down. But the bacon was good.

Speaking of rolls 末 Jake's Deli had a stand in the Wisconsin Products thing, they had corned beef or pastrami on rye (and Reuben rolls) 末 yuuum.

Corn sucked as expected, it is going to be hard to find some really good plump sweet corn in Wisconsin this year. If anyone finds it, please let me know. Will pay premium! I wish they would sell "normal corn" for $x and "super premium kick ass sweet corn" for and extra buck or two.



Are they a big thing? I saw them, but haven't heard of them. Maybe I run in the wrong circles.


...except for that 17th and North Ave. thing.



I hope they are open late
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:58:45 AM
So, with the large police presence at the Fair, how much less police presence is there throughout the rest of the City? Sure, they may be keeping the riff-raff out of the Fair, but then that same riff-raff is running around the rest of the unprotected City doing their shit. Nice.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 12:42:38 PM
Originally Posted By jrpett:
So, with the large police presence at the Fair, how much less police presence is there throughout the rest of the City? Sure, they may be keeping the riff-raff out of the Fair, but then that same riff-raff is running around the rest of the unprotected City doing their shit. Nice.


The fair has it's own police force. I would imagine West Allis is working mucho OT to avoid a drop in staffing in other parts of the city. The fair grounds are not in the city of Milwaukee, it is its own little town.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 12:54:31 PM
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Originally Posted By JimEb:
I didn't nor am I planning to go, but on the news they showed the entrances and there were big "No Weapons" signs.

That probably answers your question.


Do the police have weapons?


There are both security and LEOs. The LEOs are armed and the security is not.
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Posted: 8/11/2012 8:53:48 AM

Originally Posted By Bill2k1:
Originally Posted By TheRX7Project:
I was there yesterday too... did you happen to see a fat guy in an ARFCOM shirt?


Nope, I am not sure I would spot a BFL in the wild however. I have yet to spot one on a car, and I am sure there are like 10 members within 5 miles of me

If I did spot am ARFCOM shirt or BFL, I would be sure to say something to them.


I've only ever spotted one in the wild, and that was at Ray's a few months ago.
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Posted: 8/11/2012 12:14:01 PM
Originally Posted By Oobert:
Originally Posted By T-800:
Originally Posted By JimEb:
I didn't nor am I planning to go, but on the news they showed the entrances and there were big "No Weapons" signs.

That probably answers your question.


Do the police have weapons?


There are both security and LEOs. The LEOs are armed and the security is not.


I was there last night. Yes, the security wore yellow shirts and had walkie-talkies. I think if they see an incident, they're instructed to yell "STOP THAT!! Or, uh... I'll yell STOP THAT again."

The state fair police, state patrol, and MPD that were also on scene tended to stand around in groups of six, facing inward, and talk. Instead of splitting up into groups of two and, you know, like patrolling or something.
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