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Posted: 7/16/2017 5:09:45 PM EDT
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No, using a PO Box won't work for you. I would not advise trying anything to commit fraud here as they are putting effort in to cracking down and the penalties will be much worse.
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:30:29 PM EDT
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No, using a PO Box won't work for you. I would not advise trying anything to commit fraud here as they are putting effort in to cracking down and the penalties will be much worse. |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 2:34:52 AM EDT
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the public are not the ones committing the fraud Give money to an agency that isn't elected or has any reason to deliver jack shit? Spend more than a manned mission to Mars on a transportation network that will be outdated the minute it's finished. Sounds like a great plan to me. 
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Posted: 7/18/2017 12:41:20 PM EDT
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No but they are the dumb fucks who inflicted this upon themselves. Zero sympathy from me when the electorate in King County didn't take the time to sit down and actually think it all through. They're the ones who like in every election get to make decisions for the entire region or state. Give money to an agency that isn't elected or has any reason to deliver jack shit? Spend more than a manned mission to Mars on a transportation network that will be outdated the minute it's finished. Sounds like a great plan to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the public are not the ones committing the fraud Give money to an agency that isn't elected or has any reason to deliver jack shit? Spend more than a manned mission to Mars on a transportation network that will be outdated the minute it's finished. Sounds like a great plan to me. ST2 went way over budget and never actually completed. Prior history being a fairly good predictor of future performance, what makes the voters in King County believe that ST3 will ever be completed on time and on budget? Not only that, but they're planning on running commuter trains over the I90 floating bridge. That has never been done before...with good reason. Because it is patently idiotic to run two 300+ ton commuter trains running in opposite directions at 55+ miles per hour over an inherently unstable structure subject to the constant stresses of tidal forces, currents, wave forces, storms, and wind forces. NO OTHER CITY IN THE WORLD HAS EVER ATTEMPTED SUCH A THING! Not only that, but should a derailment occur on the floating bridge portion, that train isn't stopping until it is 200+ feet down on the bottom. Certain death for anyone riding it. Nobody in their right mind is going to ride that death-trap! I cannot believe that the King County electorate is so incredibly ignorant and gullible to vote for such stupidity. Not only that, but there are plenty of youtube video's of homeless people riding/living/sleeping on transit buses. Many videos of these people and their possessions infested and literally crawling with bedbugs. Who the hell wants to ride public transportation sitting next to these people and their disgusting nastiness? |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 2:24:51 PM EDT
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ST3 may single-handedly make living just outside the 'zone' economically viable versus real estate appreciation in just a few years.... huh...
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Posted: 7/18/2017 6:13:58 PM EDT
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ST3 may single-handedly make living just outside the 'zone' economically viable versus real estate appreciation in just a few years.... huh... The only people able to afford to live there will be millionaires/billionaires and big businesses. Perhaps that's there eventual goal; for the city to be the exclusive playground of the elites and the billionaire boys club of Medina... |
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Posted: 7/18/2017 8:03:20 PM EDT
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I just barely escaped the RTA by being on the west side of the Narrows in Gig Harbor. New tabs for two vehicles the other day, 120. Still too damn high but I've heard of some guys with average vehicles in the RTA getting dinged for a grand or more.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:05:11 PM EDT
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Jesus how bad is ST3 prices? I knew it was going to go up but had no idea by how much.
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Posted: 7/18/2017 9:24:47 PM EDT
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Jesus how bad is ST3 prices? I knew it was going to go up but had no idea by how much. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 4:52:28 PM EDT
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Between ST3 and the new Seattle income tax for FMLA, I'll bet there will be a huge exodus outside of the "zone" after a few years when the Seattle proletariat have figured out what they've done. The only people able to afford to live there will be millionaires/billionaires and big businesses. Perhaps that's there eventual goal; for the city to be the exclusive playground of the elites and the billionaire boys club of Medina... Then they throw ST3 out as a "solution", laughing all the way to the bank. |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:10:53 PM EDT
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It's for the chill'run....
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Posted: 7/20/2017 1:45:29 AM EDT
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It's for the chill'run.... The transit security there is fucking Kabuki theater. Lot of petty shit that gets swept under the rug by Sound Transit and UWPD. Fuck subsidized transportation for youts and chill'run. I've purposely moved beyond the current bus system but given the desire to escape Seattle/King County, SE Pierce County (south of Graham) is going to transform into Covington, Maple Valley, Black Diamond, and Ravensdale real soon. I guarantee it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 2:52:13 AM EDT
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As much as I love Washington state F$#@ Washington state. This state is messed up..
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Posted: 7/21/2017 5:19:10 PM EDT
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As much as I love Washington state F$#@ Washington state. This state is messed up.. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 9:19:04 PM EDT
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I'm wondering how long it will take the state capital (Seattle) to find some crooked way to force these ST3 fees upon the people of the entire state?
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Posted: 7/21/2017 9:23:49 PM EDT
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You can register your car to my house if you want
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:57:51 AM EDT
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I'm wondering how long it will take the state capital (Seattle) to find some crooked way to force these ST3 fees upon the people of the entire state? This is a way to reduce the ST3 FEES. "SPREAD THE JOY OF HELPING THE ENVIORNMENT." LOWER YOUR TAXES (displace them onto everyone else) King sno and Pierce county will make it happen. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 11:17:36 AM EDT
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Bet on it next election cycle. This is a way to reduce the ST3 FEES. "SPREAD THE JOY OF HELPING THE ENVIORNMENT." LOWER YOUR TAXES (displace them onto everyone else) King sno and Pierce county will make it happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm wondering how long it will take the state capital (Seattle) to find some crooked way to force these ST3 fees upon the people of the entire state? This is a way to reduce the ST3 FEES. "SPREAD THE JOY OF HELPING THE ENVIORNMENT." LOWER YOUR TAXES (displace them onto everyone else) King sno and Pierce county will make it happen. 
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Posted: 7/22/2017 12:01:57 PM EDT
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Print some petitions and get to work https://www.voterswantmorechoices.com
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Posted: 8/12/2017 10:41:38 AM EDT
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We have 5 cars amongst 2 licensed drivers. Yeah don't ask.
Two of them are less than 3 years old. I also have a motorcycle that is 3 years old. Between those 3 items right there, we are approaching 90-100 additional dollars PER MONTH taken by these thieves. Poof gone. That's more than any raise I've gotten in the last 10 years and I make pretty decent money for the area. One car and one motorcycle may be going bye bye in the spring. |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 10:46:02 AM EDT
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Better to find an "address" out of the ST3 taxing area.
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Posted: 8/12/2017 10:57:36 AM EDT
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If it were only that easy.
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Posted: 8/12/2017 4:16:55 PM EDT
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Owning property in other states is helpful...
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Posted: 8/12/2017 4:30:44 PM EDT
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FWIW. I just moved to Yakima and my tabs renewal was $68 for a 2015 Escape. Last year it was $100 something IIRC. Glad I moved.
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Posted: 8/12/2017 5:43:18 PM EDT
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FWIW. I just moved to Yakima and my tabs renewal was $68 for a 2015 Escape. Last year it was $100 something IIRC. Glad I moved. |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 11:24:02 PM EDT
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(Yakima) invest in good security lighting an cameras.. |
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Posted: 8/13/2017 11:09:06 AM EDT
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Yeah, we're fourth generation WA but we'll be retiring somewhere else... |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 5:33:42 AM EDT
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my 03 Ram is $130.
my 67 Beetle's reg is expired and will be a collector's vehicle plate next I'm afraid of what the Wrangler Unlimited and the Harley are going to be. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 1:10:05 PM EDT
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I was planning on raising my little one here, have been here for 20 years and it has been home. I have been stead fast about not being forced out. But our future here is a webwork of taxes and illegal " laws" and rampant crime.
voting does not work, I vote all the time. I am so fucking sad about being forced out, even if I could afford to live here I would not pay this shit |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 1:14:33 PM EDT
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I was planning on raising my little one here, have been here for 20 years and it has been home. I have been stead fast about not being forced out. But our future here is a webwork of taxes and illegal " laws" and rampant crime. voting does not work, I vote all the time. I am so fucking sad about being forced out, even if I could afford to live here I would not pay this shit WA did not used to be this way
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Posted: 8/14/2017 6:48:27 PM EDT
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This is what happens when you import millions of socialist foreigners who have no desire to live free. They want the US to be just like the shit holes they came from (looking at you Mexico and India). WA did not used to be this way |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 6:51:54 PM EDT
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Register your vehicles to a family member's house ideally far away from Seattle as possible.
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Posted: 8/19/2017 9:03:37 PM EDT
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This is what happens when you import millions of socialist foreigners who have no desire to live free. They want the US to be just like the shit holes they came from (looking at you California, Mexico and India). WA did not used to be this way |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 1:22:11 PM EDT
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2016 Mustang, 2016 tabs were $88, 2017 tabs were $330  fuck that!
That's headed towards kalifornia tab $$s in the mid 90's. Dads Lincoln town car was $550! |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 2:03:39 PM EDT
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That may be the straw to break our back and push to once and for all divide the state like it should be. I would love a 208 prefix. If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 2:05:56 PM EDT
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This is what happens when you import millions of socialist foreigners who have no desire to live free. They want the US to be just like the shit holes they came from (looking at you Mexico and India). WA did not used to be this way Oh, and if the GOP loses that state-senate race up in Bellevue (giving the Dems unified control), this place will go full retard even faster.... |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 2:13:26 PM EDT
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If 'like it should be', you mean along the Cascades, hell no... If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That may be the straw to break our back and push to once and for all divide the state like it should be. I would love a 208 prefix. If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... |
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Posted: 8/26/2017 1:51:17 AM EDT
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If 'like it should be', you mean along the Cascades, hell no... If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... |
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Posted: 8/27/2017 7:05:29 PM EDT
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You really think all the money in Bellevue, Redmond, Medina, etc. is going to break conservative? lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If 'like it should be', you mean along the Cascades, hell no... If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... Beyond that, once you chop off Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia (and west-of-5 suburbs) and Vancouver, there wouldn't be enough leftists left to make a difference. It would make WA a 'Wisconsin-style' red-state, with a few super-blue cities dominated politically by the votes from their suburbs & the rural/boonies vote. |
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Posted: 8/27/2017 7:08:58 PM EDT
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I know and it sucks! Why would we want those areas? Are they not pretty blue as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That may be the straw to break our back and push to once and for all divide the state like it should be. I would love a 208 prefix. If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... It's all about math: If you cut out the Sea-Tac-Oly metro-area, the remaining liberals won't have enough votes to make a difference. And those of us behind JBLM (which is as Republican an area as you will find in this state: Yelm, etc) or out in the eastern-end of Pierce & King Co (land of 5-acre lots and again, NOT liberal) won't be stuck in a 'state' that votes further left than Cali. |
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Posted: 8/29/2017 6:00:35 PM EDT
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There's starting to be talk about cutting Seattle out of King County to form a "Seattle County". County level people are tired of everything going the way Seattle wants and sucking up all their resources. If the latest $30 car tabs initiative wins out, which I don't see why it wouldn't, it will be interesting to see what happens to ST3.
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Posted: 8/30/2017 4:32:02 PM EDT
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I-5, JBLM & the lake make for a pretty good dividing line between flaming liberals & sane people... It's all about math: If you cut out the Sea-Tac-Oly metro-area, the remaining liberals won't have enough votes to make a difference. And those of us behind JBLM (which is as Republican an area as you will find in this state: Yelm, etc) or out in the eastern-end of Pierce & King Co (land of 5-acre lots and again, NOT liberal) won't be stuck in a 'state' that votes further left than Cali. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That may be the straw to break our back and push to once and for all divide the state like it should be. I would love a 208 prefix. If you mean with I-5 and the center of Lake Washington as the border, that makes more sense (put everything west of the lake/freeway in 'Washington', everything east becomes 'columbia')... Unfortunately barring a civil war (ala W VA), it takes the approval of both the US Congress and the state legislature to do that (divide a state)... It's all about math: If you cut out the Sea-Tac-Oly metro-area, the remaining liberals won't have enough votes to make a difference. And those of us behind JBLM (which is as Republican an area as you will find in this state: Yelm, etc) or out in the eastern-end of Pierce & King Co (land of 5-acre lots and again, NOT liberal) won't be stuck in a 'state' that votes further left than Cali. |
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Posted: 8/30/2017 4:34:35 PM EDT
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There's starting to be talk about cutting Seattle out of King County to form a "Seattle County". County level people are tired of everything going the way Seattle wants and sucking up all their resources. If the latest $30 car tabs initiative wins out, which I don't see why it wouldn't, it will be interesting to see what happens to ST3. |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 12:16:34 AM EDT
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OK, now I'm fucking livid.
Seattle Mayoral candidate Jenny Durkan thinks it's a bright idea to offer a free college education to every Seattle high school graduate. Where's the money going to come from, you ask? Well according to KOMO: According to the plan, potential funding sources would include 2018 Families and Education Levy, sweetened beverage tax revenues or the Puget Sound Taxpayer Accountability Account created by Sound Transit 3. Turns out, it's this.. An appropriatable slush fund with money from ST3, to "provide educational outcomes" for poor kids. The fucking *Sound Transit* bill, already legalized theft by an agency that shouldn't be allowed to tax, ostensibly for light rail, is paying into this shit. Am I the only one that didn't know this? |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 12:39:08 AM EDT
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OK, now I'm fucking livid. Seattle Mayoral candidate Jenny Durkan thinks it's a bright idea to offer a free college education to every Seattle high school graduate. Where's the money going to come from, you ask? Well according to KOMO: If you're like me, you shouted at your car radio WHAT THE FUCK IS THE "Puget Sound Taxpayer Accountability Account"?? Turns out, it's this.. An appropriatable slush fund with money from ST3, to "provide educational outcomes" for poor kids. The fucking *Sound Transit* bill, already legalized theft by an agency that shouldn't be allowed to tax, ostensibly for light rail, is paying into this shit. Am I the only one that didn't know this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
OK, now I'm fucking livid. Seattle Mayoral candidate Jenny Durkan thinks it's a bright idea to offer a free college education to every Seattle high school graduate. Where's the money going to come from, you ask? Well according to KOMO: According to the plan, potential funding sources would include 2018 Families and Education Levy, sweetened beverage tax revenues or the Puget Sound Taxpayer Accountability Account created by Sound Transit 3. Turns out, it's this.. An appropriatable slush fund with money from ST3, to "provide educational outcomes" for poor kids. The fucking *Sound Transit* bill, already legalized theft by an agency that shouldn't be allowed to tax, ostensibly for light rail, is paying into this shit. Am I the only one that didn't know this? 
That is fucked up 
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Posted: 9/1/2017 1:52:14 AM EDT
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Yeah.............It's neat............It's free...........................BUT............It costs $7 million.....................Help me explain...........................???
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Posted: 9/1/2017 10:46:15 AM EDT
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OK, now I'm fucking livid. Seattle Mayoral candidate Jenny Durkan thinks it's a bright idea to offer a free college education to every Seattle high school graduate. Where's the money going to come from, you ask? Well according to KOMO: If you're like me, you shouted at your car radio WHAT THE FUCK IS THE "Puget Sound Taxpayer Accountability Account"?? Turns out, it's this.. An appropriatable slush fund with money from ST3, to "provide educational outcomes" for poor kids. The fucking *Sound Transit* bill, already legalized theft by an agency that shouldn't be allowed to tax, ostensibly for light rail, is paying into this shit. Am I the only one that didn't know this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
OK, now I'm fucking livid. Seattle Mayoral candidate Jenny Durkan thinks it's a bright idea to offer a free college education to every Seattle high school graduate. Where's the money going to come from, you ask? Well according to KOMO: According to the plan, potential funding sources would include 2018 Families and Education Levy, sweetened beverage tax revenues or the Puget Sound Taxpayer Accountability Account created by Sound Transit 3. Turns out, it's this.. An appropriatable slush fund with money from ST3, to "provide educational outcomes" for poor kids. The fucking *Sound Transit* bill, already legalized theft by an agency that shouldn't be allowed to tax, ostensibly for light rail, is paying into this shit. Am I the only one that didn't know this? |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 12:00:46 PM EDT
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Yeah, we're fourth generation WA but we'll be retiring somewhere else... I wanted to retire here, but I just don't see that happening. Between the ST3 scam/thievery and Turd Ferguson constantly pushing his "assault weapons" and high capacity magazine ban...I just don't see the point any more. I was in northern Idaho around the Hayden/Rathdrum/Coeur d'Alene area looking at homes and acreage with a realtor from Pehr Black Real Estate last weekend. I think I am going to start slowly selling my rentals here and buyng in that area. I can get far more house for the money and the property taxes are substantially cheaper. Sure, you can't get as much rent money, but the scale is about the same. The regulations aren't insane like they are here either. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 1:36:20 PM EDT
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How do you find out exactly what MSRP they are using?
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Posted: 9/23/2017 10:41:31 PM EDT
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Prior history being a fairly good predictor of future performance, what makes the voters in King County believe that ST3 will ever be completed on time and on budget? Some honestly don't believe in math, most fervently believe the .gov can print whatever money they want without ill effect, and the rest just don't care. |
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