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This is something difficult for two reasons, one, there's no money or tolerance for disproving liberal policy. Even if you prove it beyond any doubt, you'll just be called a "denier" or worse. See any one who ever dared to show the truth about global warming. Second, humans are not as simple minded as animals. Being resourceful little bastards, we can tolerate all kinds of conditions...that doesn't mean they're optimal or fullfilling. We've proven that people can live, literally, in tiny prison cells, for decades on end. But it's that REALLY living? I'd suggest for the majority, no. I've lived the urban life in downtown Portland. It's hideous...and were talking about a city regularly held up as a "destination" for young libs. If that's the utopia, we're all doomed. Beyond basic needs, I work primarily so that some glorious day I can be free of the liberal city shit show. There's no freedom in cities, none of them. They are the mother of all HOAs, but it's government agents and the tax man, instead of bored old ladies, that are the source of the problem. I hear all this talk of efficiency, and yet $1000+ hoa fees and million dollar houses and $50,000 parking spots, and crazy high property taxes etc doesn't sound efficient, at all. Cities SHOULD be dirt cheap to live in, because that is the only way that would make the value proposition logical.

My advice to anyone trying to build an urban utopia: do everything in your power to decrease costs, and maximize personal responsibility. Otherwise you would up with massive waste, like the Portland Tram...an urban cluster F that cost 4x the initial budget estimates and is used almost entirelyby rich ohsu employees who can afford to live in the luxury condo towers on the waterfront and a few tourists. Good way to spend $57,000,000 of someone else's money.

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