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Posted: 2/8/2016 3:36:42 AM EDT
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http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/judge-affirms-kitsap-rifle-and-revolver-club-restrictions-2b0b3ff5-8e41-2b64-e053-0100007fd9b9-367887931.html This time, she was called on to address a Washington State Court of Appeals ruling, which said she could not revoke the club's nonconforming-use rights — the so-called "grandfathered" status — of the gun club's property, as she did before. As a result, Serko was forced to allow the gun range to operate as it has historically, although she could prohibit any "expanded" uses. She has a a strange definition of what constitutes "expanded uses". Foster said the club is concerned that the order approved Friday could be interpreted to prohibit the shooting of nearly every handgun as well as the most commonly used rifle at the range. A limit of .30 caliber without additional language could rule out almost any pistol larger than .22-caliber and exclude the common .30-06 (pronounced "thirty-aught-six") rifle.
Her original finding, based on evidence provided by the county, was that the club had not been involved historically in all the activities that club officials claimed. As a result, those activities would not be allowed as nonconforming uses and would need a new permit to continue. So someone tells the judge that the KRRC hasn't historically used large caliber firearms, exploding targets and participated in action shooting and the judge just believes it? Randy They need to move for change of venue. At this point, no matter what is said or done, that judge is just going to keep fucking them like a porn star getting paid by the hour. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 10:43:43 AM EDT
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Am I reading that correctly that pretty much nothing but a .22 pistol can be shot and few rifles? how is it ok to shoot a 7mm mag but not a .380 pistol? If you renamed a IDPA event as a training course and not a competition would it be legal? Man this sucks.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 1:37:46 PM EDT
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I wasn't in court, but it may be the case that there simply wasn't any testimony to prove to the judge that the disputed uses of the range actually have happened in the past. Without testimony, or other "proof", the judge is pretty much bound to come to the decision that there is no verification of historical uses of larger calibers.
It sure sounds like a change of venue would be warranted. I would think it pretty easy to show that the judge has historically ruled against the club on almost every occasion. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 3:25:17 PM EDT
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The judge and the county are very happy to see the case tried in Serko's court; it isn't going anywhere.
Serko's original 2012 ruling restricted the club to rifles 30 caliber and under; no limit on handguns. The appeals court commissioner (Schmidt) allowed the KRRC unrestricted calibers except for cannons pending appeal. It's possible that the reporter writing this story got confused with rifles and firearms. I find it hard to believe that anyone thinks there were no guns greater than 30 caliber historically used at the KRRC in the past. Randy |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 4:40:26 PM EDT
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did they ever have a black powder shoot at KRRC? It would be hard to state that many BP guns were less than .36 cal.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:43:37 PM EDT
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Not sure. But I always just assumed that if the range didn't have any caliber restrictions then it should be assumed that guns larger than 30 caliber were in common use.
Randy |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 10:55:58 AM EDT
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considering that the majority of hunting rifles are over 30 cal I would almost guarantee that is the case.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:50:19 AM EDT
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So nobody has ever fired a 50bmg or 458 socom at that range ever? I think we need a new judge.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 2:32:58 PM EDT
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My name came up at the original trial as a person who shot his 50 bmg on the range.
The point the county was making is that the club got louder and expanded in size and loudness (or so they claim) since 1992. Never mind that more people continued to move in close and the county required that the public have access to the range after the land was sold by the county to the club. Randy |
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