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Posted: 3/6/2016 6:18:45 PM EDT
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Yup, takes effect 90 days after end of session. Thanks for all your work with this and for keeping us Up to date. |
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Posted: 3/6/2016 11:22:02 PM EDT
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When are you guys thinking you're gonna start submitting form 1's again.
I think the wait is like 5-6 months now. |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 1:12:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When are you guys thinking you're gonna start submitting form 1's again. I think the wait is like 5-6 months now. |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 1:48:31 PM EDT
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When are you guys thinking you're gonna start submitting form 1's again. I think the wait is like 5-6 months now. I am a little afraid to submit prior to the bill actually becoming law, I'm worried that if denied I would find out after the July 41F implementation. I know a bunch of guys submitted early last time and it worked out just fine though. given the efile wait time was only about 1.5 months back then -Mike |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 2:06:56 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly. There were people that submitted their forms before the law went into effect last time and AFAIK none of them got denied.... but better safe than sorry with 41F looming. The wait will prolly be over a year, but it's better than getting denied and missing the boat.
In any event, when is the final Senate vote? Still one more, correct? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 3:08:16 PM EDT
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In any event, when is the final Senate vote? Still one more, correct? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Brian hasn't seen any of the other bill edit votes go through, including 6165. No set schedule for those but he expects it to be soon. |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:15:11 PM EDT
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Troubling. Hopefully it happens soon. As soon as it is signed, it'll be time to start stockpiling guns I wanna SBR before the deadline...
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:28:46 PM EDT
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looks like it just got confirmed by the senate!
IN THE SENATE Mar 7 Senate concurred in House amendments. Passed final passage; yeas, 44; nays, 4; absent, 0; excused, 1. |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:29:41 PM EDT
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Is it off to Inslee now?
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:40:30 PM EDT
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Interesting, McCoy voted yes this time. He was a no vote last month in the Senate.
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:41:33 PM EDT
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It gets rubber stamped by the senate president/house speaker first, but yeah that's basically the final major step remaining as I understand it. :)
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Posted: 3/7/2016 8:57:31 PM EDT
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I was just driving home and heard Inslee on the radio say he will VETO every bill passed this session if the house doesn't pass a budget by Thursday.
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Posted: 3/7/2016 9:47:40 PM EDT
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I was just driving home and heard Inslee on the radio say he will VETO every bill passed this session if the house doesn't pass a budget by Thursday. Seems familiar, so you are saying the Bill is in trouble 
ETA did a search (and welcome to the site): OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — Gov. Jay Inslee has threatened to veto lawmakers’ bills unless they get a supplemental budget to him by Thursday, the final day of the 60-day legislative session. At a news conference Monday, Inslee said that while negotiations between the Democratic-led House and Republican-led Senate are continuing, lawmakers “need to pick up that pace substantially.” Inslee said that so far 35 bills have passed the Legislature and are awaiting his signature, and that many more are expected to make their way to his desk. Bills that are delivered to Inslee more than five days before the Legislature adjourns have five days to be acted on; bills delivered fewer than five days before adjournment have 20 days to be acted on. If the governor takes no action, the bills automatically become law. But Inslee said the veto threat is needed to prod action. |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 10:45:01 PM EDT
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Sweet jebus. If we get foiled because some idiots in Olympia can't do their primary job....
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Posted: 3/7/2016 11:06:09 PM EDT
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Sweet jebus. If we get foiled because some idiots in Olympia can't do their primary job.... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No shit, what a bunch of clowns. My blood pressure doesn't need this. I'm getting a Scorpion for my b-day, and had grand plans of e-filing in the small window before 41p. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks to all who worked on this, it's much appreciated! 
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Posted: 3/7/2016 11:15:18 PM EDT
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Foot stomping. Nothing more.
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Posted: 3/8/2016 12:45:17 AM EDT
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I hope you're right Dawg. Fingers crossed, knock on wood, and rub the lucky rabbits foot!!!
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Posted: 3/8/2016 1:30:24 AM EDT
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Foot stomping. Nothing more. They are hellbent on increasing taxes and apparently there are even some talks about pushing an income tax in WA. Of course, one of the excuses is "the children" (education, blah, blah...). And that Inslee is one pushing it. So, can the gangsters trying for the tax increases get anything by holding other bills hostage? |
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Posted: 3/8/2016 2:16:47 AM EDT
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I'm not going to guess on every single unknown out there.
Go grab your tinfoil and invest in Alcoa if you wish to. |
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Posted: 3/8/2016 2:30:19 AM EDT
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Aluminum foil. Aluminum!!!!! If you're British, "aluminium foil" would also be correct? Sorry, pet peeve...
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Posted: 3/8/2016 3:00:46 PM EDT
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F**k income tax!
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Posted: 3/8/2016 3:53:30 PM EDT
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I earn all my income in OR anyway. Already taxed!
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Posted: 3/8/2016 4:00:52 PM EDT
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I was just driving home and heard Inslee on the radio say he will VETO every bill passed this session if the house doesn't pass a budget by Thursday. Can he veto anything that passed with such a large margin? 
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Posted: 3/8/2016 5:32:26 PM EDT
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Can he veto anything that passed with such a large margin? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was just driving home and heard Inslee on the radio say he will VETO every bill passed this session if the house doesn't pass a budget by Thursday. Can he veto anything that passed with such a large margin? He can veto any bill he wants, even if it is passed unanimously. Then it is up to the legislature to override it. The legislature's last day in regular session is March 10th. Were he to veto it after that day, the legislature would have to reconvene under a special session to override any vetoes by a 2/3rds majority in both houses, which would be pretty much unheard of. |
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Posted: 3/8/2016 5:49:56 PM EDT
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He can veto any bill he wants, even if it is passed unanimously. Then it is up to the legislature to override it. The legislature's last day in regular session is March 10th. Were he to veto it after that day, the legislature would have to reconvene under a special session to override any vetoes by a 2/3rds majority in both houses, which would be pretty much unheard of. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was just driving home and heard Inslee on the radio say he will VETO every bill passed this session if the house doesn't pass a budget by Thursday. Can he veto anything that passed with such a large margin? He can veto any bill he wants, even if it is passed unanimously. Then it is up to the legislature to override it. The legislature's last day in regular session is March 10th. Were he to veto it after that day, the legislature would have to reconvene under a special session to override any vetoes by a 2/3rds majority in both houses, which would be pretty much unheard of. Thanks for clearing that up. Fuck this sucks 
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Posted: 3/8/2016 6:08:43 PM EDT
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If it comes to that, we're probably hosed. We got great majority votes for this bill, but let's face it, for the vast majority of the legislature this is pretty low priority. If the gov vetoes "everything" due to this budget standoff, the house/Senate will be scrambling to save what is most important to them... and it won't be an SBR fix bill. No, this bill needs to be signed, or not, by the Governor. A veto if almost certainly a loss for the good guys.
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Posted: 3/8/2016 9:01:35 PM EDT
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F**k income tax! No need to use the * It's okay to say fuck. |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 12:13:37 AM EDT
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Senate president has signed off on the bill.
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Posted: 3/9/2016 9:51:45 AM EDT
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Senate president has signed off on the bill. Good news. |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 2:06:11 PM EDT
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Just one more signature to go!! Cmon Inslee! You can doooooo iiiiiit!
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Posted: 3/9/2016 2:10:58 PM EDT
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Actually, speaker of the house needs to sign as well, but that is more like a rubber stamp.
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Posted: 3/9/2016 2:27:44 PM EDT
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Yup, takes effect 90 days after end of session. Do you know what the date the last day of session is? |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 2:46:39 PM EDT
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March 10 I believe.
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Posted: 3/9/2016 5:42:55 PM EDT
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tomorrow?
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Posted: 3/9/2016 6:17:05 PM EDT
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Actually, speaker of the house needs to sign as well, but that is more like a rubber stamp. good to know. After the SotH signs it, will it officially be 'on the governor's desk'? When does the "veto it or it becomes law" clock start ticking? 90 days eh? Me thinks on June 8th the eForms site is gonna be BUSY. 
I'll do at least 5...maybe more... |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 6:53:31 PM EDT
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Speak signed. Bill was officially delivered to the governor today.
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Posted: 3/9/2016 7:16:13 PM EDT
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Speak signed. Bill was officially delivered to the governor today. Bastard, stealing my thunder.
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Posted: 3/9/2016 7:18:03 PM EDT
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When does the "veto it or it becomes law" clock start ticking? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actually, speaker of the house needs to sign as well, but that is more like a rubber stamp. When does the "veto it or it becomes law" clock start ticking? 20 days after deliver of the bill. March 29th, give or take a day.. |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 11:57:59 PM EDT
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Does this sound correct?
If everything goes well the new Washington State SBR law goes into effect June 8, 2016 ATF 41-P goes into effect July 13, 2016 So we have a 5 week window to get our eForms filed before we have to deal with 41-p? |
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Posted: 3/10/2016 12:15:20 AM EDT
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Does this sound correct? If everything goes well the new Washington State SBR law goes into effect June 8, 2016 ATF 41-P goes into effect July 13, 2016 So we have a 5 week window to get our eForms filed before we have to deal with 41-p? I'd say the window opens as soon as Inslee signs it or it passes the "no action" period. With a 5 month wait currently, and it only getting longer as 41p nears, ATF won't even touch your submission till well after June 8th. |
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Posted: 3/10/2016 3:46:57 AM EDT
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A month is plenty of time to submit... I personally wouldn't do it early. What if they get a wild hair and deny it, on July 14th...
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Posted: 3/11/2016 12:50:32 AM EDT
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They just said on the radio that the budget will not be submitted on time. I guess we will see if the Governor actually keeps his word and vetoes all the bills on his desk.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 1:04:48 AM EDT
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double suckage...even if he doesn't veto (yet), this means the session will end later, right? That shrinks our window a bit. If those SOBs in Olympia muck this up it's going to be SUCH a tease. wtf.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 1:32:21 AM EDT
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he wont do it.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 1:33:29 AM EDT
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Not sure why 41f is such a concern to so many. Before 41f = trust. After = individual.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 2:20:09 AM EDT
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No more efile is the reason I assume.
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Posted: 3/11/2016 2:36:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure why 41f is such a concern to so many. Before 41f = trust. After = individual. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 2:38:03 AM EDT
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Not sure why 41f is such a concern to so many. Before 41f = trust. After = individual. individual sucks This state banned any in state transfer of a machine gun owned by an individual (not individuals like family on a trust) unless a transfer/sale to out of state so if you do have one you cant even pass it down to family in WA as it would be a transfer, a trust would be the better way to go if they some day decided to ban some of the tools like Cans and SBR's again as the family on the trust can keep it without any transfer or sale. |
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Posted: 3/11/2016 2:40:59 AM EDT
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on king5 they just had the gov on, and he said he vetod 20 something and signed 10. ugh. seems like a pretty dick move. "some of you didn't do your jobs, so i'm going to throw away everyone's work"
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Posted: 3/11/2016 2:57:49 AM EDT
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on king5 they just had the gov on, and he said he vetod 20 something and signed 10. ugh. seems like a pretty dick move. "some of you didn't do your jobs, so i'm going to throw away everyone's work" He sure didn't waste any time on that. Is there a list on the wa.gov site somewhere saying which were vetoed? |
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