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Posted: 4/3/2016 2:21:03 PM EDT
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Great work! Thanks for all your effort here over the last few months Dawgfish!!!
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Posted: 4/3/2016 4:36:18 PM EDT
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Yeah, I wouldn't tempt fate with prior-to-6/9 submissions, especially if you're doing pre-41F trust submissions. Last thing you want to do is get screwed and have to resubmit after 41F.
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Posted: 4/3/2016 10:32:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, I wouldn't tempt fate with prior-to-6/9 submissions, especially if you're doing pre-41F trust submissions. Last thing you want to do is get screwed and have to resubmit after 41F. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yup. That is exactly the issue. They have one state changing process and a few weeks later the entire nation is changing process. Don't be a dick. |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 12:21:58 AM EDT
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I also wanted to say a HUGE THANK YOU for all of the effort that went into this. So grateful.
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Posted: 4/6/2016 3:36:02 AM EDT
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I also wanted to say a HUGE THANK YOU for all of the effort that went into this. So grateful.  Hear hear!
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Posted: 4/6/2016 1:10:33 PM EDT
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Ordering an M92 pap today, and a few AR lowers.
Can't find anything else I need to sbr. I was going to do a cz evo, but I can't push myself to pull the trigger on it. May have to wait tell post 41f and paper form it. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 2:28:40 PM EDT
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Ok, here's another option for ya'll. How about a Vz61, or the original Skorpion. Relatively inexpensive at around $600 and pretty unique IMO. Might be nice to combine old school with new since a lot of you have the current EVO.
Back to the original topic at hand. Thanks Dawg and everyone here and elsewhere who supported this effort!!! |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 2:37:50 PM EDT
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Ordering an M92 pap today, and a few AR lowers. Can't find anything else I need to sbr. I was going to do a cz evo, but I can't push myself to pull the trigger on it. May have to wait tell post 41f and paper form it. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what else to SBR either. I posted in the armory/SBR subforum about it. People had some good ideas, but I'm not sure I'm gonna get any more in the near term. I am definitely trying to "beat 41F", and I'll have 3-4 SBRs, a DD, and a couple of suppressors submitted in process before the deadline. I'm considering a CZ Bren pistol...and a second M92 PAP...both of which are a bit redundant (already have one SBR'd M92, and will have 3 SBR'd ARs) so I dunno if I'm gonna sink the $ into either (or both) yet... |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 4:58:49 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what else to SBR either. I posted in the armory/SBR subforum about it. People had some good ideas, but I'm not sure I'm gonna get any more in the near term. I am definitely trying to "beat 41F", and I'll have 3-4 SBRs, a DD, and a couple of suppressors submitted in process before the deadline. I'm considering a CZ Bren pistol...and a second M92 PAP...both of which are a bit redundant (already have one SBR'd M92, and will have 3 SBR'd ARs) so I dunno if I'm gonna sink the $ into either (or both) yet... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ordering an M92 pap today, and a few AR lowers. Can't find anything else I need to sbr. I was going to do a cz evo, but I can't push myself to pull the trigger on it. May have to wait tell post 41f and paper form it. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what else to SBR either. I posted in the armory/SBR subforum about it. People had some good ideas, but I'm not sure I'm gonna get any more in the near term. I am definitely trying to "beat 41F", and I'll have 3-4 SBRs, a DD, and a couple of suppressors submitted in process before the deadline. I'm considering a CZ Bren pistol...and a second M92 PAP...both of which are a bit redundant (already have one SBR'd M92, and will have 3 SBR'd ARs) so I dunno if I'm gonna sink the $ into either (or both) yet... MPX or MCX Glock (or any pistol really, that fits in those "chassis" things) MAC/Cobray UZI P90 10/22 (easiest is to use a charger takedown) HK MP5/93/91 |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 6:32:33 PM EDT
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MPX or MCX: have a scorpion, so the mpx seems redundant... MCX could be good though...
Glock: have one SBRd already... MAC/Cobray: hmmm, maybe.,. UZI: thought about this one. I like the history of it, but with a scorpion already in the arsenal it to seems redundant... P90: I'm gonna build a 90/22 SBR instead... not interested in 5.7x28, but love the design of the p90... 10/22 (easiest is to use a charger takedown): see above... HK MP5/93/91: an mp5 clone is definitely a possibility. Wish they weren't sooo spendy... but then again, at this point what isn't expensive? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 7:18:43 PM EDT
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I've got a couple of ARs I want to SBR.
And a PS90. And eventually a MP5 clone. And a Thompson M1 clone. I think it's going to be just the ARs and PS90 for the period pre-41F though. 
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Posted: 4/7/2016 3:11:20 AM EDT
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I'm doing a Thompson and a mares leg, in addition to my 5 AR's, MP5, and a SCAR16
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Posted: 4/7/2016 10:03:42 AM EDT
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So no trust/no CLEO sign off SBR's now...all we have to do is our Form 1's at the appropriate time? I've been busy with life and haven't followed anything in a while, so I'm totally lost. Is it the same for suppressors now too?
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Posted: 4/7/2016 11:49:54 AM EDT
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So no trust/no CLEO sign off SBR's now...all we have to do is our Form 1's at the appropriate time? I've been busy with life and haven't followed anything in a while, so I'm totally lost. Is it the same for suppressors now too?
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Posted: 4/7/2016 11:57:15 AM EDT
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MPX or MCX: have a scorpion, so the mpx seems redundant... MCX could be good though... Glock: have one SBRd already... MAC/Cobray: hmmm, maybe.,. UZI: thought about this one. I like the history of it, but with a scorpion already in the arsenal it to seems redundant... P90: I'm gonna build a 90/22 SBR instead... not interested in 5.7x28, but love the design of the p90... 10/22 (easiest is to use a charger takedown): see above... HK MP5/93/91: an mp5 clone is definitely a possibility. Wish they weren't sooo spendy... but then again, at this point what isn't expensive? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile My mp5 is the most enjoyable gun to shoot, the 53 and 51p are loud and awesome but I'd be hard pressed to pick them or any others over an mp5. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 2:07:13 PM EDT
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HK MP5/93/91: an mp5 clone is definitely a possibility. Wish they weren't sooo spendy... but then again, at this point what isn't expensive? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 9MM AR isn't too spendy. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 3:26:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:My mp5 is the most enjoyable gun to shoot, the 53 and 51p are loud and awesome but I'd be hard pressed to pick them or any others over an mp5. You've shot a lot of cool toys Scorp, have you shot the Bren 805 yet? I can get one of those for under $1500. Zenith MP5 clone is closer to $1700. As much as I'm a product of the 1980s and love MP5s i just dunno if I can pull the trigger on buying a clone at that kinda price when I already have multiple other 9mm sub gun options in the safe. 
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Posted: 4/7/2016 4:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So no trust/no CLEO sign off SBR's now...all we have to do is our Form 1's at the appropriate time? I've been busy with life and haven't followed anything in a while, so I'm totally lost. Is it the same for suppressors now too? Correct Thank you Sir! Time to start plotting out my purchases. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 10:29:45 AM EDT
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You've shot a lot of cool toys Scorp, have you shot the Bren 805 yet? I can get one of those for under $1500. Zenith MP5 clone is closer to $1700. As much as I'm a product of the 1980s and love MP5s i just dunno if I can pull the trigger on buying a clone at that kinda price when I already have multiple other 9mm sub gun options in the safe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:My mp5 is the most enjoyable gun to shoot, the 53 and 51p are loud and awesome but I'd be hard pressed to pick them or any others over an mp5. You've shot a lot of cool toys Scorp, have you shot the Bren 805 yet? I can get one of those for under $1500. Zenith MP5 clone is closer to $1700. As much as I'm a product of the 1980s and love MP5s i just dunno if I can pull the trigger on buying a clone at that kinda price when I already have multiple other 9mm sub gun options in the safe. I havent but I think they are pretty cool, with new stock options coming I think it will be a decent gun. I have a couple zeniths in the safe waiting on form 4's you can check out, I'm expecting a delivery today for you. If we go shoot it I can bring some other stuff too. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 11:06:14 AM EDT
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I havent but I think they are pretty cool, with new stock options coming I think it will be a decent gun. I have a couple zeniths in the safe waiting on form 4's you can check out, I'm expecting a delivery today for you. If we go shoot it I can bring some other stuff too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted:My mp5 is the most enjoyable gun to shoot, the 53 and 51p are loud and awesome but I'd be hard pressed to pick them or any others over an mp5. You've shot a lot of cool toys Scorp, have you shot the Bren 805 yet? I can get one of those for under $1500. Zenith MP5 clone is closer to $1700. As much as I'm a product of the 1980s and love MP5s i just dunno if I can pull the trigger on buying a clone at that kinda price when I already have multiple other 9mm sub gun options in the safe. I havent but I think they are pretty cool, with new stock options coming I think it will be a decent gun. I have a couple zeniths in the safe waiting on form 4's you can check out, I'm expecting a delivery today for you. If we go shoot it I can bring some other stuff too. Is there some progress on the LMT front you haven't told me about? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 1:09:32 PM EDT
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I've pretty much read this thread from the beginning, and have probably forgotten much of it throughout the process.
Question: Did the necessity to re write and pass this bill affect doing a Form 1 suppressor here in Washington? Has anyone successfully e-filed a suppressor form 1 and had it go all the way through to a stamp in the last year or so? Thanks in advance for helping me to not wade through all 23 pages. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 1:59:02 PM EDT
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No and yes. I had two F1 cans approved in the last couple of months.
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Posted: 4/11/2016 8:27:59 PM EDT
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41F goes into effect July 13, 6165 is effective June 6? So, if I want to sbr a scorpion, do I buy the pistol now and submit a form 1 in June? Filing before July 13 on my trust will still be pre 41F right?
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Posted: 4/11/2016 8:30:39 PM EDT
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Yes is the answer to all of those questions...but it's June 9, not 6.
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Posted: 4/11/2016 8:38:45 PM EDT
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Yes is the answer to all of those questions...but it's June 9, not 6. Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/12/2016 12:53:32 AM EDT
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You're very welcome. SBRs for everyone!!!
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Posted: 4/12/2016 1:48:18 PM EDT
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Here we go, Sig MPX ordered...
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Posted: 4/12/2016 3:21:53 PM EDT
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Big thanks to everyone who worked hard to getnthis thru!
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Posted: 4/13/2016 12:59:10 AM EDT
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Here we go, Sig MPX ordered... Rainier Arms had 3 factory ones on their website earlier today.... |
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Posted: 4/13/2016 1:53:44 AM EDT
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Rainier Arms had 3 factory ones on their website earlier today.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here we go, Sig MPX ordered... Rainier Arms had 3 factory ones on their website earlier today.... They seem to be selling SBRs fast. They had the SLR107-UR SBR in their email today, and it was sold out by the time I took a look at the site. |
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Posted: 4/13/2016 11:59:43 AM EDT
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They seem to be selling SBRs fast. They had the SLR107-UR SBR in their email today, and it was sold out by the time I took a look at the site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here we go, Sig MPX ordered... Rainier Arms had 3 factory ones on their website earlier today.... They seem to be selling SBRs fast. They had the SLR107-UR SBR in their email today, and it was sold out by the time I took a look at the site. With 41F looming, everything NFA is selling fast.... |
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Posted: 4/13/2016 1:14:46 PM EDT
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Welp. Buying a Scorpion.
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Posted: 4/13/2016 3:35:23 PM EDT
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Scorpion is awesome.
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Posted: 4/13/2016 5:48:44 PM EDT
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Data is off to the powers that be in Washington State and in WV.
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Posted: 4/13/2016 8:35:07 PM EDT
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Data is off to the powers that be in Washington State and in WV. Awesome. Is there any kind of 2-way comm associated with this? Meaning, will there be confirmation from the land of the examiners that "yes, we're aware of the law and will approve forms once it's in effect"??? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 3:51:07 AM EDT
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I'll leave that part to Brian Blake. He sent the data that was received directly from the Governors office. That should be better than some guy with a Hotmail email address. That should also open up a vetted two way communication between the powers that be and the Washington state legislator who ran the legislation.
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Posted: 4/14/2016 12:19:32 PM EDT
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I'll leave that part to Brian Blake. He sent the data that was received directly from the Governors office. That should be better than some guy with a Hotmail email address. That should also open up a vetted two way communication between the powers that be and the Washington state legislator who ran the legislation. Good to hear. Thanks! You'll have to let us know when he's up for re-election (this year?). I'm sure some folks here wouldn't mind supporting him. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 4:01:03 PM EDT
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Gonna do a Draco, Scorpion and at least 2 AR lowers.
Hope to get my Bulgarian Krink back soon. Everyone on point thank you, thank you, THANK YOU 
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Posted: 4/14/2016 5:51:52 PM EDT
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I'll leave that part to Brian Blake. He sent the data that was received directly from the Governors office. That should be better than some guy with a Hotmail email address. That should also open up a vetted two way communication between the powers that be and the Washington state legislator who ran the legislation. Fantastic. With 41F looming, this last step was pretty important so I'm glad we've crossed the finish line. Bring on 06/09/16! I'm going to do 2 ARs, a scorpion, and a M92 PAP, minimum. Maybe a Bren 805 also... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 7:43:23 PM EDT
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You'll have to let us know when he's up for re-election (this year?). I'm sure some folks here wouldn't mind supporting him. Amen. Blake has my vote. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:00:52 PM EDT
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Fantastic. With 41F looming, this last step was pretty important so I'm glad we've crossed the finish line. Bring on 06/09/16! I'm going to do 2 ARs, a scorpion, and a M92 PAP, minimum. Maybe a Bren 805 also... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll leave that part to Brian Blake. He sent the data that was received directly from the Governors office. That should be better than some guy with a Hotmail email address. That should also open up a vetted two way communication between the powers that be and the Washington state legislator who ran the legislation. Fantastic. With 41F looming, this last step was pretty important so I'm glad we've crossed the finish line. Bring on 06/09/16! I'm going to do 2 ARs, a scorpion, and a M92 PAP, minimum. Maybe a Bren 805 also... I'm tempted by that Bren as well. It's really, and seems like a rifle version would be fun. |
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:44:02 PM EDT
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I wish the msrp was a little lower, but they can be found online for just under $1500. Not outrageous for a piston / side charging SBR candidate.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 10:00:24 PM EDT
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Scorpion is awesome. I ended up with two. Guess I'll be dual-wielding. 
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:19:47 PM EDT
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Alright guys, we are good to go starting June 9th!
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:23:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWOOHOO!!! |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:24:35 PM EDT
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Fandamntastic!
51 days is a lot easier wait than the normal wait time for a Form 1. I can do that easy. After tat the real wait begins. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 3:37:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2016 8:59:39 PM EDT
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Thank you!
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Posted: 4/20/2016 3:50:50 AM EDT
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Fawkin kick ass. w00t!
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Posted: 4/20/2016 5:21:24 PM EDT
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So... just want to confirm. If i submit my form 1 with trust right not for building SBR it will not be denied by ATF?
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