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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:32:58 PM EDT
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Efile Form 1
Submitted: 07/06/2016 Control/permit #: 201XXXXXXX Approved 04/19/2017 287 days 9.4 months |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 2:20:36 PM EDT
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man, the # of applications pre-41F must have been craaaazy with how slowly the approvals are advancing relative to the submission date!
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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:07:14 PM EDT
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man, the # of applications pre-41F must have been craaaazy with how slowly the approvals are advancing relative to the submission date! |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 3:22:44 PM EDT
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The examiner I spoke with on Monday she said that the volume they have is actually increasing as they work towards the cutoff. She said one they start on the post 41F's they should go somewhat quicker as the volume just is t what it used to be especially on transfers. She wasn't sure how the new forms were going to work as they changed them some, but nothing major. I think allot of people are waiting to see what happens with the safe hearing act, and others just refuse the wait times so their taking a wait and see how it shakes out. I'm thinking of doing a couple more here in the next few week because I think if the safe hearing act passes, it will hell to get a suppressor for quite while, and sure it's a $200.00 gamble, but I don't think the wait will be that bad either, and if it does pass before it's approved I would or should get my stamp tax money back anyway. Although I was done Pre-41f, my RPR finally came in and my saker 762 seems way too heavy to put on it, seems like it needs a dedicated light weight can. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:47:47 PM EDT
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I doubt I'll buy any more cans...I primarily want the HPA to pass so that the silencer addicts will stop clogging the system and making SBR/DD approvals take 6+ months.
 If they kept the same level of staffing with examiners and passed HPA, the rest of the stuff would prolly see 30 day approvals. At least until attrition / budget cuts reduced the staff.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:54:45 PM EDT
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Just submitted 3 form 1s. Let's see how long it takes with the new process. I hope things move quickly once they get through the backlog of 41F stuff, things will move quickly. Time will tell.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 7:50:16 PM EDT
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I'm currently getting back Form 4s submitted in June 2016. Also, Form 4s are taking about 2 months to go pending. The latest Form 4s that went pending were submitted earlier this year in late January.
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Posted: 3/30/2017 8:40:51 PM EDT
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Yea, I agree now is the time, I want a Rugged Obsidian and Surge. Thinking about a Allen to go with my 12th Model. I'm still wanting a 203, but I think I've got some time there, the suppressors are going to a little harder if the HPA passes or the wait times go way down, either way I think their going to be harder to get then the 203?
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Posted: 4/6/2017 11:12:36 PM EDT
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Question. I am working on a new form 1 for a CZ scorpion. For the CLEO notification do I send that to the Pierce county sheriff myself or does the ATF do it?
Do I just bundle everything and send it along or split it up? Also, What address do I put for the pierce county sheriff? Headquarters? local office? |
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Posted: 4/6/2017 11:36:50 PM EDT
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Send it to the guy in charge of state police. You send it, not ATF. Not sure what you mean by bundle / split...?
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Posted: 4/7/2017 11:54:55 AM EDT
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Finally got the email I've been waiting on!
Form 1 E-file SBR #20163160XX Submitted: 6/30/16 Approved: 4/7/17 281 days 
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Posted: 4/7/2017 2:31:35 PM EDT
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Send it to the guy in charge of state police. You send it, not ATF. Not sure what you mean by bundle / split...? |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 2:49:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Okay. name and address of where to send it? I am having trouble finding it. http://www.wsp.wa.gov/about/docs/batiste.pdf the name/address on the top of that doc are both current. :) |
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Posted: 4/7/2017 4:00:43 PM EDT
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very first google hit had a link to this pdf... http://www.wsp.wa.gov/about/docs/batiste.pdf the name/address on the top of that doc are both current. :) Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:Okay. name and address of where to send it? I am having trouble finding it. http://www.wsp.wa.gov/about/docs/batiste.pdf the name/address on the top of that doc are both current. :) |
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Posted: 4/8/2017 7:02:47 PM EDT
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Trust
Form 1 (5) old school paper and mail. Mailed July 9 Check cashed July 11th Stamps in my possession April 8th Still waiting on a form 4 sent the same time |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 10:40:48 AM EDT
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New form 1's do not have to be printed on both sides of paper? true?
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Posted: 4/9/2017 11:21:57 PM EDT
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Trust Form 1 (5) old school paper and mail. Mailed July 9 Check cashed July 11th Stamps in my possession April 8th Still waiting on a form 4 sent the same time Rob |
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Posted: 4/9/2017 11:45:55 PM EDT
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New form 1's do not have to be printed on both sides of paper? true? |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 9:53:37 AM EDT
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WHAT??? My eForm w/ Trust was submitted on 7/8 so it SHOULD have been ahead of you by at least 3 days. The ATF sucks. Happy for you. The ATF can suck a golf ball through 30 feet of garden hose. Rob Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trust Form 1 (5) old school paper and mail. Mailed July 9 Check cashed July 11th Stamps in my possession April 8th Still waiting on a form 4 sent the same time Rob |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 10:24:43 AM EDT
[#20]
It looks like they are trying to improve it, can't get any worse right!?
ATF Announces NFA Branch Reorganization |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:05:13 PM EDT
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I received my two 6/11/16 Eform 1 submissions back on Friday 1/20/17. Now just waiting on a Paper Form 4 SBR, check cashed 6/27/16 and another Eform 1 from 7/7/16. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 5:44:09 PM EDT
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I finally got back my last Form 1 from the big 41P rush today,
Filed 7/4/16 Approved 4/24/17 Edit: It was an Eform on a trust btw |
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Posted: 5/2/2017 11:43:03 AM EDT
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17 June to 1 May
312 days Paper Form 1 |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 4:22:52 PM EDT
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Any recent approvals for local folks? In the SBR forum I have now seen some approvals with control numbers HIGHER than my 327,5xx from 7/8. Any day now.
Rob |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 4:25:26 PM EDT
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Any recent approvals for local folks? In the SBR forum I have now seen some approvals with control numbers HIGHER than my 327,5xx from 7/8. Any day now.
Rob 7/11 333,xxx |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 4:49:23 PM EDT
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17 June to 1 May 312 days Paper Form 1
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Posted: 5/5/2017 1:03:40 AM EDT
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Still waiting on my 7/7/16 Eform 1 Trust, 3251XX. Any day now, hopefully...
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Posted: 5/5/2017 10:03:03 AM EDT
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Correct. In fact, if you try to double-page print it you will have issues because one of the pages will share between ATF Copy 2 and CLEO copy. The BATF instructions say you no longer need to have them double sided. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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New form 1's do not have to be printed on both sides of paper? true? Edit, I found my answer HERE. It does not appear that there is any penalty for printing the forms double sided: The specific instruction on the old versions of both forms stated: “Photocopies or Computer Generated Versions. After downloading or copying and printing this form from the ATF website, ensure that the front and back are on the same sheet of paper. The NFA Branch will not approve the application if the front and back are on separate sheets of paper.” The new version specifically disavows this requirement. The new instruction states: “Photocopies or Computer Generated Versions. The form may be copied or downloaded (for example, from the ATF website (www.atf.gov)). The form does not have to be printed front to back.” |
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Posted: 5/5/2017 11:49:22 AM EDT
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I'm actually pretty surprised that we haven't gone over a year on wait times. I thought that it would in a perfect storm of panic-buying. Not that 312 days is 'good', but it's lower than I thought it would be. If all other RIGHTS were subject to the same hoops that we as firearms owners jump through changes would happen very quickly. 312 seconds is too long!!! I am for CONSTITUTIONAL TRANSFERS. |
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Posted: 5/5/2017 2:18:02 PM EDT
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Preaching to the choir here, I'm a "zero gun laws" kinda guy myself. Just commenting on expected vs actual wait times.
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Posted: 5/8/2017 4:16:17 PM EDT
[#31]
07/07/16 Submitted
05/08/17 Approved Form 1 efile |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 10:49:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Submitted 07/07/16
Approved 05/12/17 Form 1, Trust, efile |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 11:05:07 AM EDT
[#33]
I'm really thinking I'll hit a year at this point.
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Posted: 5/12/2017 3:21:27 PM EDT
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I'm really thinking I'll hit a year at this point. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 3:24:19 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity, why do we get a Draft copy of the stamp emailed to us instead of an actual stamp?
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Posted: 5/12/2017 3:30:05 PM EDT
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Just out of curiosity, why do we get a Draft copy of the stamp emailed to us instead of an actual stamp? Email them, they'll correct it in a few days. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 3:48:32 PM EDT
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They screwed up. (happens a lot) Email them, they'll correct it in a few days. I thought maybe they emailed a draft, and then sent a hard copy later, but it's been 4 months...I forgot about it for a while. |
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Posted: 5/12/2017 3:55:21 PM EDT
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I'll try that, thanks. I thought maybe they emailed a draft, and then sent a hard copy later, but it's been 4 months...I forgot about it for a while. My first efile came draft status, email ted or ask the expert and they'll sort it out for you. (Not sure if he's still the go to guy) [email protected] Or eForms Help Desk Call 1 (877) 875-3723 or contact us by email at [email protected] |
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Posted: 5/13/2017 10:17:05 PM EDT
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Still waiting for my 7/8. Someone reported receiving approval on a control number 300 higher than mine nearly a week ago! Come on!
Rob |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 2:23:55 PM EDT
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I got my last Pre-41F stamp back. Form1 Trust SBR, submitted on 7/7/16, received 5/18/17. Now to purchase two more cans, a DeadAir Wolverine PBS-1 and either a DeadAir Sandman S or Silencerco Saker ASR K.
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Posted: 5/20/2017 8:37:16 PM EDT
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Form 4 Trust July 8, check cashed July 11th, not sure exactly when approved, but sent to the seller of the SBR, arrived at his address last Wednesday. This is the last of the ones I mailed last year.
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Posted: 5/21/2017 12:16:07 AM EDT
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My one and only Form 3 was approved today. Submitted 7/8/16. Approved 5/20/17. eForm, Trust.
Now I need to get my lower engraved. Rob |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 10:16:38 AM EDT
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After getting my form 1s back last week called around Spokane to try and find an engraver. Finally found one, AXIS MFG in the Spokane Valley just east of the fairgrounds. Did a couple of ARs and a CZ scorpion. Just throwing that out there for those drysiders who are in the same boat as me, all form'd up and nowhere to go.
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Posted: 5/22/2017 1:15:26 PM EDT
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After getting my form 1s back last week called around Spokane to try and find an engraver. Finally found one, AXIS MFG in the Spokane Valley just east of the fairgrounds. Did a couple of ARs and a CZ scorpion. Just throwing that out there for those drysiders who are in the same boat as me, all form'd up and nowhere to go. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 3:59:35 PM EDT
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I understand Trevor's business is co-located with CAR in Kent. I'm not familiar with them. Is that the same location where Pinto's Gun Shop used to be?
Rob |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 11:43:04 PM EDT
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I understand Trevor's business is co-located with CAR in Kent. I'm not familiar with them. Is that the same location where Pinto's Gun Shop used to be? Rob |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 12:14:48 AM EDT
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After getting my form 1s back last week called around Spokane to try and find an engraver. Finally found one, AXIS MFG in the Spokane Valley just east of the fairgrounds. Did a couple of ARs and a CZ scorpion. Just throwing that out there for those drysiders who are in the same boat as me, all form'd up and nowhere to go. |
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Posted: 5/30/2017 12:15:40 AM EDT
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Trevor did my NFA engraving on Saturday and I think it looks great.
Rob |
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Posted: 6/2/2017 2:08:28 AM EDT
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2x Form 1 - Eforms - SBR
Filed: 7/11/16 Approved: 5/31/2017 |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 6:31:53 PM EDT
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My trust paperwork has a form for transferring non-NFA firearms (or other property) to the Trust and particularly mentions transferring them to the Trust before building the Trust's SBR on Form 1.
For States that allow Form 1 SBRs AND require all firearms transfers to go through a dealer/FFL, does this also include the transfer of the Title 1 firearm or receiver from the individual to the Trust? Anyone had to do this before? The question here...one entity, an individual, owns a Title 1 firearm (AR-15 receiver). The Trust, a different entity, needs to own this receiver in order for the receiver to be "made" into an SBR. So the receiver needs to be transferred from one entity (individual) to another (Trust). Does this need to go through a dealer? EDIT: I talked to the firm that prepared my Trust and they said that they basically have no definitive answer. The Trust cannot really fill out a 4473, so it is the Trustee taking possession who fills it out and the Trustee who gets a NICS check. Since I am the only Trustee, that would mean ME filling out the 4473 and getting the NICS check when I am in fact also the Transferor. Since Spouses are exempt from provisions of I-594, I would have to assume that Self is also exempt. So as long as only myself and exempt persons are Trustees, there should never be a need to jump through this hoop for this type of transfer. But I'd still like to hear if anyone else has any real-world input into this. Rob |
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