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Posted: 8/24/2015 3:18:31 AM EDT
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We are in a holding pattern with litigation pending a legislative "fix" at the moment. Is the fix possibly due within this yr? |
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Posted: 8/24/2015 3:39:50 AM EDT
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Is the fix possibly due within this yr? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are in a holding pattern with litigation pending a legislative "fix" at the moment. Is the fix possibly due within this yr? No legislative session is left this year. It'll have to go to the session next year, which is scheduled to be a short session, but with the Supreme Court ruling that there isn't enough funding for schools it's possible the session could run further, potentially into the summer again. Realistically, assuming a bill could get passed next year (which is not a given, since they couldn't get out of committee this year) you'd be looking at probably July or so for a legislative fix. At the earliest. Also, likely post 41-P. |
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Posted: 8/24/2015 12:35:09 PM EDT
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Im sure that I missed it but is there a link to a text copy of the lawsuit and an account for donations? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are in a holding pattern with litigation pending a legislative "fix" at the moment. Im sure that I missed it but is there a link to a text copy of the lawsuit and an account for donations? there has not been a complaint filed yet. we are not filing "yet." |
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Posted: 8/24/2015 2:16:28 PM EDT
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As stated before, the head of the house judiciary committee may be moving to another committee. If this does come to be, then it may give us the opportunity to fix the RCW through legislative means.
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Posted: 8/24/2015 5:27:36 PM EDT
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That's what I have been trying to say but there is a bunch of spurts here who are sure that companies like RA and Aero are wrong. For Christ sake it was clearly spelled out in the form 1 denial that anyone received from the ATF and yes it was talking about WA law. July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? |
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Posted: 8/24/2015 6:31:06 PM EDT
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July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what I have been trying to say but there is a bunch of spurts here who are sure that companies like RA and Aero are wrong. For Christ sake it was clearly spelled out in the form 1 denial that anyone received from the ATF and yes it was talking about WA law. July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? I have no hard feelings about any of this. We are all here on Arfcom because we all like guns. We all want to see our rights untrampled and as restored as possible. Don't forget the time period where NFA branch suspsended *ALL* WA forms for NFA items  I don't blame my friend for wanting to hear from ATF first, before taking guns, engraving, etc. ATF says Form 4s from WA SOTs are good-to-go, so lets get to filing and bring the SBRs back. If by then Blake n Co get a revision and insert some Form 1 language for 2016 session- EVEN BETTER!
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Posted: 8/25/2015 3:39:28 PM EDT
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Just jumping into this thread.
Seems fishy they approved us for Form 1's for quite some time. Has anyone had their approved Form 1 rescinded/refunded by the ATF yet? |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 3:59:14 PM EDT
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Just jumping into this thread. Seems fishy they approved us for Form 1's for quite some time. Has anyone had their approved Form 1 rescinded/refunded by the ATF yet? I haven't heard of any, and I haven't received anything personally about mine. I'm scared as hell to do a 5320 to take it camping in Oregon and Idaho though. |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 6:14:10 PM EDT
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I haven't heard of any, and I haven't received anything personally about mine. I'm scared as hell to do a 5320 to take it camping in Oregon and Idaho though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just jumping into this thread. Seems fishy they approved us for Form 1's for quite some time. Has anyone had their approved Form 1 rescinded/refunded by the ATF yet? I haven't heard of any, and I haven't received anything personally about mine. I'm scared as hell to do a 5320 to take it camping in Oregon and Idaho though. This is raises an excellent question... Has anyone gotten a 5320 approved since this issue floated to the surface (May 2015-ish)? I got one in February... |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 9:33:52 PM EDT
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This is raises an excellent question... Has anyone gotten a 5320 approved since this issue floated to the surface (May 2015-ish)? I got one in February... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just jumping into this thread. Seems fishy they approved us for Form 1's for quite some time. Has anyone had their approved Form 1 rescinded/refunded by the ATF yet? I haven't heard of any, and I haven't received anything personally about mine. I'm scared as hell to do a 5320 to take it camping in Oregon and Idaho though. This is raises an excellent question... Has anyone gotten a 5320 approved since this issue floated to the surface (May 2015-ish)? I got one in February... Middle of this page has a picture of 1 of 3 of my 5320.20s that were approved on July 1, 2015: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_15/582816_Form_1_DENIED___There_it_is_folks____.html&page=14 |
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Posted: 8/25/2015 11:53:45 PM EDT
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Middle of this page has a picture of 1 of 3 of my 5320.20s that were approved on July 1, 2015: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_15/582816_Form_1_DENIED___There_it_is_folks____.html&page=14 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just jumping into this thread. Seems fishy they approved us for Form 1's for quite some time. Has anyone had their approved Form 1 rescinded/refunded by the ATF yet? I haven't heard of any, and I haven't received anything personally about mine. I'm scared as hell to do a 5320 to take it camping in Oregon and Idaho though. This is raises an excellent question... Has anyone gotten a 5320 approved since this issue floated to the surface (May 2015-ish)? I got one in February... Middle of this page has a picture of 1 of 3 of my 5320.20s that were approved on July 1, 2015: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_15/582816_Form_1_DENIED___There_it_is_folks____.html&page=14 Thank you for pointing that out. I've been worried about this and while this news isn't a guarantee, it is a positive indicator. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 12:45:11 PM EDT
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This brings up a point that was made earlier that I think needs reminding. If you have an approved Form1, please, do not, under any circumstance contact the ATF and ask if you are "ok". You have it approved, leave well enough alone. I know that there are going to be a ton of nervous folks calling them "just to make sure", and then, bam! sig brace all over again.
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Posted: 8/26/2015 8:00:12 PM EDT
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This brings up a point that was made earlier that I think needs reminding. If you have an approved Form1, please, do not, under any circumstance contact the ATF and ask if you are "ok". You have it approved, leave well enough alone. I know that there are going to be a ton of nervous folks calling them "just to make sure", and then, bam! sig brace all over again. You mean that Sig brace that the ATF has no enforcement authority over? That everyone can still be using, however they choose? That would barely make an add-on charge to a real crime, same as 922r? Many of the "patriots" on this site are nothing but spineless hall monitors when it comes down to it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2015 8:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This brings up a point that was made earlier that I think needs reminding. If you have an approved Form1, please, do not, under any circumstance contact the ATF and ask if you are "ok". You have it approved, leave well enough alone. I know that there are going to be a ton of nervous folks calling them "just to make sure", and then, bam! sig brace all over again. roflmao. Ill bet you good money some of these same fucking Jethroes have already called. Twice. They wont be satisfied until their doors are kicked in. They have the ATF on speed dial and want to prove they have use of a phone. As we have seen, they just cant help themselves. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 11:39:15 AM EDT
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You mean that Sig brace that the ATF has no enforcement authority over? That everyone can still be using, however they choose? That would barely make an add-on charge to a real crime, same as 922r? Many of the "patriots" on this site are nothing but spineless hall monitors when it comes down to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This brings up a point that was made earlier that I think needs reminding. If you have an approved Form1, please, do not, under any circumstance contact the ATF and ask if you are "ok". You have it approved, leave well enough alone. I know that there are going to be a ton of nervous folks calling them "just to make sure", and then, bam! sig brace all over again. You mean that Sig brace that the ATF has no enforcement authority over? That everyone can still be using, however they choose? That would barely make an add-on charge to a real crime, same as 922r? Many of the "patriots" on this site are nothing but spineless hall monitors when it comes down to it. A true "patriot" would just build the damn rifle anyway........ 
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Posted: 8/27/2015 1:19:02 PM EDT
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A true "patriot" would just build the damn rifle anyway........ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This brings up a point that was made earlier that I think needs reminding. If you have an approved Form1, please, do not, under any circumstance contact the ATF and ask if you are "ok". You have it approved, leave well enough alone. I know that there are going to be a ton of nervous folks calling them "just to make sure", and then, bam! sig brace all over again. You mean that Sig brace that the ATF has no enforcement authority over? That everyone can still be using, however they choose? That would barely make an add-on charge to a real crime, same as 922r? Many of the "patriots" on this site are nothing but spineless hall monitors when it comes down to it. A true "patriot" would just build the damn rifle anyway........ That's kind of what I'm getting at. I'm not going to foolishly run my mouth on here or break CoC, but I know more than one person who has made an honest effort to follow the law, been fucked over by the legislative shenanigans, and just said 'screw it'.. built what they wanted to and STFU about it. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:14:28 PM EDT
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Not a smart way to go about anything. I would tell anyone who approaches this issue with an attitude like that to grow up.
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Posted: 8/27/2015 2:38:13 PM EDT
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Not a smart way to go about anything. I would tell anyone who approaches this issue with an attitude like that to grow up. I guess some people think freedom beats this ongoing legislative masturbation. And no, I'm not talking about me doing this.. I'm too broke for any of it anyway. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 8:56:23 PM EDT
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For the time being,,, laws do mean something....If you don't think so, then don't bitch about the
border crossers. When the time comes that something not legal to you becomes a matter of life or death, then the law means nothing anyway at that point. A true Patriot will obey laws even if they don't like them, or will change them. I have not heard a call to arms yet to clean up Gov..........................yet...................... |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 10:55:45 PM EDT
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For the time being,,, laws do mean something....If you don't think so, then don't bitch about the border crossers. When the time comes that something not legal to you becomes a matter of life or death, then the law means nothing anyway at that point. A true Patriot will obey laws even if they don't like them, or will change them. I have not heard a call to arms yet to clean up Gov..........................yet...................... Yet. |
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Posted: 8/27/2015 11:38:13 PM EDT
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I wonder if "yet" is a qualifying word for "the list"?
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Posted: 8/28/2015 12:50:11 AM EDT
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I do NOT advocate breaking the law......
Just food for thought. 
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Posted: 8/28/2015 3:27:20 AM EDT
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July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what I have been trying to say but there is a bunch of spurts here who are sure that companies like RA and Aero are wrong. For Christ sake it was clearly spelled out in the form 1 denial that anyone received from the ATF and yes it was talking about WA law. July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.190 Manufacture or assemble... |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:12:22 PM EDT
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I do NOT advocate breaking the law...... Just food for thought. To paraphrase Chris Rock: I'm not advocating it.. but I understand it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 1:40:15 PM EDT
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To paraphrase Chris Rock: I'm not advocating it.. but I understand it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do NOT advocate breaking the law...... Just food for thought. To paraphrase Chris Rock: I'm not advocating it.. but I understand it. Indeed |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 11:19:51 AM EDT
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July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what I have been trying to say but there is a bunch of spurts here who are sure that companies like RA and Aero are wrong. For Christ sake it was clearly spelled out in the form 1 denial that anyone received from the ATF and yes it was talking about WA law. July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? F2/F4s are good to go, did I miss something? The difference is companies like RA and Aero have their legal team look at these situations before they proceed. The fact is SBRs were legalized in WA, it is unfortunate that we cannot F1, in the past I could not even own one so I will take the good with the bad and move forward. These types of threads are not helping because there will always be a certain few who read them and start making phone calls and writing letters. Let the experts sort this out not the spurts. |
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Posted: 8/30/2015 12:53:02 PM EDT
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F2/F4s are good to go, did I miss something? The difference is companies like RA and Aero have their legal team look at these situations before they proceed. The fact is SBRs were legalized in WA, it is unfortunate that we cannot F1, in the past I could not even own one so I will take the good with the bad and move forward. These types of threads are not helping because there will always be a certain few who read them and start making phone calls and writing letters. Let he experts sort this out not the spurts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what I have been trying to say but there is a bunch of spurts here who are sure that companies like RA and Aero are wrong. For Christ sake it was clearly spelled out in the form 1 denial that anyone received from the ATF and yes it was talking about WA law. July 2014: Spurt: Form 1 SBRs don't appear to be allowed under the RCW.... Dude: yeah? Well I just got my approved F1 back, so they're good to go! Spurt: really? Still seems suspicious, but ok. Les do this! Fast forward 10 months to May 27th, 2015 Dude: SHIT! F1 SBRs are a no-go! WTF?!?!? Spurt: well, I thought so, looks like I was right. August 2015: Dude: F2/F4 SBRs are good to go! Spurt: really? Doesn't seem like it from the RCW. Dude: fool, shut up. These manufacturers know their shit. It's all good... Spurt: well, I guess we'll see...... Fast forward 10 months into 2016.........???? F2/F4s are good to go, did I miss something? The difference is companies like RA and Aero have their legal team look at these situations before they proceed. The fact is SBRs were legalized in WA, it is unfortunate that we cannot F1, in the past I could not even own one so I will take the good with the bad and move forward. These types of threads are not helping because there will always be a certain few who read them and start making phone calls and writing letters. Let he experts sort this out not the spurts. All these comedians out of work and you keep trying to join them... 
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Posted: 8/30/2015 1:23:01 PM EDT
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Not a smart way to go about anything. I would tell anyone who approaches this issue with an attitude like that to grow up. Some people get tired of the legislature and bureaucrats constantly fucking with us, THEY are the ones that need to grow up. Based on what I've seen.. There are probably millions of unregistered SBRs in the US. I doubt WA is any different. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 2:44:27 PM EDT
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TAG. Interesting...
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Posted: 9/1/2015 7:58:47 PM EDT
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Finally got my refund.
A nice $600.00 credit on the CC.
Denied the at the end of May as I recall |
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Posted: 9/5/2015 7:20:04 AM EDT
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Took my stuff to Rainier yesterday.
Window of opportunity: use if or lose it. |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 3:01:00 PM EDT
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Someone on Sig Forum under the MPX update thread, said he just got a form 1 approved and he is from WA State. I asked how he did that, but have not received a respose yet.
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Posted: 9/7/2015 3:24:17 PM EDT
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Someone on Sig Forum under the MPX update thread, said he just got a form 1 approved and he is from WA State. I asked how he did that, but have not received a respose yet. Keep us updated. |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 3:27:56 PM EDT
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Someone on Sig Forum under the MPX update thread, said he just got a form 1 approved and he is from WA State. I asked how he did that, but have not received a respose yet. Keep us updated. Here is the link http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/4610068653/p/48 |
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Posted: 9/7/2015 3:59:14 PM EDT
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He filed using the address of his 2nd home in Utah.
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Posted: 9/7/2015 5:03:49 PM EDT
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He just replied back and I saw that. I have a form 1 in currently and it should get approved under LEO excemption 9.41.190. We will see.
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Posted: 9/11/2015 11:55:17 AM EDT
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So this would be an approved weapon to use on duty? The dept knows your doing this? Cause the fact that you happen to be a LEO doesn't really have any bearing on it unless its done in your "official capacity" as a LEO.
(3) Subsection (1) of this section shall not apply to: (a) Any peace officer in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty, or to any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty; or |
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Posted: 9/11/2015 6:30:53 PM EDT
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Yes, I can't carry anything that isn't approved by the dept. I am also a state certified LE firearms instructor, so said firearm can be used for training and any LE related firearm shooting events. So yes all duty related.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 2:38:16 AM EDT
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just got my second F1 back..disapproved...
has anyone tried attaching a statement that their intent was, upon approval of the F1, file a 5320.20, take the parts out of state to assemble & return with the completed SBR? hell, I've already "spent" the 200 on the rejected F1, might as well give it a try when I get it refunded, right? |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:19:28 AM EDT
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i seriously doubt that they'd approve on that basis at this juncture. They have an excuse to deny F1s and no motivation to facilitate anyone's 2A rights. Also, asking could light a fuse over there that leads to more problems for the good guys. Better not too and hope there is a legal/legislative solution. Personally, I don't have much faith in either one....I'm pretty sure this state is doomed. As soon as I can pull it off, I'm gonna GTFO and move to a truly free state.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 3:37:54 AM EDT
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i seriously doubt that they'd approve on that basis at this juncture. They have an excuse to deny F1s and no motivation to facilitate anyone's 2A rights. Also, asking could light a fuse over there that leads to more problems for the good guys. Better not too and hope there is a legal/legislative solution. Personally, I don't have much faith in either one....I'm pretty sure this state is doomed. As soon as I can pull it off, I'm gonna GTFO and move to a truly free state. Curious: explain the "light a fuse" comment? |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 8:39:42 PM EDT
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just got my second F1 back..disapproved... has anyone tried attaching a statement that their intent was, upon approval of the F1, file a 5320.20, take the parts out of state to assemble & return with the completed SBR? hell, I've already "spent" the 200 on the rejected F1, might as well give it a try when I get it refunded, right? Sorry to jump in. I have an approved form 4 SBR in NV. If I end up moving to WA in the future can I expect to run into a roadblock filing a 5320.20 to bring my SBR there? |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 9:08:08 PM EDT
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just got my second F1 back..disapproved... has anyone tried attaching a statement that their intent was, upon approval of the F1, file a 5320.20, take the parts out of state to assemble & return with the completed SBR? hell, I've already "spent" the 200 on the rejected F1, might as well give it a try when I get it refunded, right? Sorry to jump in. I have an approved form 4 SBR in NV. If I end up moving to WA in the future can I expect to run into a roadblock filing a 5320.20 to bring my SBR there? No, but be sure to have the F5320.20 approved before you move. |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 9:08:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry to jump in. I have an approved form 4 SBR in NV. If I end up moving to WA in the future can I expect to run into a roadblock filing a 5320.20 to bring my SBR there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: just got my second F1 back..disapproved... has anyone tried attaching a statement that their intent was, upon approval of the F1, file a 5320.20, take the parts out of state to assemble & return with the completed SBR? hell, I've already "spent" the 200 on the rejected F1, might as well give it a try when I get it refunded, right? Sorry to jump in. I have an approved form 4 SBR in NV. If I end up moving to WA in the future can I expect to run into a roadblock filing a 5320.20 to bring my SBR there? |
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Posted: 9/12/2015 9:42:15 PM EDT
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Thanks guys, that's a relief. Was bummed when I heard of the trouble you all are having up there.
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Posted: 9/12/2015 11:46:57 PM EDT
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Well looks like the guys at SAA in Tacoma are spreading rumors that the ATF is revoking SBR Form 1s in WA. I have a really hard time believing anything they say there. I wish people would confirm things before they say anything like that. One of the guys at SAA told my wife that a .45 will knock a grown man back 10 feet - so we don't typically rely on them for good intel any more.
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Posted: 9/13/2015 1:59:24 AM EDT
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Well looks like the guys at SAA in Tacoma are spreading rumors that the ATF is revoking SBR Form 1s in WA. I have a really hard time believing anything they say there. I wish people would confirm things before they say anything like that. One of the guys at SAA told my wife that a .45 will knock a grown man back 10 feet - so we don't typically rely on them for good intel any more. The ATF is denying Form 1 SBR's in WA since May 27th, 2015. That is the topic of this thread. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 2:03:26 AM EDT
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Well looks like the guys at SAA in Tacoma are spreading rumors that the ATF is revoking SBR Form 1s in WA. I have a really hard time believing anything they say there. I wish people would confirm things before they say anything like that. One of the guys at SAA told my wife that a .45 will knock a grown man back 10 feet - so we don't typically rely on them for good intel any more. I think if that were true word would be spreading very quickly. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 2:38:24 PM EDT
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The ATF is denying Form 1 SBR's in WA since May 27th, 2015. That is the topic of this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well looks like the guys at SAA in Tacoma are spreading rumors that the ATF is revoking SBR Form 1s in WA. I have a really hard time believing anything they say there. I wish people would confirm things before they say anything like that. One of the guys at SAA told my wife that a .45 will knock a grown man back 10 feet - so we don't typically rely on them for good intel any more. The ATF is denying Form 1 SBR's in WA since May 27th, 2015. That is the topic of this thread. Yes, thank you. I said they're claiming the Form 1 stamps are being REVOKED - not denied. I understand they're being denied.. mine was denied. I'm talking about the people who already had theirs approved. Mecha, I agree. I'm sure we would have heard about it by now. |
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Posted: 9/13/2015 6:54:24 PM EDT
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Yes, thank you. I said they're claiming the Form 1 stamps are being REVOKED - not denied. I understand they're being denied.. mine was denied. I'm talking about the people who already had theirs approved. Mecha, I agree. I'm sure we would have heard about it by now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well looks like the guys at SAA in Tacoma are spreading rumors that the ATF is revoking SBR Form 1s in WA. I have a really hard time believing anything they say there. I wish people would confirm things before they say anything like that. One of the guys at SAA told my wife that a .45 will knock a grown man back 10 feet - so we don't typically rely on them for good intel any more. The ATF is denying Form 1 SBR's in WA since May 27th, 2015. That is the topic of this thread. Yes, thank you. I said they're claiming the Form 1 stamps are being REVOKED - not denied. I understand they're being denied.. mine was denied. I'm talking about the people who already had theirs approved. Mecha, I agree. I'm sure we would have heard about it by now. Ahh I get what you mean now. Shit, I hope that is just a rumor. How would that be enforced? |
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