Help a Texas boy out with some camping info.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Help a Texas boy out with some camping info.

Posted: 3/18/2015 10:05:27 AM EDT

I want to do a little solo camping this April in the northwest Olympic national forest.

Am I going to be eaten by a bear? I know to keep food something like 100 feet away along with any smelly foods. But should I be afraid of Bears waking from hibernation?

Posted: 3/18/2015 10:08:02 AM EDT

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Bear proof container for food and you're good. Black bears are more afraid of you than you are of them. Mountain goats are your enemy.

Also, the bears are already awake.

Posted: 3/18/2015 10:17:13 AM EDT

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Bear proof container for food and you're good. Black bears are more afraid of you than you are of them. Mountain goats are your enemy.

Also, the bears are already awake.

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Don't pee on the trail or near Your campsite.

Posted: 3/18/2015 6:12:19 PM EDT

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Sadly WA does not recognize TX CHL's, but we do have open carry here. So you could carry a sidearm with you while hiking, just make sure it is "visible".

Posted: 3/18/2015 9:35:23 PM EDT

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Bring 200' of para cord ane a 20' x 20' tarp

Posted: 3/19/2015 7:20:49 AM EDT

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Sadly WA does not recognize TX CHL's, but we do have open carry here. So you could carry a sidearm with you while hiking, just make sure it is "visible".

You can carry concealed if you wish as well; no license required.

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

(8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

Posted: 3/19/2015 9:04:53 AM EDT

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Watch out for Bigfoot

Posted: 3/19/2015 12:15:08 PM EDT

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Given the weather we've been having there will be a shitload of mosquitoes, bring your spray.

The cougar population is also exploding in that region. If you go far inland don't be surprised to find cougar prints shadowing yours if you backtrack on your trail.

Posted: 3/19/2015 11:05:21 PM EDT

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Yep, just like polo bears.
Can't throw a stick with out hitting one

Posted: 3/21/2015 2:05:00 PM EDT

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I know where I am going. Short march but I am going to stay for 2 nights. Will be staying in the national forest and out of the national park. It's up high and I know it will be freezing like the last two times so I am loading up like I am going to mt. Everest. Will be bringing more than a concealed gun too. I know big cats are badass. But bears are what really scares me more than anything. Texas has goats and cats. I just don't think there is a single thing I could do against a charging bear. Thanks for the info guys.

Wifey will be on the Stennis for 6 weeks and I just want to get away.

Posted: 3/21/2015 5:22:08 PM EDT

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You can carry concealed if you wish as well; no license required.

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Sadly WA does not recognize TX CHL's, but we do have open carry here. So you could carry a sidearm with you while hiking, just make sure it is "visible".

You can carry concealed if you wish as well; no license required.

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

(8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

True, but only applicable to the National Forest areas, not the National Park areas. But OP is staying out of the NP, so good to go. Same applies for OC, not in the NP.

Posted: 3/21/2015 9:49:17 PM EDT

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True, but only applicable to the National Forest areas, not the National Park areas. But OP is staying out of the NP, so good to go. Same applies for OC, not in the NP.

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Sadly WA does not recognize TX CHL's, but we do have open carry here. So you could carry a sidearm with you while hiking, just make sure it is "visible".

You can carry concealed if you wish as well; no license required.

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

(8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

True, but only applicable to the National Forest areas, not the National Park areas. But OP is staying out of the NP, so good to go. Same applies for OC, not in the NP.

Rumor? Can you provide a cite?

The carry that's lawful in the state where the park is located is lawful in the Park. So open carry- LEGAL. Concealed carry with a CPL or recognized out of state permit- LEGAL. Concealed carry without a license under the provisions of RCW above- LEGAL.

Posted: 3/21/2015 11:13:18 PM EDT

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Rumor? Can you provide a cite?

The carry that's lawful in the state where the park is located is lawful in the Park. So open carry- LEGAL. Concealed carry with a CPL or recognized out of state permit- LEGAL. Concealed carry without a license under the provisions of RCW above- LEGAL.

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I just looked it up at http://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf and you are correct and I was not. I thought that OC in the NP wasn't OK because I remembered the debate centering around CPLs and wasn't concerned with OC.

Shit, you actually CAN learn something on this site!

Posted: 3/22/2015 12:29:26 AM EDT

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I've run into a few bears at close quarters in the Pacific NW, and only one of them failed to run away from me as fast as it's legs could carry it. The other one seemed unafraid, but did not charge, it kept its distance while I made enough noise to let it know I was there, and I was not going to run from it like a scared rabbit. That one did make me a bit nervous, so I slowly got out of there while keeping a close eye on it. They will not normally bother you, but might be interested in your food if you are not smart about where you keep it. I am much more concerned about cougars, they have become a lot more numerous, and bold, and they are much too quiet.

Posted: 3/22/2015 2:39:41 PM EDT

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Don't underestimate the goats. They have killed a couple of hikers in the last several years. Other than that, take good rain gear.

Posted: 3/22/2015 2:50:55 PM EDT

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But bears are what really scares me more than anything. Texas has goats and cats. I just don't think there is a single thing I could do against a charging bear. Thanks for the info guys.

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Every bear and wolf I have encountered around here has been far more wary of me than I of them. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it that much. I would much rather take my chances with them than the alligators, cottonmouth snakes and rattle snakes, fire ants and all the critters that are trying to bite or sting you in Texas.

Posted: 3/23/2015 12:23:35 PM EDT

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Every bear and wolf I have encountered around here has been far more wary of me than I of them. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it that much. I would much rather take my chances with them than the alligators, cottonmouth snakes and rattle snakes, fire ants and all the critters that are trying to bite or sting you in Texas.

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But bears are what really scares me more than anything. Texas has goats and cats. I just don't think there is a single thing I could do against a charging bear. Thanks for the info guys.

Every bear and wolf I have encountered around here has been far more wary of me than I of them. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it that much. I would much rather take my chances with them than the alligators, cottonmouth snakes and rattle snakes, fire ants and all the critters that are trying to bite or sting you in Texas.

True this.

Posted: 3/24/2015 11:57:23 PM EDT

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Don't underestimate the goats. They have killed a couple of hikers in the last several years. Other than that, take good rain gear.

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What could a goat do to a 24 year old able bodied man. I understand plowing the fuck out of some older person and tossing them to the floor in a weird way or Down steep cliff.

Posted: 3/25/2015 8:50:38 AM EDT

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What could a goat do to a 24 year old able bodied man. I understand plowing the fuck out of some older person and tossing them to the floor in a weird way or Down steep cliff.

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Don't underestimate the goats. They have killed a couple of hikers in the last several years. Other than that, take good rain gear.

What could a goat do to a 24 year old able bodied man. I understand plowing the fuck out of some older person and tossing them to the floor in a weird way or Down steep cliff.

They're not little farm goats. Imagine a pro wrestler with a pointy stick going for your crotch.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20101017/NEWS/310179991/man-killed-by-goat-in-olympic-national-park-was-experienced-hiker

Posted: 3/25/2015 12:23:05 PM EDT

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They're not little farm goats. Imagine a pro wrestler with a pointy stick going for your crotch.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20101017/NEWS/310179991/man-killed-by-goat-in-olympic-national-park-was-experienced-hiker

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Don't underestimate the goats. They have killed a couple of hikers in the last several years. Other than that, take good rain gear.

What could a goat do to a 24 year old able bodied man. I understand plowing the fuck out of some older person and tossing them to the floor in a weird way or Down steep cliff.

They're not little farm goats. Imagine a pro wrestler with a pointy stick going for your crotch.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20101017/NEWS/310179991/man-killed-by-goat-in-olympic-national-park-was-experienced-hiker

Yeah, they can get up to 180 lbs too. Neat looking animals, but keep your distance:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/mountain_goats.html

Posted: 3/25/2015 7:01:20 PM EDT

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Where are you going specifically?

I've done Lake 3995 up in the Wonder Mtn Wilderness solo and it's incredible. There are no trails into or within the Wilderness, so you need to know the way and navigate your own way there without the use of trails. Great fishing and perfect solitude, but you're a looooooong way from anything.

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