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Posted: 2/23/2015 12:08:09 AM EDT

Tuesday the 24th at 5:00

From the little blurb I saw they showed Ralph Faschetti and said something about how people were getting around I-594, then went into people buying SBR's, and silencers.

I am sure it will be a hit piece, I may even throw something at the TV and break it.

But I do have the DVR set.

Posted: 2/23/2015 11:12:30 AM EDT

[#1]

So in a state that is solidly split on the issue, where nearly half voted against the unenforceable law, they're surprised that people are not complying?

Posted: 2/23/2015 4:34:49 PM EDT

[#2]

Great they are going to focus on NFA items which had nothing to do with 594. Even more reason why I'm getting all of my tax stamps collected ASAP.

Posted: 2/23/2015 6:38:14 PM EDT

[#3]

Saw the add for that. Made it sound like I594 made it so you can pick up cans and SBRs anywhere with no check at all. I'm almost curious enough to watch it just to see what kind of crap they made up for this piece.

Posted: 2/23/2015 6:59:49 PM EDT

[#4]

Depending on how they spin it,it may be the last time i ever watch kiro. The trailer didn't look too promising.

Posted: 2/24/2015 10:05:49 AM EDT

[#5]

someone post video for eastsiders.

I'd like to see what they say about nfa

Posted: 2/24/2015 3:39:03 PM EDT

[#6]

Is it this video? http://www.kirotv.com/videos/online/video-enforcement-issues-surround-i-594/vC8TQQ/

Randy

Posted: 2/24/2015 4:15:33 PM EDT

[#7]

Does anyone know anything about the claimed prevented sale?

My bet is that if they did "stop" some prohibited person, it was someone who had no idea they were prohibited and was trying to buy a gun from a dealer, not a private party.

I'll also wager that nothing happened to the person that attempted to buy.

Posted: 2/24/2015 8:20:14 PM EDT

[#8]

I just saw another trailer leading up to this story at five on Kiro. Is it me or are they trying to tie multiple issues they obviously know dick about into one story? I mean they are mentioning I594 along with short barrel rifles and silencers. So what exactly are they trying to say?

Posted: 2/24/2015 10:25:27 PM EDT

[#9]

Story did not air at 5pm, they just teased it. Unfortunately I just got home and only recorded the 5 o'clock news. Going to have to check out the Kiro website.

Posted: 2/24/2015 10:38:37 PM EDT

[#10]

Tag lines:

VIDEO: KIRO 7 investigates background check bypass being used by thousands

Expanded gun background checks are now a law in Washington -- so why isn't it happening?

It's a hit piece on NFA trusts. Gundocx Dennis Brislawn.

Always glad to see that Ralph is on top of knowing his stuff.

He didn't know that trusts existed.

http://www.kirotv.com/videos/online/video-kiro-7-investigates-background-check-bypass/vDHgmF/

Posted: 2/24/2015 11:50:05 PM EDT

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Does anyone know anything about the claimed prevented sale?

My bet is that if they did "stop" some prohibited person, it was someone who had no idea they were prohibited and was trying to buy a gun from a dealer, not a private party.

I'll also wager that nothing happened to the person that attempted to buy.

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Hey, there you go. It saved just one life. Now repeal it and move on.

Posted: 2/24/2015 11:52:53 PM EDT

[#12]

Fuck Me. Thats complete bullshit.

Who told them about NFA and trusts?

Posted: 2/25/2015 1:07:03 AM EDT

[#13]

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Does anyone know anything about the claimed prevented sale?

My bet is that if they did "stop" some prohibited person, it was someone who had no idea they were prohibited and was trying to buy a gun from a dealer, not a private party.

I'll also wager that nothing happened to the person that attempted to buy.

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Does anyone know anything about the claimed prevented sale?

My bet is that if they did "stop" some prohibited person, it was someone who had no idea they were prohibited and was trying to buy a gun from a dealer, not a private party.

I'll also wager that nothing happened to the person that attempted to buy.

http://nwnewsnetwork.org/post/new-background-check-law-likely-stopped-prohibited-buyer-washington-gun-show

Paul Snider organized the Lewis Clark Trader Gun Show at the Spokane
County Fair & Expo the first weekend in December. He said because
Washington’s new background check law had taken effect a couple of days
earlier, he recruited three federally-licensed gun dealers to conduct
background checks for person-to-person sales.

On Saturday December 6, one of those checks came back with a denial.

"There
was a person that tried to buy a firearm and he was refused only to
find out later that the person there was a warrant out for his arrest,”
Snider said.

Yet they weren't arrested there; "Snider said he hopes the man is arrested..."

Posted: 2/25/2015 3:31:31 AM EDT

[#14]

just watched it online.

What I expected a hit piece.

lets see if you are a felon you cannot touch a gun, so a trust will not help you, same for a MG and a suppressor, well I suppose you may be able to just hold onto a suppressor you just can't have it attached to a gun.

the reporter mentioned a CLEO sign off but not the reasons this is bad, no one in Seattle would ever have a suppressor or SBR

Posted: 2/25/2015 5:38:14 AM EDT

[#15]

It was the best technical understanding of the relevant laws that I have ever seen on the news.

Posted: 2/25/2015 11:20:27 AM EDT

[#16]

It might be the best you've seen on the news, but it was still incorrect. It was claimed that I-594 did not address trusts; but it does.
I-594 section 2 paragraph 17 says;

(17) "Person" means any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, club, organization, society, joint stock company, or other legal entity.

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A trust is a legal entity. This is something the AG could iron out; too bad he is too chicken-shit to give an opinion.

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.... well I suppose you may be able to just hold onto a suppressor you just can't have it attached to a gun.

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A silencer is legally a firearm. If a person is not allowed to hold a firearm, then they can't hold a silencer.

Randy

Posted: 2/26/2015 1:22:37 AM EDT

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Yet they weren't arrested there; "Snider said he hopes the man is arrested..."

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On Saturday December 6, one of those checks came back with a denial.

"There was a person that tried to buy a firearm and he was refused only to find out later that the person there was a warrant out for his arrest,” Snider said.

Yet they weren't arrested there; "Snider said he hopes the man is arrested..."

In my experience a "Deny" response is not the initial response, but a "Delay" is issued first. Then a day or two later it becomes a "Deny". My sample is small, only 4 "Deny" responses in almost 7 years, and one guy accounts for two of those. He thought he had it cleared up, but didn't. So in reality, it was 3 people that were given a "Deny" response, but two of those guys got them overturned on appeal. In other words, the "Deny" error rate was 67%......

Posted: 2/26/2015 2:43:16 AM EDT

[#18]

delay is no biggie, I get them all the time just because i share a name with a guy on the FBI 10 most wanted list.

Posted: 2/26/2015 9:11:13 AM EDT

[#19]

Another thing, I'm NEVER told why a person gets a Deny response, or even a Delay for that matter. The only way I could find that out is if the person tells me, the FBI will never divulge the reason to me or any FFL.....

Posted: 2/26/2015 6:03:32 PM EDT

[#20]

I used to never get a delay, but the last three times I've bought/transferred anything I've got a delay, even when including my SSN. Super annoying and somewhat worrying, because my name is not that common.

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