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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:24:31 PM EDT
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Hopefully the Governor will sign it into law.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:35:33 PM EDT
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Holy crap it passed.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:59:46 PM EDT
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Holy crap it passed. I know! |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:12:56 PM EDT
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Now how about hunting on Sunday.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 8:31:12 PM EDT
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So I'll be able to use my ar for hunting. sweet.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 9:10:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I'll be able to use my ar for hunting. sweet. Governor still has to sign it. News link |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 6:03:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2016 8:05:50 AM EDT
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I think the biggest hurdle here is Wolf. Im hoping if he signs its PGC allows semi-auto for all species and makes it easy .
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Posted: 10/28/2016 10:11:01 AM EDT
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I think the biggest hurdle here is Wolf. Im hoping if he signs its PGC allows semi-auto for all species and makes it easy . I think they will. Hopefully more like a 10rd limit and not 3 or 5 |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 10:18:24 AM EDT
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Any idea on when this will be official?
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Posted: 10/28/2016 11:59:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And PGC will then have the power to say what and where if at all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So I'll be able to use my ar for hunting. sweet. Governor still has to sign it. News link |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:14:11 PM EDT
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The best part is shooting down the anti gun BS that they are not for hunting. Makes it harder for them to go after them in the future.
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Posted: 10/29/2016 12:20:51 AM EDT
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I'd love to have an excuse to build an AR to hunt deer in PA but I'm not going to get myself excited.
Wolf is a tool and will likely veto this for fear of looking "pro gun" to his socialist cronies. Even if his veto is overridden I don't put any faith in the PGC to actually allow AR platform rifles to hunt big game. We can thank all the drunk, neckbearded fudds walking around with pappy's bolt action ought 6 for the reputation it gives us responsible hunters. At best you guys will get to use your 10/22's to hunt tree rats next season. |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 1:34:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd love to have an excuse to build an AR to hunt deer in PA but I'm not going to get myself excited. Wolf is a tool and will likely veto this for fear of looking "pro gun" to his socialist cronies. Even if his veto is overridden I don't put any faith in the PGC to actually allow AR platform rifles to hunt big game. We can thank all the drunk, neckbearded fudds walking around with pappy's bolt action ought 6 for the reputation it gives us responsible hunters. At best you guys will get to use your 10/22's to hunt tree rats next season. The scuttlebutt over on the PAFOA forum is that the PGC will likely look to varmints and woodchucks as a first step. There are members on that forum that have been very involved in moving this thing forward. They also report from sources that Wolf is expected to sign it. The theory is that since it doesn't authorize hunting use of semi-autos per se, he will have political cover for his decision. Other than that, he can take no action and after 10 days it becomes law without his blessing or condemnation at all. |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 3:17:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOther than that, he can take no action and after 10 days it becomes law without his blessing or condemnation at all. That's interesting. I didn't realize that. I guess that makes sense so a governor can't just sit on a bill forever. Guess we'll wait and see. |
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Posted: 10/29/2016 6:07:17 PM EDT
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I'd love to be able to use my AR to hunt coyotes
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Posted: 10/29/2016 9:15:15 PM EDT
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I'd love to be able to use my AR to hunt coyotes This and the 10-22 thing |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 1:21:48 PM EDT
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So I should start saving for a Larue 308?
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Posted: 10/31/2016 6:01:45 PM EDT
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Holy crap it passed. Hi and Congratulations !!!! |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 9:37:37 PM EDT
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Never in a million years did I expect this in PA. Kudos to those directly involved in the effort.
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Posted: 11/1/2016 12:16:46 PM EDT
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Time to get a g3.
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Posted: 11/1/2016 1:37:57 PM EDT
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Hi and Congratulations !!!! Its still waiting on Wolfs signature to make it law from what Ive read. Or letting the waiting period pass and its default passed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy crap it passed. Hi and Congratulations !!!! Its still waiting on Wolfs signature to make it law from what Ive read. Or letting the waiting period pass and its default passed. |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 10:06:59 PM EDT
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Assuming the Governor either signs or allows it to become law after 10 days w/o his signature;
What are the realistic odds the PGC will decide to actually allow hunting with semi-autos for big game? I could see them giving the green light for small game (rimfire) and maybe varmint (probably with a mag capacity restriction)... I give it less than 10% chance that they'll allow it for big game... I pray I'm wrong. I really want an excuse (justification) for a 6.8 build. |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 10:35:49 PM EDT
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PGC has too much power.
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Posted: 11/5/2016 11:07:35 PM EDT
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Assuming the Governor either signs or allows it to become law after 10 days w/o his signature; What are the realistic odds the PGC will decide to actually allow hunting with semi-autos for big game? I could see them giving the green light for small game (rimfire) and maybe varmint (probably with a mag capacity restriction)... I give it less than 10% chance that they'll allow it for big game... I pray I'm wrong. I really want an excuse (justification) for a 6.8 build. Yes lets build a 308, 6.8, 6.5 whatever for hunting. Sounds great to me! Also lets start working on making it legal to hunt with a silencer.  Lets make PA great again! Lol seriously though can we get started on the silencer thing next?
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Posted: 11/6/2016 6:02:52 AM EDT
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Yes lets build a 308, 6.8, 6.5 whatever for hunting. Sounds great to me! Also lets start working on making it legal to hunt with a silencer. Lets make PA great again! Lol seriously though can we get started on the silencer thing next?You can hunt with a silencer now. Nothing prohibits it. |
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Posted: 11/6/2016 11:14:02 AM EDT
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You can hunt with a silencer now. Nothing prohibits it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes lets build a 308, 6.8, 6.5 whatever for hunting. Sounds great to me! Also lets start working on making it legal to hunt with a silencer. Lets make PA great again! Lol seriously though can we get started on the silencer thing next?You can hunt with a silencer now. Nothing prohibits it. This! https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.princelaw.com/2015/11/24/hunting-with-silencers-in-pa-is-legal/amp/?client=safari |
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Posted: 11/6/2016 6:31:35 PM EDT
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Yes lets build a 308, 6.8, 6.5 whatever for hunting. Sounds great to me! Also lets start working on making it legal to hunt with a silencer. Lets make PA great again! Lol seriously though can we get started on the silencer thing next?Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Assuming the Governor either signs or allows it to become law after 10 days w/o his signature; What are the realistic odds the PGC will decide to actually allow hunting with semi-autos for big game? I could see them giving the green light for small game (rimfire) and maybe varmint (probably with a mag capacity restriction)... I give it less than 10% chance that they'll allow it for big game... I pray I'm wrong. I really want an excuse (justification) for a 6.8 build. Yes lets build a 308, 6.8, 6.5 whatever for hunting. Sounds great to me! Also lets start working on making it legal to hunt with a silencer. Lets make PA great again! Lol seriously though can we get started on the silencer thing next? Hunting with a suppressor is and has been legal in PA.
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Posted: 11/7/2016 8:27:39 AM EDT
[#29]
Where can I see/obtain the actual text of the bill?
Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/7/2016 10:38:16 AM EDT
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Where can I see/obtain the actual text of the bill? Thanks. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=PDF&sessYr=2015&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=0263&pn=4122 It's a shame they way they worded the amendment it only applies to rifles, and not pistols. Handgun hunters will still be restricted to revolvers or single shots. |
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Posted: 11/7/2016 8:33:57 PM EDT
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I am joining this late but yea hunting with a suppressor is legal in PA. I do not expect we will be able to use semiauto rifles or shotguns for big game but being able to use them for small game, or furbearers will be a very good start. Hell, just a semiauto 22lr for squirrel, rabbits, and groundhogs would be a great start. If we could get to use centerfire too, I might just start trying to hung groundhogs again as my 12-pound CMP rifle would be fun to pick off groundhogs out to 400+ yards!
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Posted: 11/10/2016 8:26:41 PM EDT
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Via my NRA email... thought it would be worth passing along Today, the Pennsylvania Senate amended House Bill 263 to include language that would eliminate the prohibition on semi-automatic rifles for hunting and allow for the Game Commission to regulate these sporting rifles for all game species in accordance with season and bag limits. The use of semi-automatic shotguns for hunting has been legal for decades in Pennsylvania. Ending the prohibition on semi-automatic rifle hunting would provide Pennsylvania hunters the same opportunities and options enjoyed by hunters in the majority of other states. Tomorrow is the last day of session, so HB 263 will go before both chambers for approval. Please call your state Representative and state Senator TODAY and politely urge them to support HB 263, as amended. Also, please click the “Take Action” button below to contact them with your support! Members of the PA House Members of the PA Senate Any updates ? |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 12:23:24 AM EDT
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Bill history: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/bill_history.cfm?syear=2015&sind=0&body=H&type=B&bn=263
Signed in Senate 11-9 and off to the governor. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 10:37:41 AM EDT
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Bill history: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billinfo/bill_history.cfm?syear=2015&sind=0&body=H&type=B&bn=263 Signed in Senate 11-9 and off to the governor. 
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Posted: 11/12/2016 3:45:28 PM EDT
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So is it 10 calendar days or 10 biz days for it to go into effect, and when does the clock start?
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Posted: 11/12/2016 4:15:16 PM EDT
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So is it 10 calendar days or 10 biz days for it to go into effect, and when does the clock start? You still have to wait for Governor signature then the game commission to announce their rules. I think that's how it works. Don't expect to be able to use one this year. I've been wrong before so take it with a grain of salt. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 6:36:29 PM EDT
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You still have to wait for Governor signature then the game commission to announce their rules. I think that's how it works. Don't expect to be able to use one this year. I've been wrong before so take it with a grain of salt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So is it 10 calendar days or 10 biz days for it to go into effect, and when does the clock start? You still have to wait for Governor signature then the game commission to announce their rules. I think that's how it works. Don't expect to be able to use one this year. I've been wrong before so take it with a grain of salt. I know about waiting for the game commission but I gather bills become law in 10 days unless the governor vetoes it--he can choose not to sign it to be able to say he didn't without also being a dick and vetoing thus angering it's supporters. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 7:19:39 PM EDT
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I know about waiting for the game commission but I gather bills become law in 10 days unless the governor vetoes it--he can choose not to sign it to be able to say he didn't without also being a dick and vetoing thus angering it's supporters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So is it 10 calendar days or 10 biz days for it to go into effect, and when does the clock start? You still have to wait for Governor signature then the game commission to announce their rules. I think that's how it works. Don't expect to be able to use one this year. I've been wrong before so take it with a grain of salt. I know about waiting for the game commission but I gather bills become law in 10 days unless the governor vetoes it--he can choose not to sign it to be able to say he didn't without also being a dick and vetoing thus angering it's supporters. Oh, I see what you're saying now. |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 11:13:53 AM EDT
[#39]
I think its calendar days but I'm not certain.
Now, How do we start replacing Fudds on the PGC? |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 12:27:05 PM EDT
[#40]
Very good question. Who on our side wants the job is a first part of that.
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Posted: 11/21/2016 12:13:20 AM EDT
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Read the other day that this has been submitted to the Guv as of 11-14...
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Posted: 11/21/2016 4:36:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2016 5:38:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Awesome!
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Posted: 11/21/2016 5:39:15 PM EDT
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Edit: Double tap...
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Posted: 11/21/2016 8:06:49 PM EDT
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Cross posting from over in General - a couple more links for the hometown lurkers:
http://abc27.com/2016/11/21/gov-wolf-signs-bill-to-give-hunters-new-gun-options/ NRA-ILA Email: Today, Governor Tom Wolf signed House Bill 263 into law, making Pennsylvania the 49th state to allow semi-automatic rifle hunting. Please take a moment to thank your state Representative, your state Senator and Governor Wolf supporting this important legislation. HB 263, as amended, will eliminate the prohibition on semi-automatic rifles for hunting and allow for the Pennsylvania Game Commission to regulate these sporting rifles for all game species in accordance with season and bag limits. The use of semi-automatic shotguns for hunting has been legal for decades in the Keystone state; however, the use of semi-automatic rifles for hunting was prohibited in Pennsylvania as well as the neighboring state of Delaware. Semi-automatic rifles simply give hunters a much greater ability to fire a timely and accurate follow-up shot, which can be the huge difference between wounding or quickly taking a game animal. Larger calibers, including the popular .30-06 and larger, generate significant recoil that some shooters may not handle well. Gas-operated semi-automatics have less recoil, making them more user-friendly. Any thoughts to what kind of stance the PGC might take on it? |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 8:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cross posting from over in General - a couple more links for the hometown lurkers: http://abc27.com/2016/11/21/gov-wolf-signs-bill-to-give-hunters-new-gun-options/ NRA-ILA Email: Any thoughts to what kind of stance the PGC might take on it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Cross posting from over in General - a couple more links for the hometown lurkers: http://abc27.com/2016/11/21/gov-wolf-signs-bill-to-give-hunters-new-gun-options/ NRA-ILA Email: Today, Governor Tom Wolf signed House Bill 263 into law, making Pennsylvania the 49th state to allow semi-automatic rifle hunting. Please take a moment to thank your state Representative, your state Senator and Governor Wolf supporting this important legislation. HB 263, as amended, will eliminate the prohibition on semi-automatic rifles for hunting and allow for the Pennsylvania Game Commission to regulate these sporting rifles for all game species in accordance with season and bag limits. The use of semi-automatic shotguns for hunting has been legal for decades in the Keystone state; however, the use of semi-automatic rifles for hunting was prohibited in Pennsylvania as well as the neighboring state of Delaware. Semi-automatic rifles simply give hunters a much greater ability to fire a timely and accurate follow-up shot, which can be the huge difference between wounding or quickly taking a game animal. Larger calibers, including the popular .30-06 and larger, generate significant recoil that some shooters may not handle well. Gas-operated semi-automatics have less recoil, making them more user-friendly. Any thoughts to what kind of stance the PGC might take on it? Hard to say. The last time I dealt with them on anything like this (crossbows) it took what seemed like forever to get through to them but that was ten years ago. There are new players in the game now. You can read about some of the people that are in charge here: |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 9:15:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Great news for us PA residents. Now the next step for us should be legalizing Sunday hunting. Some of us work 6 days a week, including Saturdays, leaving us no time to hunt
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Posted: 11/21/2016 9:28:41 PM EDT
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Great news for us PA residents. Now the next step for us should be legalizing Sunday hunting. Some of us work 6 days a week, including Saturdays, leaving us no time to hunt Agree 100% |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 9:39:07 PM EDT
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Eta old post lol
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Posted: 11/22/2016 12:06:45 AM EDT
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Cross posting from over in General - a couple more links for the hometown lurkers: http://abc27.com/2016/11/21/gov-wolf-signs-bill-to-give-hunters-new-gun-options/ NRA-ILA Email: Any thoughts to what kind of stance the PGC might take on it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Cross posting from over in General - a couple more links for the hometown lurkers: http://abc27.com/2016/11/21/gov-wolf-signs-bill-to-give-hunters-new-gun-options/ NRA-ILA Email: Today, Governor Tom Wolf signed House Bill 263 into law, making Pennsylvania the 49th state to allow semi-automatic rifle hunting. Please take a moment to thank your state Representative, your state Senator and Governor Wolf supporting this important legislation. HB 263, as amended, will eliminate the prohibition on semi-automatic rifles for hunting and allow for the Pennsylvania Game Commission to regulate these sporting rifles for all game species in accordance with season and bag limits. The use of semi-automatic shotguns for hunting has been legal for decades in the Keystone state; however, the use of semi-automatic rifles for hunting was prohibited in Pennsylvania as well as the neighboring state of Delaware. Semi-automatic rifles simply give hunters a much greater ability to fire a timely and accurate follow-up shot, which can be the huge difference between wounding or quickly taking a game animal. Larger calibers, including the popular .30-06 and larger, generate significant recoil that some shooters may not handle well. Gas-operated semi-automatics have less recoil, making them more user-friendly. Any thoughts to what kind of stance the PGC might take on it? The general idea on the PAFOA forum and many other places (people talking with PGC higher ups).... is that the PGC will allow semi-autos for Coyote/ small game, but exclude the use for Deer and Bear. I think the PGC will give it at least a 1-2 year trial and then allow it for Deer. If PA licenses sales continue to decline, it could push the PGC to allow semi-autos sooner for Deer. I would LOVE to use my 300 BLK SBR for deer hunting. |
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