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Posted: 7/26/2014 10:20:24 PM EDT

Any info about southern butler or eastern westmorland would be great.

I am originally from Claysville (rural Washington county) and have been stuck in white oak for the past 7 years. I'm Trying to get out of Allegheny county. I work in Glenshaw just NE of the city. Washington county is out because I hate the city and do not what to commute through it every day. I grew up in western pa and I know absolutely nothing about north or east of the city (Butler/Westmoreland county). My goals are to keep my commute to 1 hour and be able to shoot on my property. Good schools are also a plus but anywhere would be an automatic upgrade.

Posted: 7/26/2014 10:53:48 PM EDT

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I don't know about schools and enough property for shooting, but I'd start my search in like Mars or Saxonburg. Saxonburg would probably be more likely to have enough land shooting.

Posted: 7/27/2014 10:30:15 AM EDT

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In Washington I could shoot from my house with 1.5 acres. It had woods and a hill behind to act as a back stop plus neighbors who didnt mind and would participate in shooting every once in a while. Hoping to find something similar hopefully with some more land. going to look today at 5 acres in saxonburg. will be my first trip up there so hopefully I like the area!

Posted: 7/27/2014 2:35:23 PM EDT

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Mars is pretty nice too.

Buy close to Rt 228 and you can jump on it to rt 8 to get to work.

Be wary of the gas rights attached to a property. if it is being sold with rights, that's worth about a one time payment of $5000 per acre if you lease on with a gas company. Royalties after the drilling vary, but 18% is a good rule of thumb. That's worth a couple hundred a month for the first 1-3 years of production per acre and around $100 after that up to about 15 years or so. some wells last much less, some more. its a gamble.

If the property already has a lease contract and you buy the property with rights, don't expect the well company to give you that initial $5000 sign on bonus, you will only get the royalties payment.

Whatever you do regarding the gas wells and the contracts, consult a Leasing services expert.

That whole area up there is being drilled or is in the initial stages of exploration.

Posted: 7/27/2014 5:50:25 PM EDT

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Buy close to Rt 228 and you can jump on it to rt 8 to get to work.

Be wary of the gas rights attached to a property. if it is being sold with rights, that's worth about a one time payment of $5000 per acre if you lease on with a gas company. Royalties after the drilling vary, but 18% is a good rule of thumb. That's worth a couple hundred a month for the first 1-3 years of production per acre and around $100 after that up to about 15 years or so. some wells last much less, some more. its a gamble.

If the property already has a lease contract and you buy the property with rights, don't expect the well company to give you that initial $5000 sign on bonus, you will only get the royalties payment.

Whatever you do regarding the gas wells and the contracts, consult a Leasing services expert.

That whole area up there is being drilled or is in the initial stages of exploration.

Just left a place out that way. 5 acres surrounded by rolling pastures and woods. Absolutely loved it. Then the agent said no mineral rights with the property. Heart breaking. Asking why. She beats around the bush and says they aren't drilling near there. I say maybe not now but they will be for sure in the near future. After calling her out she says I'm not supposed to disclose the but they are getting $4/month royalties. Anyways I am meeting with the owner Tuesday to walk property since listing agent didn't know where it ended. Gunna ask him about the rights and try persuade him to let them go.

Posted: 7/27/2014 6:34:13 PM EDT

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Mars is pretty nice too.

Buy close to Rt 228 and you can jump on it to rt 8 to get to work.

Be wary of the gas rights attached to a property. if it is being sold with rights, that's worth about a one time payment of $5000 per acre if you lease on with a gas company. Royalties after the drilling vary, but 18% is a good rule of thumb. That's worth a couple hundred a month for the first 1-3 years of production per acre and around $100 after that up to about 15 years or so. some wells last much less, some more. its a gamble.

If the property already has a lease contract and you buy the property with rights, don't expect the well company to give you that initial $5000 sign on bonus, you will only get the royalties payment.

Whatever you do regarding the gas wells and the contracts, consult a Leasing services expert.

That whole area up there is being drilled or is in the initial stages of exploration.

Just left a place out that way. 5 acres surrounded by rolling pastures and woods. Absolutely loved it. Then the agent said no mineral rights with the property. Heart breaking. Asking why. She beats around the bush and says they aren't drilling near there. I say maybe not now but they will be for sure in the near future. After calling her out she says I'm not supposed to disclose the but they are getting $4/month royalties. Anyways I am meeting with the owner Tuesday to walk property since listing agent didn't know where it ended. Gunna ask him about the rights and try persuade him to let them go.

did you say Four Dollars a month? that's not Marcellus shale gas.... they are still leased on with a company for the shallow well gas.... problem with that is, that company holds the rights even if a driller comes into the area and finds a play of Marcellus gas. it gets complicated....This shit is available at the courthouse. It is public record.

Posted: 7/27/2014 9:07:17 PM EDT

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Mars is pretty nice too.

Buy close to Rt 228 and you can jump on it to rt 8 to get to work.

Be wary of the gas rights attached to a property. if it is being sold with rights, that's worth about a one time payment of $5000 per acre if you lease on with a gas company. Royalties after the drilling vary, but 18% is a good rule of thumb. That's worth a couple hundred a month for the first 1-3 years of production per acre and around $100 after that up to about 15 years or so. some wells last much less, some more. its a gamble.

If the property already has a lease contract and you buy the property with rights, don't expect the well company to give you that initial $5000 sign on bonus, you will only get the royalties payment.

Whatever you do regarding the gas wells and the contracts, consult a Leasing services expert.

That whole area up there is being drilled or is in the initial stages of exploration.

Just left a place out that way. 5 acres surrounded by rolling pastures and woods. Absolutely loved it. Then the agent said no mineral rights with the property. Heart breaking. Asking why. She beats around the bush and says they aren't drilling near there. I say maybe not now but they will be for sure in the near future. After calling her out she says I'm not supposed to disclose the but they are getting $4/month royalties. Anyways I am meeting with the owner Tuesday to walk property since listing agent didn't know where it ended. Gunna ask him about the rights and try persuade him to let them go.

did you say Four Dollars a month? that's not Marcellus shale gas.... they are still leased on with a company for the shallow well gas.... problem with that is, that company holds the rights even if a driller comes into the area and finds a play of Marcellus gas. it gets complicated....This shit is available at the courthouse. It is public record.

Don't think she knew much about anything. Current owners parents own the farm next door. I Could see atleast 100 acres of fenced pastures. not sure how much they actually own but it's possible they hold the rights. Gunna have to dig deeper and see what info he will give me Tuesday. What scares me the most isn't about loosing royalties. It's about them putting a future well on my property destroying half of it in the process.

Posted: 7/27/2014 9:25:50 PM EDT

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