 D-RAS03
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Posted: 4/5/2011 12:19:34 AM
[Last Edit: 1/4/2013 12:12:09 AM by D-RAS03]
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Posted: 4/5/2011 12:25:28 AM
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Posted: 4/5/2011 3:01:03 PM
Thank you that was a huge help! |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 6:33:10 PM
One thing I didn't see was is printing illegal? And what about if my pistol shows? Like my shirt rode up. Thanks
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Posted: 4/5/2011 7:15:52 PM
Open Carry is Legal in PA, we don't have any laws reguarding how concealed the gun must be. PERIOD!
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Posted: 4/5/2011 7:27:02 PM
Originally Posted By RenegadePhoenix:
Open Carry is Legal in PA, we don't have any laws reguarding how concealed the gun must be. PERIOD! Thanks again for your help. I know this a stupid question but I was told a few years back that if you carry concealed and your gun shows it would be concederd brandishing. Is that completly false? Sorry I just want to make sure I get everything 100% correct. |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 7:40:22 PM
Incidental exposure of your normally concealed weapon isn't prohibited
in Pennsylvania. Unlike some states where exposing translates to
"brandishing", we have neither defined in PA that I know of. From what I
understand (read: I'm not an attorney) rather than "brandishing" our
laws focus on threats of violence that involve removing the weapon from
the holster and/or waving it around. You know, actual threats rather
than implied ones.
 That's how county sheriffs and local PD explained it, anyway. Again, not a legal eagle here so I may be oversimplifying things. |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 8:23:42 PM
Thanks for your help
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Posted: 4/5/2011 9:58:50 PM
[Last Edit: 4/5/2011 10:01:07 PM by nickds]
Not to hijack, but on the same thought....where can I find the specific info regarding carrying in State Parks. (I have the UFA and the part from the Commonwealth constitution on firearms....but I have yet to see anything regarding parks.)
ETA: I did see in the linked thread that you must conceal and possess a valid LTCF, however....I am looking for any literal literature. Thanks |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 10:17:04 PM
Originally Posted By nickds:
Not to hijack, but on the same thought....where can I find the specific info regarding carrying in State Parks. (I have the UFA and the part from the Commonwealth constitution on firearms....but I have yet to see anything regarding parks.) ETA: I did see in the linked thread that you must conceal and possess a valid LTCF, however....I am looking for any literal literature. Thanks What is that? And where can I find it? |
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Posted: 4/6/2011 8:03:14 AM
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Posted: 4/6/2011 3:05:45 PM
You learn something new everyday on here. I did not know this one. I had a experience like this. I was walking my Beagle on a leash, and a female pitbull ran out of a friends home and attacked my dog. I was able to get my beagle up out of range of the dog, and the dog is lucky it was a friend of mines as well as my dog wasnt injured or I would of shot her ass. So now I know if some morons pit or other dog is attacking my dog while i am walking him.
Dog Attacks: It is legal to kill a dog that is pursuing or attacking a pet, a domesticated animal, or human. - Title 3, Chapter 8, Article V, Subsection 459-501. It is also legal to kill any dog that is chasing or attacking big game(turkey, bear, elk, deer) - Title 34, Chapter 23, Subchapter E, Section 2385 |
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Posted: 4/6/2011 4:01:31 PM
I think something like this should be tacked. I found a lot of stuff I didn't know.
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Posted: 4/6/2011 5:33:06 PM
Information is empowerment.
Keep it flowing! Thanks everyone! |
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Posted: 4/9/2011 3:28:59 AM
If any one has the state laws on carrying a fix blade it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Posted: 4/10/2011 12:52:19 AM
Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
If any one has the state laws on carrying a fix blade it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks +1 I get a differnt answer each time I ask LE |
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Posted: 4/14/2011 9:31:16 PM
[Last Edit: 10/20/2011 10:34:25 PM by D-RAS03]
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184
This site shows all the Firearm Reciprocity Agreements. Sorry I can't hotlink with my phone. |
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Posted: 4/20/2011 12:44:44 PM
Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
Originally Posted By Steve_in_PA:
There is no pre-emption for knifes, so any city/town/borough can make a law saying a knife with "X" blade length it illegal. In other words, in City A, you might not get a second look. But go to City B, and you could be arrested. Would there have to be a written law for said town or could the cop just arrest you for it? ETA: How would one find out if a town had a law against a blade length? Originally Posted By Steve_in_PA:
Yes the towns would have a written ordinance. The only way you would know is to stop in each town and ask. |
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Posted: 4/23/2011 5:46:29 PM
Originally Posted By nickds:
Not to hijack, but on the same thought....where can I find the specific info regarding carrying in State Parks. (I have the UFA and the part from the Commonwealth constitution on firearms....but I have yet to see anything regarding parks.) ETA: I did see in the linked thread that you must conceal and possess a valid LTCF, however....I am looking for any literal literature. Thanks No need to conceal. That information is 100% false. |
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Posted: 4/24/2011 12:18:52 PM
[Last Edit: 4/24/2011 4:51:43 PM by D-RAS03]
Originally Posted By Justin3:
Originally Posted By nickds:
Not to hijack, but on the same thought....where can I find the specific info regarding carrying in State Parks. (I have the UFA and the part from the Commonwealth constitution on firearms....but I have yet to see anything regarding parks.) ETA: I did see in the linked thread that you must conceal and possess a valid LTCF, however....I am looking for any literal literature. Thanks No need to conceal. That information is 100% false. Could you please provide some proof justin3? |
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Posted: 4/24/2011 3:34:29 PM
[Last Edit: 4/24/2011 3:40:07 PM by nickds]
Really? ETA: PAFOA is pretty good about conferring accurate information, |
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Posted: 4/27/2011 7:53:10 PM
Really? No documentation? We are not talking about hunting either.
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Posted: 4/28/2011 7:52:21 PM
[Last Edit: 4/28/2011 7:53:18 PM by Justin3]
Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
Originally Posted By Justin3:
Originally Posted By nickds:
Not to hijack, but on the same thought....where can I find the specific info regarding carrying in State Parks. (I have the UFA and the part from the Commonwealth constitution on firearms....but I have yet to see anything regarding parks.) ETA: I did see in the linked thread that you must conceal and possess a valid LTCF, however....I am looking for any literal literature. Thanks No need to conceal. That information is 100% false. Could you please provide some proof justin3? I will do my best, but it is difficult to prove when you are allowed to do something. Kind of like me asking you to prove that you are allowed to mow your lawn. You are allowed to do it unless there is a specific statute making it illegal. First avenue of proof can be found in the 2009 Pennsylvania Municipal Police Officers’ Education & Training Commission (MPOETC) Update, of which the relevant section can be found here IX. UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT UPDATE: “OPEN CARRY” Question #1 - What is “open carry”? Answer #1 - Open carry can be defined as carrying a legal firearm, loaded or unloaded, on your person unconcealed, with or without a valid and lawfully issued license to carry a firearm. Question #2 - Is “open carry” legal in Pennsylvania? Answer #2 – Yes, but with several exceptions: The Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act is silent on the specific issue of open carry. §6106 only prohibits carrying a firearm in a vehicle or concealed on or about one’s person, except in the person’s place of abode or fixed place of business, without a license and when no exemption applies. Second means of "proof" can be found on the paopencarry.org site. here There is no stipulation in neither the PA code nor case law that a PA LTCF holder must carry concealed
Third, read through the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes("list of laws" in laymans terms) If there isn't a statute prohibiting something, then it is "allowed" I've never understood why anyone would ask someone to "prove that something is legal" .... But I've done my best to do so. I don't really care what any of you do or think about carrying weapons, or even what you believe to be right/wrong. I'd just ask that you do not spread false information through the Pennsylvania gun owner community. |
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Posted: 4/29/2011 10:44:08 PM
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 4:09:07 PM by nickds]
I was curious about the issue as it related to State Parks only.
Firearms regualtions are often a convoluted and confusing topic. I am always happy to hear from someone else. ETA: From two days of searching I have been unable to find any definitative info. I will concede that I was mistaken. It is often difficult to find accurate information. Thanks for your help in the process. |
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Posted: 5/5/2011 9:35:42 PM
Originally Posted By nickds:
I was curious about the issue as it related to State Parks only. Firearms regualtions are often a convoluted and confusing topic. I am always happy to hear from someone else. ETA: From two days of searching I have been unable to find any definitative info. I will concede that I was mistaken. It is often difficult to find accurate information. Thanks for your help in the process. No problem. I was a little irate as I've argued this same topic with a few people, both online on here, and IRL over the last week. I'm glad to help to inform you. As far as state parks go, that is one specific that I didn't touch. You must conceal in state parks, and can only do so if you have a LTCF. This info can be found in 18 Pa CSA 6109(m.2), Inconsistent provisions.––Notwithstanding the provisions of section 7506 (relating to violation of rules regarding conduct on Commonwealth property), 75 Pa.C.S. § 7727 (relating to additional limitations on operation) or the act of June 28, 1995 (P.L. 89, No. 18), [FN3] known as the Conservation and Natural Resources Act, and regulations promulgated under that act, a firearm may be carried as provided in subsection (a) by:
(1) a law enforcement officer whose current identification as a law enforcement officer shall be construed as a valid license to carry a firearm; or (2) any licensee. And take specific notice above of the subsection (a) reference: (a) Purpose of license.––A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's person or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.
An excellent resource would be this thread. specifically the first post. It lists everything very accurately. You'll find citations of most of the relevant statutes throughout the thread. |
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Posted: 5/6/2011 7:43:46 AM
[Last Edit: 5/6/2011 7:46:37 AM by nickds]
Nice. Exactly what I was saying originally.
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