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Welcome!!! Now go into town to El Camino and get a zappy burger with green sauce.
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I almost bought 160 acres in St John about 2010ish. Kick myself in the ass every week for not doing it.
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asking GD for advice on cops is like asking a pedophile advice on raising children
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Tagging for updates and welcome to AZ!
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"Some folks should just stick with Glocks.....pistols for the mechanically inept."- gwitness
RIP Grin! 10/09/2015 NorCal_LEO issued nickname: Tombstone |
Welcome.
Too bad we're not in Europe, then you could get an 8 ft container for your shed. |
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Slight change of plans. Instead of getting a container and shed I bought a 10x20 lofted barn. It should be large enough to hold all my stuff while I build the house and then be converted to either a shop or guest quarters. For $5,400 delivered I couldn't pass it up. That's well under the cost of the shed plus can, and has much more curb appeal. It's supposed to be here in 7 to ten days. Just enough time to get an area flattened for it.
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Do you have water on site? If no well what is the depth for finding water in your area? I ask because a lot of places in AZ have no water or very deep aquifers making wells impossible. Shipping in water to live on is not the best plan in my opinion.
Best of luck and stop by the home town shoot in October to meet some of the crew. |
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Tough times breed strong people, Strong people create good times, Good times breed weak people, Weak people create tough times
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Maybe I missed it, but how much land did you get up there? This thread lit a fire under my ass to find land for camping and whatnot.
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asking GD for advice on cops is like asking a pedophile advice on raising children
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Originally Posted By PHOENIX13:
Maybe I missed it, but how much land did you get up there? This thread lit a fire under my ass to find land for camping and whatnot. View Quote I have 75 acres. The biggest selling point for me was that it's bordered on two sides by BLM land, so it's almost like having 1,350 acres all to myself. The private lots on the other two sides are vacant, so there are no neighbors to contend with. My lot is shaped like Utah, or it would be 80 acres. The south and west are BLM and the east and north are private. It slopes down very slightly from the north west to the south east -- about 20' over the whole distance. The Little Colorado river valley and White Mountains are to the south east, giving me a GREAT view. ETA: Bare land in this area is stupid cheap, but don't plan on having ANY utilities, EVER. There are lots that have utilities, but the price goes up, of course. Now for the shameless plug. If you're looking anywhere around St. Johns, talk to Pattie at Mountain Valley Realty. She really knows the area and knows how to make great deals. She got me the land for $2,000 less than I was going to offer. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
What about cell service on your land?
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Originally Posted By CSNeoM4A1:
What about cell service on your land? View Quote Cell service and Internet are good. Not great, but good enough. There's a Verizon tower about six miles away and line-of-sight, so I'm getting four bars even inside the tin box. You have to be careful though. There are lots of places where service is bad to nonexistent. I checked service with both phone and the Jetpack before signing the contract. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
I know exactly around where you are. Looked at some large plots there back in fall of 2014.
Ended up purchasing a smaller plot 10 miles outside of Show Low instead. Was already gridded for electricity, and capable of digging my own well on site - as well as a community well. Your posts are making me realize how much I can't wait to start building on it. Best of luck to you. |
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"They are not men. They are weapons."
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Nice place OP. Do you have any plans to do anything with the land or just leave it as is?
Any plan for a garden? I imagine that would be kind of tough having to haul water and what not but might be doable if you recycle your grey water and catch rain water. If you need a bigger tank for hauling water, I've got a 500 gallon tank I could give you a good deal on. |
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Welcome, OP. Very cool venture you have going. Good luck!
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Hatred of the state is love of humanity.
"Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." -H.L. Mencken |
When you get your tank setup if you've never done a pump/pressure tank setup and want to let me know. I lived on haul water the entire time I lived north of AJ.
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Originally Posted By JC10311:
Slight change of plans. Instead of getting a container and shed I bought a 10x20 lofted barn. It should be large enough to hold all my stuff while I build the house and then be converted to either a shop or guest quarters. For $5,400 delivered I couldn't pass it up. That's well under the cost of the shed plus can, and has much more curb appeal. It's supposed to be here in 7 to ten days. Just enough time to get an area flattened for it. View Quote I'd definitely like to see pics of the shed when you get it. That seems like a good price, was it a private sale or a local company? |
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Originally Posted By AR-SNIPER-15:
I'd definitely like to see pics of the shed when you get it. That seems like a good price, was it a private sale or a local company? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR-SNIPER-15:
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Slight change of plans. Instead of getting a container and shed I bought a 10x20 lofted barn. It should be large enough to hold all my stuff while I build the house and then be converted to either a shop or guest quarters. For $5,400 delivered I couldn't pass it up. That's well under the cost of the shed plus can, and has much more curb appeal. It's supposed to be here in 7 to ten days. Just enough time to get an area flattened for it. I'd definitely like to see pics of the shed when you get it. That seems like a good price, was it a private sale or a local company? Local is a relative term. I bought it off the lot in Show Low from Arizona Portable Buildings. It's 100 miles away, but that's about the closest I could find one. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Nice place OP. Do you have any plans to do anything with the land or just leave it as is? Any plan for a garden? I imagine that would be kind of tough having to haul water and what not but might be doable if you recycle your grey water and catch rain water. If you need a bigger tank for hauling water, I've got a 500 gallon tank I could give you a good deal on. View Quote I do plan on having a garden, but that's about it. Other than a 1,000 yard range, of course. I agree on using gray water for the garden and other outdoor purposes. I've planned to have a spit system in the house so that gray water can go to a cistern and black water can drain onto my neighbor's land. JUST KIDDING! |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Originally Posted By JC10311:
I do plan on having a garden, but that's about it. Other than a 1,000 yard range, of course. I agree on using gray water for the garden and other outdoor purposes. I've planned to have a spit system in the house so that gray water can go to a cistern and black water can drain onto my neighbor's land. JUST KIDDING! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Nice place OP. Do you have any plans to do anything with the land or just leave it as is? Any plan for a garden? I imagine that would be kind of tough having to haul water and what not but might be doable if you recycle your grey water and catch rain water. If you need a bigger tank for hauling water, I've got a 500 gallon tank I could give you a good deal on. I do plan on having a garden, but that's about it. Other than a 1,000 yard range, of course. I agree on using gray water for the garden and other outdoor purposes. I've planned to have a spit system in the house so that gray water can go to a cistern and black water can drain onto my neighbor's land. JUST KIDDING! Look into a constructed wetland if you want to attract game and put the black water to use. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_wetland |
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Welcome to Arizona!
When are you going to invite us up to your land to add some lead to it? |
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Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
When you get your tank setup if you've never done a pump/pressure tank setup and want to let me know. I lived on haul water the entire time I lived north of AJ. View Quote The last two houses I've built had wells, so I'm pretty familiar with pumps and tanks, but thanks for the offer. I'm already exhausted trying to get all this crap done in ten days. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Look into a constructed wetland if you want to attract game and put the black water to use. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_wetland View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Nice place OP. Do you have any plans to do anything with the land or just leave it as is? Any plan for a garden? I imagine that would be kind of tough having to haul water and what not but might be doable if you recycle your grey water and catch rain water. If you need a bigger tank for hauling water, I've got a 500 gallon tank I could give you a good deal on. I do plan on having a garden, but that's about it. Other than a 1,000 yard range, of course. I agree on using gray water for the garden and other outdoor purposes. I've planned to have a spit system in the house so that gray water can go to a cistern and black water can drain onto my neighbor's land. JUST KIDDING! Look into a constructed wetland if you want to attract game and put the black water to use. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_wetland Very interesting. Dealing with black water has been the stickiest problem. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Here's a stock pic of the building on the lot. I'll take interior pics when I get the building.
The Barn |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Very interesting. Dealing with black water has been the stickiest problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By Tim_McBride:
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
Nice place OP. Do you have any plans to do anything with the land or just leave it as is? Any plan for a garden? I imagine that would be kind of tough having to haul water and what not but might be doable if you recycle your grey water and catch rain water. If you need a bigger tank for hauling water, I've got a 500 gallon tank I could give you a good deal on. I do plan on having a garden, but that's about it. Other than a 1,000 yard range, of course. I agree on using gray water for the garden and other outdoor purposes. I've planned to have a spit system in the house so that gray water can go to a cistern and black water can drain onto my neighbor's land. JUST KIDDING! Look into a constructed wetland if you want to attract game and put the black water to use. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_wetland Very interesting. Dealing with black water has been the stickiest problem. Essentially: Black Water -> Septic style tank ->1st wet land pond -> (Grey Water comes in ) 2nd Wet Land Pond - > Garden. The Wet land ponds take the place of the leech field in a traditional septic. If you have to deal with permitting, approach it to them as 'eco-friendly' 'water conservation' |
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Welcome to AZ, keep the photos coming!
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Bastard!!! You didn't tell me that the main ingredient was Ex-Lax!!! It tasted great , but didn't stay around long. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By freeride21a:
Welcome!!! Now go into town to El Camino and get a zappy burger with green sauce. Bastard!!! You didn't tell me that the main ingredient was Ex-Lax!!! It tasted great , but didn't stay around long. LOL sorry.. I did not have the same experience that you did. For sure though, it is a high fat, high calorie meal. IIRC it is named after a guy who used to work at the power plant there, Coronado Generating Station(CGS), who would customize his order every time till the just put it on the menu. I used to work for SRP down here in the valley, who runs the plant there, and went there for IT stuffs. |
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Originally Posted By freeride21a:
LOL sorry.. I did not have the same experience that you did. For sure though, it is a high fat, high calorie meal. IIRC it is named after a guy who used to work at the power plant there, Coronado Generating Station(CGS), who would customize his order every time till the just put it on the menu. I used to work for SRP down here in the valley, who runs the plant there, and went there for IT stuffs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By freeride21a:
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By freeride21a:
Welcome!!! Now go into town to El Camino and get a zappy burger with green sauce. Bastard!!! You didn't tell me that the main ingredient was Ex-Lax!!! It tasted great , but didn't stay around long. LOL sorry.. I did not have the same experience that you did. For sure though, it is a high fat, high calorie meal. IIRC it is named after a guy who used to work at the power plant there, Coronado Generating Station(CGS), who would customize his order every time till the just put it on the menu. I used to work for SRP down here in the valley, who runs the plant there, and went there for IT stuffs. FAT?! I thought those were chunks of Tofu. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Very cool OP, glad you're here.
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Have any hills? I'd cut a backstop into one.
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asking GD for advice on cops is like asking a pedophile advice on raising children
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cool breakdown of your power system.
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AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!
I pulled a bone-headed mistake when installing the system. I reversed the polarity from the battery bank to the inverter. The 250 amp main circuit breaker is TOAST, and it looks like it looks like it destroyed the charging circuit in the inverter. The inverter side still works, but the monitor shows 0.00 amps from and to the batteries. Screw me! Stupid, stupid, stupid, and I suspect expensive. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Originally Posted By JC10311:
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!! I pulled a bone-headed mistake when installing the system. I reversed the polarity from the battery bank to the inverter. The 250 amp main circuit breaker is TOAST, and it looks like it looks like it destroyed the charging circuit in the inverter. The inverter side still works, but the monitor shows 0.00 amps from and to the batteries. Screw me! Stupid, stupid, stupid, and I suspect expensive. View Quote Ouch... |
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Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
I'm doing it for the children. I want to flood the streets with military grade weapons. |
The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
This is very cool !!! Keep up with the pics!
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Self-proclaimed rookie of the year-2013
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Are you south of St. Johns? The only terrain the looks like that is towards Lyman Lake and west towards Concho.
BikerScout Sunny AZ |
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Arizona! Where our Cactus Jumps, and Worms Rattle
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asking GD for advice on cops is like asking a pedophile advice on raising children
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
We're having a hometown shoot in a month if you're up to traveling to central AZ and would like to meet some of us
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RIP Grin! 10/09/2015
NorCal_LEO issued nickname: Tombstone |
FRRRREEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! 75 acres have you? Have M79/M203, Will Travel! |
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Is it that we have so often been told that violence is not the answer to everything that we fail to realize it IS the answer to some things?
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Originally Posted By GSL:
We're having a hometown shoot in a month if you're up to traveling to central AZ and would like to meet some of us View Quote Unfortunately, I'll be back in St. Louis for 30 days to close up the apartment and get all the rest of my stuff packed for the move. My final departure from Fergudeshu will be on October 17'th with arrival back here on Oct. 20th. I will certainly host something here once I get moved in. With BLM land to the west and south, it's like having 1,300+ acres to play on. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Awesome - please keep updating!
I've considered buying some land out that way. What's your take on crime out there? I've heard of hooligans out there vandalizing and stealing from unattended properties. I'd like to build a cabin out there, but won't be able to be there full time for a number of years. I'd love to buy something like this: http://www.landsofamerica.com/property/179-CR-N7104-Richville-Arizona-85936/3379104 |
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Originally Posted By IndiaPaleAle:
Awesome - please keep updating! I've considered buying some land out that way. What's your take on crime out there? I've heard of hooligans out there vandalizing and stealing from unattended properties. I'd like to build a cabin out there, but won't be able to be there full time for a number of years. I'd love to buy something like this: http://www.landsofamerica.com/property/179-CR-N7104-Richville-Arizona-85936/3379104 View Quote I was worried about crime as well, but I haven't heard of anything on the ranch. Lot 179 is pretty deep into the ranch, but the plus side is that the community well would be fairly close. If you're serious I'd be happy to scout out the lot and post some pics. Be aware that the POA does have a restriction on "excessive shooting." I don't know what that means, but step across the road and you're on BLM land where no one can stop you. Same for me. The south and west sides of my property adjoin BLM land. The POA does a reasonably good job of keeping up the roads. They pay more attention to roads where there are permanent residents. ETA: I highly recommend Patti Rabbi at Mountain Valley Realty. She saved me a ton ($2,000) on my property. She really knows the area and is a no BS kind of person. ETAM: If you IM me an e-mail or e-mail me, I'll send you the whole ranch lot map. |
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The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
Karl Marx [Sound like anyone you know???] |
Tag.
I get to retire in 9 years and something like this is the plan. |
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Originally Posted By JC10311:
Today was VERY expensive, but the driveway and a gravel pad to put the barn on are DONE! The driveway is 150 yards long and 10' wide (mostly). The barn pad is 20' x 30'. Before: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91514 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91515 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91517 And . . . the work begins: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91519 http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91518 The barn pad begins: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91520 One more load to go: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=91523 It was getting dark when they were done, so I'll get a final pic tomorrow morning. 70 tons of crushed basalt total went in. Problems with the first tractor delayed the project for a couple of hours. Now I'm just waiting for the barn to be delivered. Hopefully next Tuesday or earlier. View Quote What was the cost, if you don't mind? Thanks. |
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