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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:04:31 PM EDT
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Also related:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/bikers-plan-armed-anti-islamist-protest-outside-terrorist-mosque-in-az/ And here we go, facebook event page too. https://www.facebook.com/events/1630892790456240/ |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:49:05 PM EDT
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If only I could draw worth a damn.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 2:13:34 PM EDT
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Also related: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/bikers-plan-armed-anti-islamist-protest-outside-terrorist-mosque-in-az/ And here we go, facebook event page too. https://www.facebook.com/events/1630892790456240/ He could have atleast bought a better holster |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:03:34 PM EDT
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Maybe i should call in sick & show off my drawing skillz tomorrow.
Hummmmmmmm.... |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:23:48 PM EDT
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R stick figures allowed. I had a dream and I saw Muhammad as a Popeye type figure with a beard.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 3:37:01 PM EDT
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No agenda in that news feed
 ... Lets appease those who would kill over a cartoon.. How about we shame and belittle the asshole coming to kill rather than the cartoonist.. Good to see people taking a stand against this crap. Freedom is scary folks, giving up rights to appease the specific groups of people is terrifying. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 5:16:01 PM EDT
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That news feed, there is some serious fuckery going on right now.
And lol at the muslims saying it isn't free speech, lol
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:55:08 PM EDT
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Maybe i should call in sick & show off my drawing skillz tomorrow. Hummmmmmmm.... Do it! take pictures and report back |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:59:21 PM EDT
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Maybe i should call in sick & show off my drawing skillz tomorrow. Hummmmmmmm.... Do it! take pictures and report back Why Friday? Saturday no problem, but Friday. I Already took a day off last week! Why Friday?! Some of us gotz to work u know mr. Biker guy! 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:03:02 PM EDT
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I messaged an old .mil buddy to see if he is free tomorrow. If he is down I might go but I'm not willing to go without someone I trust who is armed watching my back. Maybe this sounds paranoid but I would be surprised if violent muslims/islamists didn't show up tomorrow. If nothing else if I'm free tomorrow I'll try to drive by the area and take some cell phone camera pictures. I'm guessing the FBI will be all over this, I know they have been in this area lot recently since the two guys who shot up the last Mohammed drawing contest were from this congregation.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:21:39 PM EDT
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I messaged an old .mil buddy to see if he is free tomorrow. If he is down I might go but I'm not willing to go without someone I trust who is armed watching my back. Maybe this sounds paranoid but I would be surprised if violent muslims/islamists didn't show up tomorrow. If nothing else if I'm free tomorrow I'll try to drive by the area and take some cell phone camera pictures. I'm guessing the FBI will be all over this, I know they have been in this area lot recently since the two guys who shot up the last Mohammed drawing contest were from this congregation. If I was able to go, I would be CCW both a 1911 & HK USP .45 & a TON of mags & ammo in a pack on my back. This would have made a perfect weekend. Cartoon contest, & if I lived through it, then the Rio Salado 2 gun event on Sunday. Man, don't bikers know about this thing called the "Weekend"?! |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 8:17:56 PM EDT
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Akin to walking around South Phx holding signs stating, "I hate (pick a racial slur)"
Freedom is freedom, but don't be surprised at the response of people willing to blow themselves up for theological beliefs. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 9:22:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2015 10:08:01 PM EDT
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Why Friday? Saturday no problem, but Friday. I Already took a day off last week! Why Friday?! Some of us gotz to work u know mr. Biker guy! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe i should call in sick & show off my drawing skillz tomorrow. Hummmmmmmm.... Do it! take pictures and report back Why Friday? Saturday no problem, but Friday. I Already took a day off last week! Why Friday?! Some of us gotz to work u know mr. Biker guy! They worship on Fridays. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 10:37:33 PM EDT
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Akin to walking around South Phx holding signs stating, "I hate (pick a racial slur)" Freedom is freedom, but don't be surprised at the response of people willing to blow themselves up for theological beliefs. They already got the dude with the explosives... 
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:05:37 PM EDT
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Maybe i should call in sick & show off my drawing skillz tomorrow. Hummmmmmmm.... Do it! take pictures and report back Why Friday? Saturday no problem, but Friday. I Already took a day off last week! Why Friday?! Some of us gotz to work u know mr. Biker guy! They worship on Fridays. Oh. Just bad timing for me i guess. |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:09:25 PM EDT
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Whomever goes, give us an AAR when you get back, and don't forget to smile for the FBI's cameras
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:31:44 PM EDT
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Maybe i should call in sick & show off my drawing skillz tomorrow. Hummmmmmmm.... Do it! take pictures and report back Why Friday? Saturday no problem, but Friday. I Already took a day off last week! Why Friday?! Some of us gotz to work u know mr. Biker guy! They worship on Fridays. Yep. Friday is their equivalent of our Sunday. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 8:23:07 AM EDT
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Well, might as well start the day off right since today is THE day:
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Posted: 5/29/2015 10:13:40 AM EDT
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Trying to gather a few friends to go after work but it is not looking so good.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 1:36:08 PM EDT
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DHS has warned us to "stay away". (Because after all, Islam is THE Religion of Peace). My ass. 
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:00:52 PM EDT
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Islamism's have replied to this event
CoC prevents me from saying anything further but shit like this makes my blood boil. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 2:32:49 PM EDT
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I'm from Texas, but gonna keep an eye on the AZ forum for this event.
Did this mosque or any members ever come out and condemn the Garland attacks or otherwise put out a statement? |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 3:21:01 PM EDT
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I'm from Texas, but gonna keep an eye on the AZ forum for this event. Did this mosque or any members ever come out and condemn the Garland attacks or otherwise put out a statement? According to the organizer, they did. http://iccpaz.com/iccp-condemns-isis/ |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 4:13:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:04:08 PM EDT
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I would like to attend this event, but its hard for me to get behind. Much like ISIS uses religion to "validate" their actions, I am inclined to believe that Jon is using the 1st amendment to "validate" this event.
BTW, by "validate," I mean hide behind. Anybody else get this feeling? Still may go and lay low from a good vantage point anyways, who knows. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:34:34 PM EDT
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I would like to attend this event, but its hard for me to get behind. Much like ISIS uses religion to "validate" their actions, I am inclined to believe that Jon is using the 1st amendment to "validate" this event. BTW, by "validate," I mean hide behind. Anybody else get this feeling? Still may go and lay low from a good vantage point anyways, who knows. After putting up with almost two decades of Islamism's and Radicals Muslims committing terrorist attacks, threatening, killing, raping, and intimidating anyone who they deem is in their way I don't feel bad for them at all and I will support a bunch of pissed off veterans standing up for what they believe in any day. I don't care if it isn't tactful. Cutting off peoples heads isn't tactful either. I think it's about time we show them that shit don't fly in the USA instead of letting them walk all over us in the name of being politically correct. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 5:55:47 PM EDT
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@Reservist
I agree, but why sink to their level? Do they not have the same rights we have? Freedom of religion. Just like Christians that murder people, there are bad apples in the Muslim faith. I'm torn on this issue to be perfectly honest. To assume ALL Muslims are terrorists and murderers is flat out wrong. Do all Catholics molest children? Of course not. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:00:01 PM EDT
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No one is infringing on their right to practice their religion.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:35:38 PM EDT
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@Reservist I agree, but why sink to their level? Do they not have the same rights we have? Freedom of religion. Just like Christians that murder people, there are bad apples in the Muslim faith. I'm torn on this issue to be perfectly honest. To assume ALL Muslims are terrorists and murderers is flat out wrong. Do all Catholics molest children? Of course not. This is about us saying no more, we will be heard, we will not hide, and we will stand up for ourselves. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 10:53:02 PM EDT
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I hate missing things like this.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:33:39 PM EDT
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LIVE FEED
http://100percentfedup.com/2015/05/30/breaking-watch-live-feed-freedom-speech-rally-ii-front-phoenix-mosque/ |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:44:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:51:45 PM EDT
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I messaged an old .mil buddy to see if he is free tomorrow. If he is down I might go but I'm not willing to go without someone I trust who is armed watching my back. Maybe this sounds paranoid but I would be surprised if violent muslims/islamists didn't show up tomorrow. If nothing else if I'm free tomorrow I'll try to drive by the area and take some cell phone camera pictures. I'm guessing the FBI will be all over this, I know they have been in this area lot recently since the two guys who shot up the last Mohammed drawing contest were from this congregation. While I generally think going out of your way to tweak any rabid followers of any ideology (Pextreme PETA, extreme Fundie Christians, Black Panther off-shoots, etc) this my generate a lot of publicity, mostly negative, but I expect that everybody expects that. Watching your back is a good idea because I figure tweaking a leopard who isn't leashed could find another leopard or three behind you. If blowing up innocents is ok in somebody's version of morality, backshooting is right in there. |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:55:25 PM EDT
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DHS has warned us to "stay away". (Because after all, Islam is THE Religion of Peace). My ass. You're surprised? oh come now, you think any government officer at any level is going to say,"Oh Yeah, go down there, we don't think things will go to shit." or they will say"Yeah, that could blow to shit, take your wife and kids down for the show."" ?? |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 11:56:19 PM EDT
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/29/islamists-promise-kuffar-blood-will-spill-at-phoenix-draw-muhammad-contest/ What do you guys make of this? when idiots collide? |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 12:42:00 AM EDT
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Are you here to troll or what?
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Posted: 5/30/2015 1:42:11 AM EDT
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Are you here to troll or what? You think that "Let's provoke the Muzzies into violence" should be a family event? That's the pics we're seeing on some of the links. Some guys have brought their families. The general idea of more exposure of the influence or lack thereof from "moderate" Moslems on radicals definitely needs to be made. Unfortunately the participants being shown on what little coverage I've seen, look like the locals in "Deliverance", "In The Heat of The Night" and Flim-Flam Man. Which indicates a major failure of the propaganda front - if you don't get any real coverage outside locally until shooting starts, then it failed in it's mission of bringing the message to middle and moderate America, and if all the publicity shots are of apparently red-necks itching for a fight, that's another failure. Instead of illustrating a threat turning into reality, it looks like a fizzle (so far) which is a good thing, because you have to know that the current administration is NOT on your side. What do you think some of the nutballs out there want to do? Provoke religious fanatics in to fighting and then turn it into a Phoenix version of Waco. One shot or firecracker? where's your fire discipline? suddenly we'll see a massacre of women and children at a religious service, by all kinds of loonies opening fire with no targets just a building. And who gets the blame? the trigger happy gun carriers of the NRA and Arizona Well at least I hope you don't want it to turn in to a free fire free for all? What do you want to see happen? how many casualties? how many collateral damage women and children? what is your optimum outcome? Does anybody have the big picture? is anybody watching out for a suicide car or truck bomber coming from an unexpected direction. If they have over the top radicals looking to become martyrs, somebody needs to be watching all around. Is anybody? If a State Patrol/Highway Patrol helo spots a suspicious vehicle speeding in what happens? In Iraq, almost everybody knows what happens and the rules of engagement. Are they the same in downtown Phoenix? |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 1:46:09 AM EDT
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While I generally think going out of your way to tweak any rabid followers of any ideology (Pextreme PETA, extreme Fundie Christians, Black Panther off-shoots, etc) this my generate a lot of publicity, mostly negative, but I expect that everybody expects that. Watching your back is a good idea because I figure tweaking a leopard who isn't leashed could find another leopard or three behind you. If blowing up innocents is ok in somebody's version of morality, backshooting is right in there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I messaged an old .mil buddy to see if he is free tomorrow. If he is down I might go but I'm not willing to go without someone I trust who is armed watching my back. Maybe this sounds paranoid but I would be surprised if violent muslims/islamists didn't show up tomorrow. If nothing else if I'm free tomorrow I'll try to drive by the area and take some cell phone camera pictures. I'm guessing the FBI will be all over this, I know they have been in this area lot recently since the two guys who shot up the last Mohammed drawing contest were from this congregation. While I generally think going out of your way to tweak any rabid followers of any ideology (Pextreme PETA, extreme Fundie Christians, Black Panther off-shoots, etc) this my generate a lot of publicity, mostly negative, but I expect that everybody expects that. Watching your back is a good idea because I figure tweaking a leopard who isn't leashed could find another leopard or three behind you. If blowing up innocents is ok in somebody's version of morality, backshooting is right in there. I don't think this guy is looking to tweak the Muslim community. I think he's trying to take a stand against the apologist bullshit that is going on with government and media in relation to Christianity, American values and rights, and Islam right now......and if they happen to tweak some radicals, oh well. Islam calls for death, dismemberment, and warfare against non-Muslims. FACT. We have a right to make fun of any religion we want....FACT. We have a right to defend ourselves and our rights with arms.....FACT. If some Muslims choose to get violent over their protest and exercising their First Amendment rights....the real problem is with the Muslims who are willing to spill blood over a non-violent insult. FACT. That said, there are significant numbers of Muslims who hold an interpretation of Islam that is not violent, perhaps even a majority. But the organizer comes off as really just an angry Muslim hater. He really, really blew it in managing the message. Even the local media spun this as a simple Islamophobic rant put on by simpleton haters and designed to give them a chance to blow away some Muslims. |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 2:10:24 AM EDT
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You think that "Let's provoke the Muzzies into violence" should be a family event? That's the pics we're seeing on some of the links. Some guys have brought their families. The general idea of more exposure of the influence or lack thereof from "moderate" Moslems on radicals definitely needs to be made. Unfortunately the participants being shown on what little coverage I've seen, look like the locals in "Deliverance", "In The Heat of The Night" and Flim-Flam Man. Which indicates a major failure of the propaganda front - if you don't get any real coverage outside locally until shooting starts, then it failed in it's mission of bringing the message to middle and moderate America, and if all the publicity shots are of apparently red-necks itching for a fight, that's another failure. Instead of illustrating a threat turning into reality, it looks like a fizzle (so far) which is a good thing, because you have to know that the current administration is NOT on your side. What do you think some of the nutballs out there want to do? Provoke religious fanatics in to fighting and then turn it into a Phoenix version of Waco. One shot or firecracker? where's your fire discipline? suddenly we'll see a massacre of women and children at a religious service, by all kinds of loonies opening fire with no targets just a building. And who gets the blame? the trigger happy gun carriers of the NRA and Arizona Well at least I hope you don't want it to turn in to a free fire free for all? What do you want to see happen? how many casualties? how many collateral damage women and children? what is your optimum outcome? Does anybody have the big picture? is anybody watching out for a suicide car or truck bomber coming from an unexpected direction. If they have over the top radicals looking to become martyrs, somebody needs to be watching all around. Is anybody? If a State Patrol/Highway Patrol helo spots a suspicious vehicle speeding in what happens? In Iraq, almost everybody knows what happens and the rules of engagement. Are they the same in downtown Phoenix? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you here to troll or what? You think that "Let's provoke the Muzzies into violence" should be a family event? That's the pics we're seeing on some of the links. Some guys have brought their families. The general idea of more exposure of the influence or lack thereof from "moderate" Moslems on radicals definitely needs to be made. Unfortunately the participants being shown on what little coverage I've seen, look like the locals in "Deliverance", "In The Heat of The Night" and Flim-Flam Man. Which indicates a major failure of the propaganda front - if you don't get any real coverage outside locally until shooting starts, then it failed in it's mission of bringing the message to middle and moderate America, and if all the publicity shots are of apparently red-necks itching for a fight, that's another failure. Instead of illustrating a threat turning into reality, it looks like a fizzle (so far) which is a good thing, because you have to know that the current administration is NOT on your side. What do you think some of the nutballs out there want to do? Provoke religious fanatics in to fighting and then turn it into a Phoenix version of Waco. One shot or firecracker? where's your fire discipline? suddenly we'll see a massacre of women and children at a religious service, by all kinds of loonies opening fire with no targets just a building. And who gets the blame? the trigger happy gun carriers of the NRA and Arizona Well at least I hope you don't want it to turn in to a free fire free for all? What do you want to see happen? how many casualties? how many collateral damage women and children? what is your optimum outcome? Does anybody have the big picture? is anybody watching out for a suicide car or truck bomber coming from an unexpected direction. If they have over the top radicals looking to become martyrs, somebody needs to be watching all around. Is anybody? If a State Patrol/Highway Patrol helo spots a suspicious vehicle speeding in what happens? In Iraq, almost everybody knows what happens and the rules of engagement. Are they the same in downtown Phoenix? Zero arrests, zero incident reports today. Both sides were peaceful asides from a few raised voices. You know what that means? Go back to CA and stay in your lane. |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 2:12:19 AM EDT
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Are you here to troll or what? [snip]In Iraq, almost everybody knows what happens and the rules of engagement. Are they the same in downtown Phoenix? [snip] Or we can all cower in fear of what "might' happen. The time has passed for people to protest not only our erosion of rights as dictated by the main stream media, but also to take back the pride in our country. Provocation is the not the main point, although a barb at those that would control through terrorist tactics and hate is never missplaced. Rather, it's about not allowing the seeds of fear and trepidation to overcome our God given right to protest and correct what is wrong. Sit in your living room and bemoan the loss of your freedom rather than stand up and say no. Cower as the media dictates our terms of surrender. Or show that we are united, we will stand strong against those that would enslave through fear, and that their terror will not win out against us. From 9/11 till now, it's gone from let's roll, to let's roll over. |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 6:22:43 AM EDT
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Good work AZ!
Don't back down to the muslim democrats. |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 11:34:27 AM EDT
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Interesting. I got back to phx around 930pm so i missed all the fun apparently.
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Posted: 5/30/2015 1:25:39 PM EDT
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It is nice to live in a free state where the people have the right to express their views . Phoenix showed the world our citizens have true freedom of speech and did it in a orderly non violent way . This sets an example for the rest of the country .
 Arizona is without a doubt the best state for personal freedom in America today .
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Posted: 5/30/2015 4:09:32 PM EDT
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The fact that NOTHING violent happened is the most important part. The libs are going crazy calling the protestors bigots and all that shit. They are just exposing themselves as the oppressive ones. All the protestors did was voice their views, while being ready to defend their views if anyone attempted to oppress that display. That's a big win in the big picture.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 12:25:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2015 1:26:18 AM EDT
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I wouldn't call it "pussing out" by any stretch.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 1:31:25 AM EDT
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I wouldn't call it "pussing out" by any stretch. He does have a family to protect and those threats should be taken seriously. Those threats should have been anticipated. This whole stunt was billed as a "Stand your ground" demonstration. Selling your house and going into hiding doesn't really fit the bill. you would have to be stupid to do something like this and not have contingencies in place for the inevitable backlash. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 10:23:45 AM EDT
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Those threats should have been anticipated. This whole stunt was billed as a "Stand your ground" demonstration. Selling your house and going into hiding doesn't really fit the bill. you would have to be stupid to do something like this and not have contingencies in place for the inevitable backlash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't call it "pussing out" by any stretch. He does have a family to protect and those threats should be taken seriously. Those threats should have been anticipated. This whole stunt was billed as a "Stand your ground" demonstration. Selling your house and going into hiding doesn't really fit the bill. you would have to be stupid to do something like this and not have contingencies in place for the inevitable backlash. alpha you're a smart man, that's exactly what this was in my eyes, a stunt. If you have a family to protect how smart is it to place them in unneeded danger? Maybe I'm not seeing it, but what rights were being violated, or in danger of being violated, that prompted this event? What was the goal of the event? The only conclusion I can come to on my own is that people want to send a message to the worshipers at that mosque that we are watching you and you better not produce any more violent extremist's. Which I can kind of understand. For me this doesn't pass the three S test: Are stupid people involved? Possibly Is it a stupid thing? Possibly Is it in a stupid place? Possibly Avoidance, deterrence and deescalation; how would a jury see it? |
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alpha you're a smart man, that's exactly what this was in my eyes, a stunt. If you have a family to protect how smart is it to place them in unneeded danger? Maybe I'm not seeing it, but what rights were being violated, or in danger of being violated, that prompted this event? What was the goal of the event? The only conclusion I can come to on my own is that people want to send a message to the worshipers at that mosque that we are watching you and you better not produce any more violent extremist's. Which I can kind of understand. For me this doesn't pass the three S test: Are stupid people involved? Possibly Is it a stupid thing? Possibly Is it in a stupid place? Possibly Avoidance, deterrence and deescalation; how would a jury see it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't call it "pussing out" by any stretch. He does have a family to protect and those threats should be taken seriously. Those threats should have been anticipated. This whole stunt was billed as a "Stand your ground" demonstration. Selling your house and going into hiding doesn't really fit the bill. you would have to be stupid to do something like this and not have contingencies in place for the inevitable backlash. alpha you're a smart man, that's exactly what this was in my eyes, a stunt. If you have a family to protect how smart is it to place them in unneeded danger? Maybe I'm not seeing it, but what rights were being violated, or in danger of being violated, that prompted this event? What was the goal of the event? The only conclusion I can come to on my own is that people want to send a message to the worshipers at that mosque that we are watching you and you better not produce any more violent extremist's. Which I can kind of understand. For me this doesn't pass the three S test: Are stupid people involved? Possibly Is it a stupid thing? Possibly Is it in a stupid place? Possibly Avoidance, deterrence and deescalation; how would a jury see it? shh, thinking it was a stunt offends apparently real Arizonans. Stating it might be stupid really causes them to pee their knickers |
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