Mexican Soldiers Draw Guns on U.S. Agents

....I can't hardly believe what you guys in AZ are putting up with....

"...no action will be taken..." wtf?

The Border is pretty porous and not well defined in places.  I used to ride my XR650R into Mexico all the time at Algodones (Buttercup) until they put up a big ugly fence across the dunes.  Buttercup isn't the same.  

I like the idea of the fence but I'm not sure it helps much.  What really makes me angry, though, is this administration using Jaguar migration as an attempt to prevent a fence from being constructed.  They might as well set aside a Bigfoot corridor.  

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/center/articles/2014/time-03-04-2014.html

This is my favorite quote from the article:

"The Fish and Wildlife Service also said the designation will not affect border security, including routine patrols by law enforcement."

Such, horseshit.  

Roger, that!

That recent NV land-grab was poised because of some turtle being "endangered," but the gobmint's own records showed the silly-assed things were over-populating the desert, and the gobmint themselves were euthanizing the excess!

This outfit now in DC is nothing but a bunch of lying sacks 'o manure.....

Honestly a fence doesn't really help and is a waste of resources IMHO. The fence will only keep out the individual who has a marginal desire to cross the border and little means.

Increasing penalties (and enforcing them) along with increased patrols, restricting services, and denying employment will help however.

The problem with immigration is that it is like a profusely bleeding wound. You can try to pack the wound as best you can to stem the flow but until you actually fix the problem it will continue to still bleed.

Mexico needs to become the 51st state.

MINE IT!!  WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW NATIONS THAT WON'T SIGN THE UN MINE TREATY, USE IT!!

It's because of the DMZ in Korea.

The untold second part of that story as narrated by Bullet_:

Oh HELL no! We wouldn't survive.

If we really wanted to stop illegal immigration, we'd severely punish those who hire them. SEVERELY, not a tap on the wrist.

Why not? They have a vast amount of resources, arable land, and strategic location. Mexico is actually a very wealthy country in terms of resources, it is just run like shit.

If everyone wants to come to the US and the Mexican government isn't doing anything to stop the migration then lets make it easy for them.

I'm all for it if all we inherit are the resources. However we would also inherit all the scourge and additional corruption. We have enough of that already. A better approach would be to cut the 800 million in aid we sent them. Cut it to zero. Use that money to offset the housing of their criminals, to offset the medical expenses incurred when an illegal gets drunk and crashes into a family and puts them in the hospital, etc..

We already are dealing with the affects of their corruption and scourge. If we annexed the country we would at least be able to do something about it, permanently.

Mexico is like a wound on a finger. You can tie that finger off and pretend it doesn't exist but eventually the nastiness will spill over. If you go in and cut the infection out and invest the time and effort to heal that finger in the end you get something productive.

800 million does nothing to offset what we spend to deal with issues from Mexico. You can temporarily patch a problem or you can fix the problem.

Would that make Mexican made Stratocasters made in the USA Stratocasters?  

The difference between US and Mexico border and the North and South Korea border is the Korea border stops movement.  As far as adopting Mexico or making it a territory we will create a horrible insurgency in our own country.  The corruption won't just stop because we step in, recent events testify to that

And the reason why the Korean border stops movement is that both parties work to make that happen, unlike the US/Mexican border.

I honestly do not think that Mexico would have to be taken by force creating an insurgency, offering the common man everything the US offers I think would swing the popular vote.

Yes it would take years and billions/trillions to develop Mexcio but the end payoff of the resources would make it worth it. The Louisiana purchase and acquisition of Alaska were considered wastes of resources too.

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Also keep in mind that many Mexicans are actually very conservative. Most of the Mexicans here in the US lean liberal simply because of immigration and social service access. If they were brought into the fold then the issues they typically vote on would be gone and they would lean back towards their conservative roots.

Fences prevent shotgun vehicle loads and act as a bottleneck. They work but aren't your magic fix you want.