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Posted: 5/4/2015 7:10:39 PM EDT
It would seem that North East Ohio is likely to experience a period of extreme urban unrest this summer. Have you noticed that after 5 months, with a truly top team of investigators and prosecutors reviewing every aspect of the Tamir Rice shooting that we have no charges filed yet? No presentation to the grand jury? Why? Because they already know that there is no criminal wrongdoing there. They just don't want to say so yet.
My guess is that they are waiting for the outcome of the Brelo trial. The hope I think is that if they can convict one, it will appease the mob while they no bill the other. My advice from now until this is concluded is to check the news prior to venturing into the city. It could get very ugly very quickly. |
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GOP Convention coming in 2016, hopefully they don't burn the city down.
I'll be keeping an AR in my truck when I go to the airport. |
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There won't be any rioting. There will be annoying, traffic blocking marches though. The Oberlin kids care more than the actual residents. Odds are, if you avoid the nightly news, you won't even notice it.
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GOP Convention coming in 2016, hopefully they don't burn the city down. I'll be keeping an AR in my truck when I go to the airport. View Quote If it happens it will happen then though I doubt it will. The convention being held there is one of the dumbest political moves in memory, but that is another topic. |
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I am afraid your prediction is spot on. Unfortunately I have to drive through the "heart of it all" to get to work.
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It's going to be a shit-show no matter what. The levels of mismanagement are astounding. Meanwhile, they will continue doing their best "Baghdad Bob" impressions.
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Why would there be arrests in the Tamir Rice shooting? What crime was committed? The video evidence clearly shows Rice reaching for a pistol in his waistband. Anyone who's taken a decent defensive shooting course knows "outdrawing" someone like this is critical especially at this short range.
I do fault the driver of the zone car who put his partner in this too-close situation. But that's not a crime either. Don't bring airsoft to a gunfight. Don't put yourself within pistol range of an active shooter. -- Chuck |
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Cleveland police have already contacted the surrounding cities and suburbs about having extra officers available in case the residents get a little out of control.
For the Republican Convention next year, the amount of cops that will be in the city is going to be staggering. |
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The cops couldn't even stop a guy getting beat down on public square during St. Patrick day in broad daylight. A riot would get out of control very fast.
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Cleveland police have already contacted the surrounding cities and suburbs about having extra officers available in case the residents get a little out of control. For the Republican Convention next year, the amount of cops that will be in the city is going to be staggering. View Quote Yeah, OVERTIME! |
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Quoted: I am afraid your prediction is spot on. Unfortunately I have to drive through the "heart of it all" to get to work. View Quote |
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I hope the judge waits until at Monday the 17th to announce his decision. If he does it on the 15th, there will be lots of cops in town for police memorial events. Drunken out of town cops and rioters would be a crazy mix!
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I live in "the heart of it all." Hopefully folks won't get too squirrely. I think that if there is trouble it will be on the main commercial streets not in the neighborhoods. If that holds true it should be easy to avoid. Still though I have been making sure that my grab and go items are in order in case I need to un-ass the neighborhood in a hurry. View Quote Come on over! We've got plenty of ammo and imitation crab meat. Just don't bring your flares. |
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'burbs-b-ready
for any "overflow" of the festivities Homey Don't Play 'dat sheet was up every morning and on the factory floor at 0600, leave at 1600, day in, day out for decades, paid my taxes, worked for everything I own, never on welfare and all I WANT IS TO BE LEFT THE HELL ALONE! NO ONE WILL BURN ME OUT OR TAKE MY STUFF. (basic premise of law--my shit is not your shit) THIS I WILL DEFEND! been in Hough, 1966, and all the sordid sequels...same 'ole stinky fraudulent shit, but wrapped in a different attractive thug-wrapper. oh, by the way, wuz a former "Honors" HS English Teacher in the '70s, who watched ghetto kids careers crash-n-burn in Cleveland due to one defect (read-below) P.S. want the very basic start to solve this mess: READ ME |
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I'm thinking there is an area out east for you guys and a couple others if things go sideways.
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I live in "the heart of it all." Hopefully folks won't get too squirrely. I think that if there is trouble it will be on the main commercial streets not in the neighborhoods. If that holds true it should be easy to avoid. Still though I have been making sure that my grab and go items are in order in case I need to un-ass the neighborhood in a hurry. Come on over! We've got plenty of ammo and imitation crab meat. Just don't bring your flares. |
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Why would there be arrests in the Tamir Rice shooting? What crime was committed? The video evidence clearly shows Rice reaching for a pistol in his waistband. Anyone who's taken a decent defensive shooting course knows "outdrawing" someone like this is critical especially at this short range. I do fault the driver of the zone car who put his partner in this too-close situation. But that's not a crime either. Don't bring airsoft to a gunfight. Don't put yourself within pistol range of an active shooter. -- Chuck View Quote While you are 100% right, no real crime needs to happen for the court of public stupidity to go crazy. |
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Quoted: I'm thinking there is an area out east for you guys and a couple others if things go sideways. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I'm thinking there is an area out east for you guys and a couple others if things go sideways. Quoted: Quoted: I live in "the heart of it all." Hopefully folks won't get too squirrely. I think that if there is trouble it will be on the main commercial streets not in the neighborhoods. If that holds true it should be easy to avoid. Still though I have been making sure that my grab and go items are in order in case I need to un-ass the neighborhood in a hurry. Come on over! We've got plenty of ammo and imitation crab meat. Just don't bring your flares. Thanks guys! Engineer, since you have imitation crab meat maybe we could start at your place and fall back to Safe1's if they make it up the hill. I'll bring plenty of fixins for crab dip... I tend to think that even if things get crazy the trouble will be on main commercial streets and maybe parts of downtown if there are "peaceful demonstrations" there as well. There are no Wal-Marts, CVS's, or liquor stores on my street - just houses so it doesn't seem like the kind of place that the "protesters" will find attractive for a gathering. I think that if there is trouble it will likely be on Detroit near Cuddell Rec Center, downtown, or somewhere in between. I really hope that nothing comes of all of this. |
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Quoted: While you are 100% right, no real crime needs to happen for the court of public stupidity to go crazy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why would there be arrests in the Tamir Rice shooting? What crime was committed? The video evidence clearly shows Rice reaching for a pistol in his waistband. Anyone who's taken a decent defensive shooting course knows "outdrawing" someone like this is critical especially at this short range. I do fault the driver of the zone car who put his partner in this too-close situation. But that's not a crime either. Don't bring airsoft to a gunfight. Don't put yourself within pistol range of an active shooter. -- Chuck While you are 100% right, no real crime needs to happen for the court of public stupidity to go crazy. Yup - and when "celebrities" make half-truth tweets that "Tamir Rice, was slain while playing in a park" that just stirs the public stupidity up. I'm hoping not to get any calls from dispatch for crowd control at some of the less-than-stellar complexes in our town. |
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Thanks guys! Engineer, since you have imitation crab meat maybe we could start at your place and fall back to Safe1's if they make it up the hill. I'll bring plenty of fixins for crab dip... I tend to think that even if things get crazy the trouble will be on main commercial streets and maybe parts of downtown if there are "peaceful demonstrations" there as well. There are no Wal-Marts, CVS's, or liquor stores on my street - just houses so it doesn't seem like the kind of place that the "protesters" will find attractive for a gathering. I think that if there is trouble it will likely be on Detroit near Cuddell Rec Center, downtown, or somewhere in between. I really hope that nothing comes of all of this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I live in "the heart of it all." Hopefully folks won't get too squirrely. I think that if there is trouble it will be on the main commercial streets not in the neighborhoods. If that holds true it should be easy to avoid. Still though I have been making sure that my grab and go items are in order in case I need to un-ass the neighborhood in a hurry. Come on over! We've got plenty of ammo and imitation crab meat. Just don't bring your flares. Thanks guys! Engineer, since you have imitation crab meat maybe we could start at your place and fall back to Safe1's if they make it up the hill. I'll bring plenty of fixins for crab dip... I tend to think that even if things get crazy the trouble will be on main commercial streets and maybe parts of downtown if there are "peaceful demonstrations" there as well. There are no Wal-Marts, CVS's, or liquor stores on my street - just houses so it doesn't seem like the kind of place that the "protesters" will find attractive for a gathering. I think that if there is trouble it will likely be on Detroit near Cuddell Rec Center, downtown, or somewhere in between. I really hope that nothing comes of all of this. I think you're right Greyguy in saying any rioting will be on main commercial streets and parts of downtown. BTW....See you at Safe1's annual "Guns & Grub" feast in June! |
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The "rioting" and "protests" will be where the best selection of consumer goods is located. 60" color TVs, liquor, stylish clothing, etc. Going to a protest and coming home empty handed is a bummer.
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A friend said he went to a CVS in Baltimore and the only thing left in there was suntan lotion and Fathers day cards.
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A friend said he went to a CVS in Baltimore and the only thing left in the was suntan lotion and Fathers day cards. View Quote That's lucky, I just happen to be in the market for a bottle of sun tan lotion and Father's Day will be here before you know it. If any of y'all find yourselves in Cincinnati when the riots go down give me a shout I too have plenty of imitation crab meat and you can bunk with me in my ammo fort. |
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I have talked to some police from the suburbs and they have said if shit gets out of hand that ClePD has asked for their help and a officers will render mutual aid.
I know the cops in my city really don't take any shit from people and would lock it down if need be but I'm really not worried as I already don't go into the areas that they would happen nor can I see the massive amount of leos that would respond let it move to the nicer areas. |
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Quoted: I have talked to some police from the suburbs and they have said if shit gets out of hand that ClePD has asked for their help and a officers will render mutual aid. I know the cops in my city really don't take any shit from people and would lock it down if need be but I'm really not worried as I already don't go into the areas that they would happen nor can I see the massive amount of leos that would respond let it move to the nicer areas. View Quote It used to be that the cops here didn't take any shit either but from White to Jackson to Holder all telling them to be more sensitive (or else) they are in a tough spot. I live in this city, I want an aggressive police force. I have lived here for a long time without being beaten, shot, or mistreated by the police. It isn't rocket-science and it sure as hell isn't because I'm white. It is because I'm not a criminal and I respect authority... |
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It used to be that the cops here didn't take any shit either but from White to Jackson to Holder all telling them to be more sensitive (or else) they are in a tough spot. I live in this city, I want an aggressive police force. I have lived here for a long time without being beaten, shot, or mistreated by the police. It isn't rocket-science and it sure as hell isn't because I'm white. It is because I'm not a criminal and I respect authority... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have talked to some police from the suburbs and they have said if shit gets out of hand that ClePD has asked for their help and a officers will render mutual aid. I know the cops in my city really don't take any shit from people and would lock it down if need be but I'm really not worried as I already don't go into the areas that they would happen nor can I see the massive amount of leos that would respond let it move to the nicer areas. It used to be that the cops here didn't take any shit either but from White to Jackson to Holder all telling them to be more sensitive (or else) they are in a tough spot. I live in this city, I want an aggressive police force. I have lived here for a long time without being beaten, shot, or mistreated by the police. It isn't rocket-science and it sure as hell isn't because I'm white. It is because I'm not a criminal and I respect authority... I saw on WEWS the PD caught some suspects in the recent robberies at gun point. http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tremont-robberies-linked-to-14-year-old-and-21-year-old-brandon-tyrone-durrette |
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Quoted: I saw on WEWS the PD caught some suspects in the recent robberies at gun point. http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tremont-robberies-linked-to-14-year-old-and-21-year-old-brandon-tyrone-durrette View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have talked to some police from the suburbs and they have said if shit gets out of hand that ClePD has asked for their help and a officers will render mutual aid. I know the cops in my city really don't take any shit from people and would lock it down if need be but I'm really not worried as I already don't go into the areas that they would happen nor can I see the massive amount of leos that would respond let it move to the nicer areas. It used to be that the cops here didn't take any shit either but from White to Jackson to Holder all telling them to be more sensitive (or else) they are in a tough spot. I live in this city, I want an aggressive police force. I have lived here for a long time without being beaten, shot, or mistreated by the police. It isn't rocket-science and it sure as hell isn't because I'm white. It is because I'm not a criminal and I respect authority... I saw on WEWS the PD caught some suspects in the recent robberies at gun point. http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tremont-robberies-linked-to-14-year-old-and-21-year-old-brandon-tyrone-durrette There was a lot of talk about those robberies. It's good to hear that they made arrests. The young one sounds like a real gem. He cut off an ankle bracelet and skipped a court case in another robbery case against him. I'm sure that we'll be able to get that one rehabilitated and into the Boy Scouts in no time... |
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I'll be watching with mild amusement from my digs in Geauga county, where it's safe. And dull.
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Know a guy in the Guard and they just got activated for Cleveland.
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Tamir Rice investigation updates to be released tomorrow.
http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/11/update-in-tamir-rice-investigation-coming-tuesday/27126849/ |
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Quoted: Also from what I understand the CPD are required to keep their riot gear with them now so that they can reduce response time to unrest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Know a guy in the Guard and they just got activated for Cleveland. Also from what I understand the CPD are required to keep their riot gear with them now so that they can reduce response time to unrest. CPD has been under that requirement for a while now in anticipation of announcements for both the Rice and Brelo cases. I didn't know about the ONG. Are they actually staged somewhere right now or are they on notice that they could be called to report in soon. That makes me wonder what they know about one or both of these cases that we don't. I really hope that this city doesn't get torn up over all of this nonsense... |
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CPD has been under that requirement for a while now in anticipation of announcements for both the Rice and Brelo cases. I didn't know about the ONG. Are they actually staged somewhere right now or are they on notice that they could be called to report in soon. That makes me wonder what they know about one or both of these cases that we don't. I really hope that this city doesn't get torn up over all of this nonsense... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Know a guy in the Guard and they just got activated for Cleveland. Also from what I understand the CPD are required to keep their riot gear with them now so that they can reduce response time to unrest. CPD has been under that requirement for a while now in anticipation of announcements for both the Rice and Brelo cases. I didn't know about the ONG. Are they actually staged somewhere right now or are they on notice that they could be called to report in soon. That makes me wonder what they know about one or both of these cases that we don't. I really hope that this city doesn't get torn up over all of this nonsense... The guard is just on notice to be ready. Same as LOTS of area LEOs. I have heard rumors that the judge will wait until next Monday to announce the Brelo decision. That way the police memorial ceremonies are not interrupted. Although some assholes might make a bad decision to try to cause trouble during those ceremonies. |
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Well,the latest from the AG is that he wants to up the recruitment requirements to mandate a HS diploma or GED even though I've never met a cop without at least that. He also wants to increase basic training and up the mandatory 4 hrs of continuing education annually to 40 hours. He never mentions that 40 hours will cost about $60 million state wide. Does the state have another $60million to tell people what they already know?
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Quoted: HADES NO! P.S. just had a beer with a Cleveland lawyer in a mega-firm whose office building is at North Point (9th and Lakeside.) he says a group of African-Americans in uniforms with badges or sleeve insignia (Pfc, Cpl, Sgt) were demonstrating outside of Cleveland City Hall today. the lawyer told me that the Partners in the office have contingency plans for "events" and that all lawyers are now required to have their laptops with them 24/7, as they may be working at home, in court, or "places other than North Point" for the next 7-10 days if things go hot. the lawyer also showed me his newest piece, a Sig Traditional Ultra, that he keeps in the small of the back. he's been a ccw from day 1. here's part of the festivities today on East 9th Street in Cleveland blocking traffic. guess they don't believe in letting people get to/from work, but what the heck--there are now 100,000,000 Americans who are able to work, but are not working. http://imgick.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/05/14/-81878ee59ec8e032.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Does the state have another $60million to tell people what they already know? HADES NO! P.S. just had a beer with a Cleveland lawyer in a mega-firm whose office building is at North Point (9th and Lakeside.) he says a group of African-Americans in uniforms with badges or sleeve insignia (Pfc, Cpl, Sgt) were demonstrating outside of Cleveland City Hall today. the lawyer told me that the Partners in the office have contingency plans for "events" and that all lawyers are now required to have their laptops with them 24/7, as they may be working at home, in court, or "places other than North Point" for the next 7-10 days if things go hot. the lawyer also showed me his newest piece, a Sig Traditional Ultra, that he keeps in the small of the back. he's been a ccw from day 1. here's part of the festivities today on East 9th Street in Cleveland blocking traffic. guess they don't believe in letting people get to/from work, but what the heck--there are now 100,000,000 Americans who are able to work, but are not working. http://imgick.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/05/14/-81878ee59ec8e032.jpg Great... I wonder if that jack ass even lives here or if he just shows up to tear a city apart and then moves on to the next one. |
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I wonder if that jack ass even lives here or if he just shows up to tear a city apart and then moves on to the next one. View Quote it's becoming commonplace that these instigators are bussed from city to city to raise hell. usually bought and paid for by the Soros crowd. Indeed, George Soros has been heavily involved in the social unrest and movement-wrecking activity that has taken place all across the United States in recent months. From Florida to Ferguson and now to Baltimore, George Soros’ Foundations have been involved in making sure that not only are American citizens unable to overcome racial divisions with mutual cooperation but that even the racially isolated participants are unable to accomplish anything of substance. View Quote Soros |
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Quoted: it's becoming commonplace that these instigators are bussed from city to city to raise hell. usually bought and paid for by the Soros crowd. http://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/soros-1-620x320.jpg Soros View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I wonder if that jack ass even lives here or if he just shows up to tear a city apart and then moves on to the next one. it's becoming commonplace that these instigators are bussed from city to city to raise hell. usually bought and paid for by the Soros crowd. http://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/soros-1-620x320.jpg Indeed, George Soros has been heavily involved in the social unrest and movement-wrecking activity that has taken place all across the United States in recent months. From Florida to Ferguson and now to Baltimore, George Soros’ Foundations have been involved in making sure that not only are American citizens unable to overcome racial divisions with mutual cooperation but that even the racially isolated participants are unable to accomplish anything of substance. Soros Yup, and people are upset about the influence that the Koch brothers exercise... |
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The Brelo verdict should be announced on Monday. Cleveland PD and the troopers will be in place before the announcement. "Protesters" will be allowed to peacefully march or block streets. If you work downtown I would leave work before the verdict is read.
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This...I purposely put my compound miles away from any section 8 and bus stops. Where abouts in Geauga are you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll be watching with mild amusement from my digs in Geauga county, where it's safe. And dull. This...I purposely put my compound miles away from any section 8 and bus stops. Where abouts in Geauga are you? Chardon. |
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Quoted: The Brelo verdict should be announced on Monday. Cleveland PD and the troopers will be in place before the announcement. "Protesters" will be allowed to peacefully march or block streets. If you work downtown I would leave work before the verdict is read. View Quote Why is blocking traffic in the streets considered peaceful? It seems like that is a very aggressive and antagonistic move. |
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Got a pre-recorded message yesterday from the CPS superintendent saying parents can keep their kids home from school when the verdict is read without attendance consequences (my kids go to CPS). But no one knows WHEN the verdict will be read
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View Quote Damnit. I am off Monday and Tuesday. These riots better happen on my off days. That overtime is so delicious. Not really wishing for riots. |
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View Quote Honestly that might be a good strategy especially if there are out of town troublemakers here at the moment. If the city can wait them out it might not be as bad when the verdict is read. Of course there could be protests/riots for not releasing a verdict fast enough for the mob too... |
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Quoted: Damnit. I am off Monday and Tuesday. These riots better happen on my off days. That overtime is so delicious. Not really wishing for riots. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Damnit. I am off Monday and Tuesday. These riots better happen on my off days. That overtime is so delicious. Not really wishing for riots. You can have all the overtime in the world as far as I'm concerned if you are helping to keep the 2nd District safe... |
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