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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:16:54 PM EDT
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Yeah...where you been? |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 6:56:23 PM EDT
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Man landed on the moon in 2000 too
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:25:55 PM EDT
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The brace is not an NFA item. A short barrel rifle is a NFA item. The "brace" is a shoulder stock, nothing more.
-- Chuck |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 7:31:46 PM EDT
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The brace is not an NFA item. A short barrel rifle is a NFA item. The "brace" is a shoulder stock, nothing more. -- Chuck Apparently I am late to the party to hear about this. If you shoulder an AR pistol without the brace -- just using the buffer tube , does that make it an SBR in the eyes of the ATF? |
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Posted: 1/28/2015 8:13:30 PM EDT
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Apparently I am late to the party to hear about this. If you shoulder an AR pistol without the brace -- just using the buffer tube , does that make it an SBR in the eyes of the ATF? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The brace is not an NFA item. A short barrel rifle is a NFA item. The "brace" is a shoulder stock, nothing more. -- Chuck Apparently I am late to the party to hear about this. If you shoulder an AR pistol without the brace -- just using the buffer tube , does that make it an SBR in the eyes of the ATF? No. There are a million threads on this. You can shoulder the buffer tube. You can have a Sig Brace on, so long as it's used as a brace. Once you shoulder the brace it becomes a stock. Yes, it's ridiculous, but that's what it is. |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 2:17:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. There are a million threads on this. You can shoulder the buffer tube. You can have a Sig Brace on, so long as it's used as a brace. Once you shoulder the brace it becomes a stock. Yes, it's ridiculous, but that's what it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The brace is not an NFA item. A short barrel rifle is a NFA item. The "brace" is a shoulder stock, nothing more. -- Chuck Apparently I am late to the party to hear about this. If you shoulder an AR pistol without the brace -- just using the buffer tube , does that make it an SBR in the eyes of the ATF? No. There are a million threads on this. You can shoulder the buffer tube. You can have a Sig Brace on, so long as it's used as a brace. Once you shoulder the brace it becomes a stock. Yes, it's ridiculous, but that's what it is. but if you dont INTEND to shoulder it, it just "happens", then the letter of the law is still correct.. remember, shooting you pistol with 2 hands would be a AOW, by the "current" ATF "rules" The term "Pistol” means a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 8:02:10 AM EDT
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The device was always intended to circumvent the NFA SBR criteria. I'm surprised it took this long.
-- Chuck |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 9:53:10 AM EDT
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You can shoulder the buffer tube. You can have a Sig Brace on, so long as it's used as a brace. Once you shoulder the brace it becomes a stock. Yes, it's ridiculous, but that's what it is. http://siterepository.s3.amazonaws.com/2675/atf_response_letter_for_ar_pistol_pack.pdf?_sm_au_=iMVDfZZFvqDMZjvV There's this letter floating around the AR pistol forum, originally asked about those CAA cheek weld "enhancers", but the ATF makes the statement: However, if a pistol assembled with an AR-type buffer tube or similar component; which in turn redesigns the subject AR-type pistol to be designed or redesigned and consequently intended to be fired from the shoulder; an NFA weapon as defined in 26 U.S.C. $ 58a5(a)(3); has been made. The slippery slope is still "intent". |
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:40:10 AM EDT
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Sig is trying to get this reversed by threatening legal action, and will probably take it to court: Article
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:32:15 AM EDT
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Sig is trying to get this reversed by threatening legal action, and will probably take it to court: Article That is good news. Hopefully they prevail over comrade Obummer and his cronies. |
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