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Posted: 6/13/2011 6:32:29 AM
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This ticks me off!! Those SOB's moved the meeting to southern Ohio at a drop of the hat, but now
they can have a meeting back there!?

http://www.ogca.com/


BTW –– I think moving OGCA from the I-X Center cost our club a lot of members. The club never tried to fight
Cleveland on the gun reg's. We were at the I-X Center for like 12 years when it was Brookpark. I'm sure we would have
had a strong case to be 'grandfathered' in. But instead of fighting, the leadership pulled a 'Modell'.
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Posted: 6/13/2011 9:05:51 AM
I read the insert in the quarterly and it is an additional show not taking anything away from the Roberts center. they referred to it as a "test"
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Posted: 6/13/2011 9:53:39 PM
BRING THE MARCH SHOW BACK TO THE NORTH COAST!
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Posted: 6/13/2011 10:43:22 PM
Might be because people in the North half of the state were letting their memberships go.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 6:20:00 AM

Originally Posted By shotar:
Might be because people in the North half of the state were letting their memberships go.


And you know this –– HOW?? Do you have privy to OGCA membership statistics? What I do know for a fact is AFTER OGCA moved
south, the new member notice in our newsletter went from about 4 pages to 1 page. I think the club lost a shitload of members
AFTER the move to Wilmington.
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Posted: 6/14/2011 6:41:46 PM
Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Might be because people in the North half of the state were letting their memberships go.


And you know this –– HOW?? Do you have privy to OGCA membership statistics? What I do know for a fact is AFTER OGCA moved
south, the new member notice in our newsletter went from about 4 pages to 1 page. I think the club lost a shitload of members
AFTER the move to Wilmington.


Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum????
Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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Posted: 6/14/2011 8:07:29 PM
Originally Posted By Plumber576:
BRING THE MARCH SHOW BACK TO THE NORTH COAST!


NEVAR!
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Posted: 6/14/2011 9:12:59 PM
Cool, glad I kept my membership.
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Posted: 6/15/2011 1:56:18 AM
I let my membership lapse when they left Brookpark. If they are coming back, I'd love to get another membership, but I don't know any current members.
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Posted: 6/15/2011 8:07:02 AM

Originally Posted By shotar:
Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Might be because people in the North half of the state were letting their memberships go.


And you know this –– HOW?? Do you have privy to OGCA membership statistics? What I do know for a fact is AFTER OGCA moved
south, the new member notice in our newsletter went from about 4 pages to 1 page. I think the club lost a shitload of members
AFTER the move to Wilmington.


Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum????

Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? How would I know you agree with me, based on your statement?? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? I've been in OGCA since the mid-1990's & therefore am concerned where the club has it's meetings. Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Yes, meetings divided with 3/south & 3/north would be fair. OGCA's previous leadership has resisted numerous suggestions for meeting places in the north. Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum???? "Lack of decorum"?? Because I questioned the veracity of your comment?? Sorry to disturb your genteel sensibilities!
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Posted: 6/15/2011 10:58:21 AM
Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
I let my membership lapse when they left Brookpark. If they are coming back, I'd love to get another membership, but I don't know any current members.

+1 also let mine go. As many of the members did. I know a lot of people that would rejoin if the had a meeting up north. I was a member since 88.
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Posted: 6/15/2011 12:40:03 PM
Hmmm...
I remember a thread back in February....

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=8&f=12&t=442257
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Posted: 6/16/2011 12:42:48 AM
Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
I let my membership lapse when they left Brookpark. If they are coming back, I'd love to get another membership, but I don't know any current members.


Ya know at least one. Well now you do.

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Posted: 6/16/2011 7:04:31 PM
Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Might be because people in the North half of the state were letting their memberships go.


And you know this –– HOW?? Do you have privy to OGCA membership statistics? What I do know for a fact is AFTER OGCA moved
south, the new member notice in our newsletter went from about 4 pages to 1 page. I think the club lost a shitload of members
AFTER the move to Wilmington.


Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum????

Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? How would I know you agree with me, based on your statement?? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? I've been in OGCA since the mid-1990's & therefore am concerned where the club has it's meetings. Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Yes, meetings divided with 3/south & 3/north would be fair. OGCA's previous leadership has resisted numerous suggestions for meeting places in the north. Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum???? "Lack of decorum"?? Because I questioned the veracity of your comment?? Sorry to disturb your genteel sensibilities!


Just a note. Calling out the moderator is generally frowned upon in this establishment. Further, you would note that OGCA former members here have now stated that they left because of the move south and having been active in the Ohio firearms community since the early 80s, I have heard this repeated numerous times at numerous get togethers in the northern part of the state. Perhaps you should use more prudence in the future. Especially when someone, who actually does run the place, is not being confrontational with you.
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Posted: 6/16/2011 8:02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:
This ticks me off!! Those SOB's moved the meeting to southern Ohio at a drop of the hat, but now
they can have a meeting back there!?

http://www.ogca.com/


BTW –– I think moving OGCA from the I-X Center cost our club a lot of members. The club never tried to fight
Cleveland on the gun reg's. We were at the I-X Center for like 12 years when it was Brookpark. I'm sure we would have
had a strong case to be 'grandfathered' in. But instead of fighting, the leadership pulled a 'Modell'.


As I recall, the City of Columbus offered to "grandfather" the OGCA in at Vets Memorial after the passage of the "assault weapons" ban. The powers that be of the OGCA told Columbus to pound sand - repeal it or we're gone. The same thing happened at the IX Center - the land of Cleve annexed
the center and it became assault weapons banned territory. The OGCA has a pretty firm stand on gun rights issues - no negotiating, zero tolerance. (good!!) Many members were lost due to the move to the Roberts Center. Many new members were gained, though. A move back to the IX center would have the same result. Many menbers would quit but new ones would be added. I made many of the IX shows, even though the drive time more than doubled. I never, ever considered quitting the OGCA.
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Posted: 6/16/2011 10:36:48 PM
Originally Posted By clutchsmoke:
Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
I let my membership lapse when they left Brookpark. If they are coming back, I'd love to get another membership, but I don't know any current members.


Ya know at least one. Well now you do.




Thanks, if the make the move back to the IX Center, I'll get back with you.
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Posted: 6/16/2011 10:50:30 PM
I let mine lapse after the show left Brookpark.
Even when it was there, I thought they should fine
a more central place. They never did.
Mayor Frank Jackson will not let this show being here, lie.
I have not heard, sense the State Supreme Court
over ruled his anti-gun actions. what he is up to!
But that show being in his town,
(Yes I'm sure he thinks it is HIS town)
Well bring out some kind of action on his part.
I feel sorry for the rank and file who have to follow
this progressive (anti-constitutional State and Federal) Mayor!
From check points to under cover buying!
I'm all for a few shows up North this way.
Next one in Akron.

PITA45

PS Anyone know how much money Cleveland wasted fighting
against their own citizens gun right?

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Posted: 6/17/2011 6:30:35 AM

Originally Posted By shotar:
Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Originally Posted By SonOfHermann07:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Might be because people in the North half of the state were letting their memberships go.


And you know this –– HOW?? Do you have privy to OGCA membership statistics? What I do know for a fact is AFTER OGCA moved
south, the new member notice in our newsletter went from about 4 pages to 1 page. I think the club lost a shitload of members
AFTER the move to Wilmington.


Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum????

Let me get this right? If I understand your tone, you are taking umbridge because I agree with you? How would I know you agree with me, based on your statement?? Why exactly are you upset that they decided to hold a meeting in the north? How does this impact you? I've been in OGCA since the mid-1990's & therefore am concerned where the club has it's meetings. Might it not be more fair and more inviting to new membership if they alternated meetings and perhaps had some convenient to the south and some convenient to the north? Yes, meetings divided with 3/south & 3/north would be fair. OGCA's previous leadership has resisted numerous suggestions for meeting places in the north. Please explain your apparent lack of decorum in this forum???? "Lack of decorum"?? Because I questioned the veracity of your comment?? Sorry to disturb your genteel sensibilities!


Just a note. Calling out the moderator is generally frowned upon in this establishment. Further, you would note that OGCA former members here have now stated that they left because of the move south and having been active in the Ohio firearms community since the early 80s, I have heard this repeated numerous times at numerous get togethers in the northern part of the state. Perhaps you should use more prudence in the future. Especially when someone, who actually does run the place, is not being confrontational with you.


S-O-R-R-Y!! I didn't mean to pick a fight with anyone! Just the whole topic of OGCA skulking-out of the I-X Center is a real burr in by shorts! And then the strong resistance to having a meeting place back up north -WOW! It is the OHIO Gun Collectors Association, so either a more central location should be found, or rotate the meetings between north/south. I hope a viable solution can be found for the benefit of ALL members!!
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Posted: 6/18/2011 6:11:12 PM
I'd be REALLY happy if they brought every other show up to Cleveland.
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Wow! I remember going to every show with my dad when I was a kid in the early 90's. I'd live to relive that.
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