Is it possible to have thi pinned please Shotar.

Thanks this really clears some things up for me.

Thanks for the great information!

Another thing we lost in this bill is our ability to carry loaded magazines anywhere in the vehicle. The law tried to define what a "loaded gun" was and clearly stated no loaded magazines no matter where they are in the vehicle. Before we could put them in separate compartments of the vehicle from the gun and be legal.

The key issues on loaded magazines anywhere in the vehicle is whether or not you have a CCW Permit and whether it is a sidearm or longarm:

For Sidearms:
- If you have a CCW permit you can have loaded magazines (or speedloaders) as long as you are transporting the sidearm(s) in accordance with CCW requirements.
- If you don't have a CCW permit you cannot have loaded magazines (or speedloaders) that are compatible with any firearms in your vehicle.

For Longarms:
- You can't transport loaded magazines or speedloaders (not sure if that includes stripper clips because I didn't see them specifically mentioned) that are compatible with any longarm in your vehicle whether you have a CCW permit or not.

Sec 2923.16 (K)(5) "Unloaded" means, with any of the following:
(a) No ammunition is in the firearm in question, and no ammunition is loaded into a magazine or speed loader that may be used with the firearm in question and that is located anywhere within the vehicle in question, without regard to where ammunition otherwise is located within the vehicle in question.

The opening of this thread includes this great link with more info:

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/5781

Grey Areas:

- Haven't heard anything on how they will interpret "companion carbines" (i.e. a pistol caliber rifle the accepts the same magazine and and caliber as your CCW sidearm(s)).





- Similiarly, is a roof top carrier or rear hitch carrier considered "in" the vehicle. May need a test case on that one.

Work Around:

- Use the "buddy system" to transport pre-loaded magazines to shooting events. Have one person take the guns and another take the loaded magazines.

- A little ackward and not so fuel friendly, but it would save you rushing around to load all those magazines when you get to the shooting event.

New laws always bring too many questions....so no more loaded magazines, ok got that...but couldn't a stripper clip in "reality" be considered a "speed loader"? That's it's whole purpose for existance is it not?

Also, my AR-15 has a 14.5" barrel with a permanently attached flash hider, making it a total of 16", so does it have to be out in the open in my vehicle with the action opened or not? Kind of kills the idea of transporting it in a case, I live in an apartment complex and carrying it "openly" to my vehicle would surely in this day and age have many calling the Police with the "OMG he has an M-16" and surely would have Police swarming my vehicle before I get on the main road. Besides the fact that most would know what I got and it's really none of the business.

As far as pistols are concerened, locked in a carry case is acceptable is it not?

Thanks for your anticipated reply.

R6

ok, i was told by an instructor that you could now drive through a school zone with a loaded hand gun.

only thing the new law states is

(b) The person is the driver or passenger in a motor vehicle and is in the school safety zone while immediately in the process of picking up or dropping off a child.

2nd. my wife is a teacher at a child day care center. as i understand it, the law states
"For the purpose of this statute, a school includes everything up to the property boundary. Under the law, an offense is within the vicinity of a school if it is committed within the property boundary or within 1,000 feet of the boundaries of any school premises."

My question is. as long as she locks up her handgun out side the 1,000 foot exclusion zone and parks out side of the 1,000 foot exclusion zone while she is going to work is that sufficient with the law.

I understand exact legal advise comes from a lawyer.just thought i would ask here and see.

thanks for your time

When I am driving long distance I would like to keep my firearm in a closed case in the back seat of my truck with the spare magazine. Is this legal since its not on my person?

[quote]Originally Posted By CapeBretoner:
Sec 2923.16 (K)(5) "Unloaded" means, with any of the following:
(a) No ammunition is in the firearm in question, and no ammunition is loaded into a magazine or speed loader that may be used with the firearm in question and that is located anywhere within the vehicle in question, without regard to where ammunition otherwise is located within the vehicle in question.
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Fucking bullshit.

Not BS, it's true.

Of course this is very old news. September 2008 (two zero zero eight).

–– Chuck

Why is his obsolete "sticky" in the forum? This all happened three years ago.

–– Chuci

Another addition to a nonsense law that doesn't actually address the real issue. Criminals don't follow the laws anyway! Great, now law abiding citizens have to practice speed loading magazines on the fly while some crazy person approaches your car with a (enter weapon______) (at least for those who don't want CCW)...

Opening a box of .223 = 1 sec
Removing 10 rounds = 4.5 secs
loading 10 rounds = 6.0 secs
Inserting Magazine = 1 sec
Chambering a round = .5 sec
Defending your life... = timeless

Cheers to American freedom

This law took effect four years ago. This thread is for general information and clarification for some of the screwy things that happened such as defining a "loaded firearm" as an unloaded firearm with a magazine loaded anywhere in the car. Therefore, if you had an empty pistol locked in the glovebox, and a loaded mag in your car's trunk, unless you have a CCW that's illegal transportation of a firearm.