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Posted: 5/3/2010 1:01:11 PM
Originally Posted By jimr:
Originally Posted By Fields_Overseer:
Originally Posted By jimr:
anything that is legal, are you talking varments or deer. if it's deer 3 slugs only. rimfire what ever the gun will hold for small game. say your using your ar for varmint hunting no more the 30 this. If your shooting coyotes or ground hogs, standard mags are fine... if your using a 22, a 50 round will be fine... obsurd, but legal 
Now what if your using a 50 Beowulf pistol for deer? is there a limit?  *ok back on topic*not leagal in ohio. the law states straight wall pistol catridge beowulf is straightwalled isnt it? or does the rebated rim discount it... i was under the impression that .45 but do to the rim, are you saying its a no go? |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 12:05:27 PM
What about a 31 round magazine?
I want to take a standard baseplate and replace the +2 baseplate on a 33 round Glock mag. If I never chamber a round prior to inserting the mag wouldn't I be within the letter of the law? Also can anyone post links or case names for the case law? |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 12:10:29 PM
Originally Posted By Raph84:
What about a 31 round magazine? I want to take a standard baseplate and replace the +2 baseplate on a 33 round Glock mag. If I never chamber a round prior to inserting the mag wouldn't I be within the letter of the law? Not legal, you are still adapting the firearms to fire more than the legal limit. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 12:51:06 PM
 in that case what is the best way to mod the mags a dowel glued below the follower? |
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Posted: 7/26/2010 5:46:46 PM
Originally Posted By Eagle106:
How about we, oh I don't know, start a petition or call up Buckeye Firearms Association and talk about REPEALING THE LAW? That seams like a much better alternative than buttfucking over what the law means in arfcom. This. This particular law, while the only real PITA gun law in Ohio that I know of , should've been abolished long ago, as it's frakkin' stupid as hell. How many people are unknowingly breaking this law? |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 1:28:44 PM
Where in the law specifically does it state that an NFA firearm allows you to have 30+ round magazines in Ohio? My concern here is that I'm building an SBR that will have a 50 round magazine. I can see how a registered automatic weapon MIGHT exempt you from this law, but SBR? I'd like to see some law on this.
I called the NFA branch btw. They don't have anything specific telling me it's OK if I'm SBR. |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 5:46:20 PM
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Originally Posted By johnso26:
Where in the law specifically does it state that an NFA firearm allows you to have 30+ round magazines in Ohio? My concern here is that I'm building an SBR that will have a 50 round magazine. I can see how a registered automatic weapon MIGHT exempt you from this law, but SBR? I'd like to see some law on this. I called the NFA branch btw. They don't have anything specific telling me it's OK if I'm SBR. 2923.17 (C) Division (A) of this section does not apply to: (5) Owners of dangerous ordnance registered in the national firearms registration and transfer record pursuant to the act of October 22, 1968, 82 Stat. 1229, 5841, and any amendments or additions thereto or reenactments thereof, and regulations issued thereunder. Ohio defines SBRs and Machine Guns as " dangerous ordnance". |
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Posted: 8/30/2010 7:07:26 PM
Originally Posted By johnso26:
Where in the law specifically does it state that an NFA firearm allows you to have 30+ round magazines in Ohio? Start with the Ohio Reveised code, 2023.11 (can be found on-line, or in writing at the local library, assuming you is actually an Ohio resident that forgot to change your location from CA to OHIO).... slowly read the section and follow through all the various exemtions // guilty of // til you get to 2923.17 as Steve notes.. then follow it carefully down the Registered with NFA part.... At least some legislator managed to write something smart in 2923.17 I called the NFA branch btw. That was a waste of long distance call, not their job to know petty state laws, their only concern is if firearm is legal in state They don't have anything specific telling me it's OK if I'm SBR. See above comment |
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Posted: 8/31/2010 10:08:37 AM
Thanks guys. Exactly what I needed.
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Posted: 9/4/2010 4:03:58 PM
Does this mean Pmags are a no go? You can fit 31 in a Pmag. I have an sbr, can I only use Pmags in that?
I was considering a possible move back up north and Ohio was on the short list. PA is gaining more and more ground. |
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Posted: 9/4/2010 10:18:13 PM
a pmag is advertised as, sold as, and designed to be a 30 round magazine. they are GTG. even though you can squeeze that 1 extra round in there, I wouldn't do it regardless of mag capacity limits. It over-compresses the spring and will cause it to wear faster.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 10:55:15 PM
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 10:55:39 PM by SBR7_11]
Originally Posted By bpjohnm:
Does this mean Pmags are a no go? Hardly think so, Gander Mountain down the road here been loaded with P-Mags for a long time.. |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 11:55:41 PM
Originally Posted By Fields_Overseer:
Originally Posted By jimr:
Originally Posted By Fields_Overseer:
Originally Posted By jimr:
anything that is legal, are you talking varments or deer. if it's deer 3 slugs only. rimfire what ever the gun will hold for small game. say your using your ar for varmint hunting no more the 30 this. If your shooting coyotes or ground hogs, standard mags are fine... if your using a 22, a 50 round will be fine... obsurd, but legal
Now what if your using a 50 Beowulf pistol for deer? is there a limit? *ok back on topic*not leagal in ohio. the law states straight wall pistol catridge beowulf is straightwalled isnt it? or does the rebated rim discount it... i was under the impression that .45 but do to the rim, are you saying its a no go? The 41 AE (rebatted rim) is on the list I have from DOW in 2006. The Beowolf is not mentioned. I would assume it would be OK in a pistol but would ask my local DOW officer before I used it. Chad |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 3:10:25 PM
Originally Posted By cotter6015:
The 41 AE (rebatted rim) is on the list I have from DOW in 2006. The Beowolf is not mentioned. I would assume it would be OK in a pistol but would ask my local DOW officer before I used it. Chad any chance you could put that list up? maybe in a new thread. seeing as how the 41 AE is on there, it would be nice to know what other rebated rim cartridges are allowed. |
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Posted: 9/7/2010 7:29:59 PM
Originally Posted By X02Wyvern:
Originally Posted By cotter6015:
The 41 AE (rebatted rim) is on the list I have from DOW in 2006. The Beowolf is not mentioned. I would assume it would be OK in a pistol but would ask my local DOW officer before I used it. Chad any chance you could put that list up? maybe in a new thread. seeing as how the 41 AE is on there, it would be nice to know what other rebated rim cartridges are allowed. When was the last time anybody seen 41AE ?? Brass is near 98% impossible to find, and no commercial ammo availabe. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 9:24:57 PM
Originally Posted By SBR7_11:
When was the last time anybody seen 41AE ?? Brass is near 98% impossible to find, and no commercial ammo availabe. that isn't the point. |
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Posted: 1/11/2011 5:40:51 PM
Simply read the tacked link above. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=12&t=318417
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Posted: 1/12/2011 10:03:11 PM
Any way to get this repealed?
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Posted: 5/24/2011 10:23:00 AM
So if I move to OH (as it looks at this moment, OH is the next place to live) I would basically need to leave the mags for my firearms that hold more than 31 rounds, that I legally bought as a resident of another state, at a location outside of OH? Man oh man I wish I were going back to Bama now.
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Posted: 5/24/2011 10:45:23 AM
Originally Posted By sniper69:
So if I move to OH (as it looks at this moment, OH is the next place to live) I would basically need to leave the mags for my firearms that hold more than 31 rounds, that I legally bought as a resident of another state, at a location outside of OH? Man oh man I wish I were going back to Bama now. You can own the magazines, you just can't use them in any NON NFA weapon. |
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Posted: 5/24/2011 7:29:52 PM
Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By sniper69:
So if I move to OH (as it looks at this moment, OH is the next place to live) I would basically need to leave the mags for my firearms that hold more than 31 rounds, that I legally bought as a resident of another state, at a location outside of OH? Man oh man I wish I were going back to Bama now. You can own the magazines, you just can't use them in any NON NFA weapon. Can they be used, just not loaded to their full capacity? |
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Posted: 5/24/2011 7:32:43 PM
Originally Posted By Plumber576: Originally Posted By bigbore: Originally Posted By sniper69: So if I move to OH (as it looks at this moment, OH is the next place to live) I would basically need to leave the mags for my firearms that hold more than 31 rounds, that I legally bought as a resident of another state, at a location outside of OH? Man oh man I wish I were going back to Bama now. You can own the magazines, you just can't use them in any NON NFA weapon. Can they be used, just not loaded to their full capacity? no |
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Posted: 6/8/2011 11:40:11 PM
Can they be used, just not loaded to their full capacity?
I believe magazines of any size are fine, you just cannot have more than 30 rounds in them; same idea with belts, or drums, or a helical mag (for the Calico). If I'm wrong about that I'd like to know exactly where it says that in current law. |
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Posted: 6/9/2011 8:15:32 AM
[Last Edit: 6/9/2011 8:17:25 AM by bigbore]
Originally Posted By lvcipriani:
Can they be used, just not loaded to their full capacity?
I believe magazines of any size are fine, you just cannot have more than 30 rounds in them; same idea with belts, or drums, or a helical mag (for the Calico). If I'm wrong about that I'd like to know exactly where it says that in current law. You cannot legally put a magazine with a capacity over 30rds in a NON NFA gun. Doing so "adapts" the weapon to fire more than 31 rounds without reloading - regardless of the number of rounds actually loaded in the mag. If you read this thread, its covered several times on the first page RC 2323.11 Weapons Control Definitions (E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges. |
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Posted: 6/9/2011 8:26:15 PM
Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By lvcipriani:
Can they be used, just not loaded to their full capacity?
I believe magazines of any size are fine, you just cannot have more than 30 rounds in them; same idea with belts, or drums, or a helical mag (for the Calico). If I'm wrong about that I'd like to know exactly where it says that in current law. You cannot legally put a magazine with a capacity over 30rds in a NON NFA gun. Doing so "adapts" the weapon to fire more than 31 rounds without reloading - regardless of the number of rounds actually loaded in the mag. If you read this thread, its covered several times on the first page RC 2323.11 Weapons Control Definitions (E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges. <sigh> Thank you. This is just so dumb. Maybe we can get a bill passed, or attach it to some CHL legislation, to fix this. |
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