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Posted: 2/26/2015 8:59:17 PM EDT
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10rnd limit.
Your CHL is useless here. Must be in a locked box unloaded. And you can't just drive around with it just because. Ammo. As much as you want. Type. No tracers. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_11/577128_Travel_to_CA.html |
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Posted: 2/26/2015 9:16:09 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link
Shield only has 7 rounder, GTG So far as a "lock" box, and after reading the thread, I understand any type of lock box with a lock is G2G, there is really no specifications on it so the statement of "just driving around" would be something like, once I arrive in CA I could not have it with me, but driving into and out of I'm G2G?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
10rnd limit. Your CHL is useless here. Must be in a locked box unloaded. And you can't just drive around with it just because. Ammo. As much as you want. Type. No tracers. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_11/577128_Travel_to_CA.html |
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Posted: 2/26/2015 9:26:27 PM EDT
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you may transport the HG to and from any place you are legally allowed to have it. a range, a friend's house, a relative's house, your home, hotel room, campsite, etc.
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Posted: 2/26/2015 9:33:08 PM EDT
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ok that clears it up, thanks
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you may transport the HG to and from any place you are legally allowed to have it. a range, a friend's house, a relative's house, your home, hotel room, campsite, etc. |
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Posted: 2/26/2015 10:07:14 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link Shield only has 7 rounder, GTG So far as a "lock" box, and after reading the thread, I understand any type of lock box with a lock is G2G, there is really no specifications on it so the statement of "just driving around" would be something like, once I arrive in CA I could not have it with me, but driving into and out of I'm G2G?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thanks for the link Shield only has 7 rounder, GTG So far as a "lock" box, and after reading the thread, I understand any type of lock box with a lock is G2G, there is really no specifications on it so the statement of "just driving around" would be something like, once I arrive in CA I could not have it with me, but driving into and out of I'm G2G?? Quoted:
10rnd limit. Your CHL is useless here. Must be in a locked box unloaded. And you can't just drive around with it just because. Ammo. As much as you want. Type. No tracers. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_11/577128_Travel_to_CA.html You can drive around, that's fine. Also there is no definition of what a lock box is, but the law clearly says a glove box or center console that locks does not count. I just use something with a double zipper and put a TSA style lock through it. ETA: Also the gun can't be loaded, but the mag can be stored in the same container as the gun. |
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Posted: 2/26/2015 10:27:19 PM EDT
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Got it, thanks everyone
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You can drive around, that's fine. Also there is no definition of what a lock box is, but the law clearly says a glove box or center console that locks does not count. I just use something with a double zipper and put a TSA style lock through it. ETA: Also the gun can't be loaded, but the mag can be stored in the same container as the gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks for the link Shield only has 7 rounder, GTG So far as a "lock" box, and after reading the thread, I understand any type of lock box with a lock is G2G, there is really no specifications on it so the statement of "just driving around" would be something like, once I arrive in CA I could not have it with me, but driving into and out of I'm G2G?? Quoted:
10rnd limit. Your CHL is useless here. Must be in a locked box unloaded. And you can't just drive around with it just because. Ammo. As much as you want. Type. No tracers. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_11/577128_Travel_to_CA.html You can drive around, that's fine. Also there is no definition of what a lock box is, but the law clearly says a glove box or center console that locks does not count. I just use something with a double zipper and put a TSA style lock through it. ETA: Also the gun can't be loaded, but the mag can be stored in the same container as the gun. |
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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:08:18 AM EDT
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I just use a soft container as posted above. No limit on ammo
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Posted: 4/16/2015 12:57:39 PM EDT
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Whenever I go to CA, I try to just take what I still own that is registered with the CA DOJ from when I used to live there. I figure that may make things run smoother if my serial number ever gets checked.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 2:47:38 PM EDT
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The text of the law specifically prohibits using your glove box and/or center console for firearm storage.
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Posted: 4/16/2015 8:36:58 PM EDT
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I think it was Paul (?) who said, a paper bag folded over with a lock thru the folds would meet the legal definition of a locked container. 
Legally, it probably would. Honestly, don't do it! The text of the law specifically prohibits using your glove box and/or center console for firearm storage. Or me, yeah the law is that vague and permissive. As long as the container isn't within open reach of the driver or passengers, it should be good to go. Actually what you need to bring is rain. Lot's of it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 6:02:37 AM EDT
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I think it was Paul (?) who said, a paper bag folded over with a lock thru the folds would meet the legal definition of a locked container. I'm just guessing Paul isn't a lawyer, and doesn't practice that because he doesn't want to hire a very expensive lawyer to be the test case. I'm gonna go with "he was being sarcastic" |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 1:03:02 PM EDT
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I'm just guessing Paul isn't a lawyer, and doesn't practice that because he doesn't want to hire a very expensive lawyer to be the test case. I'm gonna go with "he was being sarcastic" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it was Paul (?) who said, a paper bag folded over with a lock thru the folds would meet the legal definition of a locked container. I'm just guessing Paul isn't a lawyer, and doesn't practice that because he doesn't want to hire a very expensive lawyer to be the test case. I'm gonna go with "he was being sarcastic" I went with "he was being humorous". Hence, the smiley. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 2:36:29 PM EDT
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I went with "he was being humorous". Hence, the smiley. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think it was Paul (?) who said, a paper bag folded over with a lock thru the folds would meet the legal definition of a locked container. I'm just guessing Paul isn't a lawyer, and doesn't practice that because he doesn't want to hire a very expensive lawyer to be the test case. I'm gonna go with "he was being sarcastic" I went with "he was being humorous". Hence, the smiley. Just making sure we don't have a visitor taking some tongue-in-cheek advice and getting themselves in trouble unnecessarily. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:05:05 PM EDT
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Any opaque container, any lock.
I use soft pistol cases with the dollar store combo locks with two of the three numbers preset and taped into place. The tape helps keep the locks together too. I had one fall apart in the back of my truck just from the ride out to the desert. In a rush I could just twist the lock off with my bare hands. Until California defines opaque contain and lock I figure I'm good-to-go. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:08:35 PM EDT
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I think it was Paul (?) who said, [redacted  ] would meet the legal definition of a locked container. Not me! If you're having to "quick draw" from your 4200 pound vehicle you're doing it wrong. The advantage of having a vehicle is that you can un-ass yourself from 99.87% of the situations you might need to legally draw a firearm. That last 0.13% is the case where you find yourself with a Glock .40 in your ear ... you're not going to outdraw that son-of-a-bitch no matter how fast you are. |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 10:41:28 PM EDT
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Okay, it wasn't Paul.
I posted it here (but didn't invent it). I put a smiley after it. I also said, "Honestly, don't do it." I do understand the confusion it could cause. Humor is difficult under the best of circumstances. On the internet, it is next to impossible. I'm going to delete the post and suggest those of you who quoted it, do likewise. |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 12:36:49 AM EDT
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It's OK. Really.
I wouldn't suggest a paper sack because your firearm could be damaged bouncing around. Non-concealable weapons like ... a 12 gauge pump shotgun or an M1 Garand do NOT have to be locked up or kept in a case. They do have to be unloaded. According to the wisdom of the General Discussion just racking the slide of a shotgun is enough to melt the hardest felon. Toss this in the back seat so if some old lady steals your parking space you can quickly grab it as she reaches for her carry piece. It might cost her her life to find out if its loaded. 
It's so sad the hundreds of Californians killed every day in these car-to-car shootings. Elsewhere in the US there's likely five to ten car-to-car shootings a year ... but here we have thousands a year. 
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Posted: 4/18/2015 12:47:19 AM EDT
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Any opaque container, any lock. I use soft pistol cases with the dollar store combo locks with two of the three numbers preset and taped into place. The tape helps keep the locks together too. I had one fall apart in the back of my truck just from the ride out to the desert. In a rush I could just twist the lock off with my bare hands. Until California defines opaque contain and lock I figure I'm good-to-go. Does it say "opaque" ?? (or is that the container counterpart of open carry?) The law is about as vague as they get. |
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