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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:35:45 AM EDT
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I welcome yet another gun owner to CA. 1) Can I bring any pistol with me from AZ to CA as long as I dont bring the standard size mags over 10rds capacity, even if this pistol is not on approved CA list (Does not have any additional safeties features to be CA compliant)? For example Springfield 1911 loaded, glock 19, M&P9, Sig P227. Savage 10 308. Any and all pistols as long as they have the magazine well inside the pistol grip, no threaded barrel, and no forward handgrip. No magazines greater than 10 rounds. Lots of us carry .45 ACP and .357 magnum revolvers substituting spray-n-pray for more effective rounds. 2) When I register the firearms, is it $19 per firearm or flat fee per registration form as long as done at same time? $19 a pistol. 
3) How difficult is it to obtain a CA CCW assuming I have no record and posses an AZ ccw. Depends on which of the state 57 counties you move to - as an example Los Anglese county it's impossible unless you're a polician, cop, judge, or body guard to a movie star - just as the 2nd Amendment intended. In other counties they're almost shall issue. The CCW laws are seeing lots of challenges and Riverside Country as example is rumored to be ready to give up and follow the Constitution. There's a dedicated CA CCW site that will be the first hit when you Google it. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:37:44 AM EDT
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You can bring in any handgun, buy any handgun you want before moving in.
Mags go to mag blocks and convert your mags before you come. For CCW that really depends on the county you plan to move to. I live in Sacramento which is shall issue if you fallow the rules. Some counties are still no issue though. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:13:03 AM EDT
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Continuing to read on CA laws I came across Single Shot Exception term, what does it mean, what the purpose of it and does it apply to me bringing pistols from AZ?
I will be moving to Nor Cal around Hayward area. Is it difficult to buy/find 10rd mags in CA at normal prices for example g19, M&P9 or any other mags? Any other recommendations, items, flashlight attachments, lasers etc.. I should bring with me that are not allowed in CA for purchase. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:16:35 AM EDT
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Dang that sucks that I have to pay $19 per pistol that I already own. Does this apply to rifles and shotguns as well?
Man Im already starting to regret for deciding to move to wonderful state of CA :) |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:25:39 AM EDT
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How about bring in ammo with me are there any limits, restrictions?
Also can I reload my own ammo in CA? Thanks |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 3:00:13 AM EDT
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How about bring in ammo with me are there any limits, restrictions? Also can I reload my own ammo in CA? Thanks no (except pistol AP) yes (assuming you can find components and/or have them shipped to you.) |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:56:50 AM EDT
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no tracer ammo, no incendiary either.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 10:01:01 AM EDT
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Any other recommendations, items, flashlight attachments, lasers etc.. I should bring with me that are not allowed in CA for purchase. if we are not allowed to have it, we are not allowed to bring it in either, generally. the big exception here is handguns; we have a list of approved handguns. not on the list, cannot buy (unless LEO). BUT a person moving in can bring unlisted handguns with him. if there is a HG you have been wanting, buy it now and bring it in legally as a"personal firearms importer." which city will you be moving to? |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 7:15:45 PM EDT
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Will be moving to Hayward area.
Can I buy these magazine cap blocks http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/glock-19-magblock-10-15-9mm.html for my standard cap mags and be CA compliant, or even with these limiters I cant use my 15rd mags? Thanks |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:06:24 AM EDT
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Continuing to read on CA laws I came across Single Shot Exception term, what does it mean, what the purpose of it and does it apply to me bringing pistols from AZ? I will be moving to Nor Cal around Hayward area. Is it difficult to buy/find 10rd mags in CA at normal prices for example g19, M&P9 or any other mags? Any other recommendations, items, flashlight attachments, lasers etc.. I should bring with me that are not allowed in CA for purchase. Bring your pistols in - no single shot exception is needed unless you're an FFL moving your business here planning to sell your inventory here. No single shot exception is needed >.< Define normal prices. Flashlights, lasers, bayonets, sharks with freaking laser beams on their head, etc are allowed for purchase in California despite what the stupid morons at Sportsmens Guide think. 
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:07:23 AM EDT
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Dang that sucks that I have to pay $19 per pistol that I already own. Does this apply to rifles and shotguns as well? Man Im already starting to regret for deciding to move to wonderful state of CA :) The $19 handgun registration fees apply to all handguns including those that are rifles and shotguns. Wait. No. The handgun registration is only for handguns. It's not too late to change your mind and not come here. 
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:08:34 AM EDT
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How about bring in ammo with me are there any limits, restrictions? Also can I reload my own ammo in CA? Thanks No incendiary/tracer or armor piercing pistol ammo (whatever that is). Do you have a press and the rest of the gear? If so, yes. My local city limits me to 25 pounds of power ... as if I could ever reload that many cartridges in a night. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:12:21 AM EDT
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However, can you please elaborate, answer my questions and even better provide the official text from that website if possible. Follow the post tacked to the top of this forum for links to the CA DOJ site. They have FAQs for people just like you coming to CA with firearms. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 3:26:22 AM EDT
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Continuing to read on CA laws I came across Single Shot Exception term, what does it mean, what the purpose of it and does it apply to me bringing pistols from AZ? I will be moving to Nor Cal around Hayward area. Is it difficult to buy/find 10rd mags in CA at normal prices for example g19, M&P9 or any other mags? Any other recommendations, items, flashlight attachments, lasers etc.. I should bring with me that are not allowed in CA for purchase. AFAIK obtaining a CCW is almost impossible in any of the 9 Bay Area counties. Frankly, you are moving to one of the strongholds of stupid Commiefornia BS. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 3:36:30 AM EDT
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I can see how it feels criminal to move here. Perhaps you should reconsider moving here and stay in AZ. Is someone forcing you to come here? It seems to me that as much as you hate moving here, CA is providing you some type of employment (based on what you said about work) which you obviously view as more important than firearms.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:34:18 AM EDT
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Will be moving to Hayward area. Thanks well the area is beautiful, the weather is cool and awesome, but you will indeed be in a liberal stronghold. not quite the 9th pit of lefty lunacy hell (SF) but next to it. you can get a CCW, all you need to do is be a cop.... |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:49:32 PM EDT
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The $19 handgun registration fees apply to all handguns including those that are rifles and shotguns. Wait. No. The handgun registration is only for handguns. It's not too late to change your mind and not come here.
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Dang that sucks that I have to pay $19 per pistol that I already own. Does this apply to rifles and shotguns as well? Man Im already starting to regret for deciding to move to wonderful state of CA :) The $19 handgun registration fees apply to all handguns including those that are rifles and shotguns. Wait. No. The handgun registration is only for handguns. It's not too late to change your mind and not come here.
The reason why I asked if rifles and shotguns also have to be registered and there was a fee of $19 per any firearm is because I stumbled on this form that lists all 3 categories of firearms. https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf? and you have stated that registration is only for handguns? Just wanted to make it clear. Thanks I know there is always a choice, however, I have to move to CA for career advancement. I dont like the gun laws there, but thats something I will need to live with for some time. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:58:43 PM EDT
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No incendiary/tracer or armor piercing pistol ammo (whatever that is). Do you have a press and the rest of the gear? If so, yes. My local city limits me to 25 pounds of power ... as if I could ever reload that many cartridges in a night. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How about bring in ammo with me are there any limits, restrictions? Also can I reload my own ammo in CA? Thanks No incendiary/tracer or armor piercing pistol ammo (whatever that is). Do you have a press and the rest of the gear? If so, yes. My local city limits me to 25 pounds of power ... as if I could ever reload that many cartridges in a night. Yes I have the press and all I need to reload 308win. Do most of the online stores like brownells, SMG, cabelas ship reloading components (brass, primers, projectiles, powder) to Hayward, CA? |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:18:02 PM EDT
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How do I know if my firearms need to be registered?
There is no firearm registration requirement in California except for assault weapon owners and personal handgun importers. However, you must submit a Firearm Ownership Report (FOR) Application (BOF 4542A), pdf to the California Department of Justice (the Department) for any firearm you are seeking return where no other record is on file with the Department identifying you as the most recent owner/possessor. Having a FOR application on file with the Department will authorize the return of your firearm in the event it is subsequently lost or stolen. With very few and specific exceptions, all firearm transactions must be conducted through a firearms dealer. If you purchased a handgun from a properly licensed California firearms dealer and underwent a background check via the state’s Dealer’s Record of Sale (DROS) process, a record of your handgun purchase is already on file with the Department. Therefore, it should not be necessary for you to submit a FOR application for handguns previously purchased in California. Unfortunately, this is not the case with regards to rifles or shotguns. Prior to January 1, 2014, the Department was prohibited by law from retaining DROS long gun information. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:26:41 PM EDT
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it's impossible unless you're a polician, cop, judge, or body guard to a movie star - just as the 2nd Amendment intended.
Sarcasm? I hope. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:49:29 PM EDT
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Yes I have the press and all I need to reload 308win. Do most of the online stores like brownells, SMG, cabelas ship reloading components (brass, primers, projectiles, powder) to Hayward, CA? I think so, but you may want to call the Chabot range to ask. they are local to Hayward, and will know. I understand it is a nice place. http://chabotgunclub.com/ |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 1:04:42 AM EDT
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I was born an raised in the East Bay, Hayward is a shithole unless you live in the hills, If you have kids i would look for a place in Castro Valley, Pleasanton, Dublin, Livermore or Fremont instead.
As far as getting a CCW permit in Alameda Co. it's not going to happen.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 5:19:36 PM EDT
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If you have a low opinion of California, Hayward will ruin this state for you forever. Unfortunately, where Hayward is located, any commute from an outside city will be a nightmare.
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Posted: 9/5/2014 2:44:05 AM EDT
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As stated above there are a couple of nice areas but overall Hayward sucks. What city is the job in?
Also Chabot is a nice range. eta Oh yeah, a carry permit in Alameda county...just forget about it. |
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Posted: 9/5/2014 11:56:57 PM EDT
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Welcome fellow gun owner. Good advice above. You may also want to read my sig line. (just changed it.)
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Posted: 9/6/2014 1:05:59 AM EDT
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It's been my experience that every city has at least one enclave that is nice. Nice sometimes means expensive/pricey. Sometimes, nice means nice, working class neighbors on a quiet, tree-lined street.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 3:02:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's been my experience that every city has at least one enclave that is nice. Nice sometimes means expensive/pricey. Sometimes, nice means nice, working class neighbors on a quiet, tree-lined street. cities in the entire Bay Area. |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 2:02:30 AM EDT
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Thank you fellas for all the good advices. My work is in Hayward, but I will be staying in Fremont. about 12miles/20 mins drive with no traffic.
Now when I called the CA Bureau of Firearms at (916) 227-7527 the guy said that I pay only $19 flat rate for as many firearms as I want to register, but I also must register the long guns as well as hanguns? Can someone confirm this, can I trust what the rep told me or they dont know what they are talking about? Also are there any additional laws that apply only to Alameda county on top of regular CA regulations? Thanks |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 2:36:13 AM EDT
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http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/pdf/ab991frm.pdf?
$19.00/handgun. The instructions say to NOT report long guns (pg. 2, 2nd paragraph). eta Holy shitsnacks, this state blows. Conflicting info from the same site. Why would they leave up obsolete info and forms? But probably the below info is correct as it has the most recent date. $19.00 total but it includes all guns. http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991 https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf? I grew up in Fremont, some of my family still live there. A metric shitload of really, really bad drivers so heads up. Fremont is okay, better than Hayward. Don't let us scare you though, Hayward is not west Oakland. You'd have to try to get in trouble in Hayward. I wouldn't choose to live there but if it was all I could afford I'm sure everything would be fine. eta Alameda county Walmarts do not sell any ammunition. Being in Fremont you can drive to Milpitas (not far) or further south and buy Walmart ammo. Oh yeah, no gun sales in any California Walmarts. Statewide. Which sucks. |
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