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Posted: 6/24/2015 8:13:34 PM EDT
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How shitty
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Posted: 6/24/2015 8:57:47 PM EDT
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you are mother fucking kidding me.
I shouldn't be surprised at all really. a good chuck of public employees are basically thieves. sold it to metal recyclers those mother fuckers. major cudos to Amendment II Armory for helping blow the whistle on these scumbags. |
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Posted: 6/24/2015 9:20:59 PM EDT
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When you really think about it; that situation is rotten on so many different levels.
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Posted: 6/24/2015 9:52:14 PM EDT
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It all starts when the Gov't gets involved....
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Posted: 6/26/2015 6:29:01 PM EDT
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So is there a phone number for this.
After leaving tens of thousands of spent casings on the ground ...thinking it was going to help junior hunters and shooters. I WANT MY BRASS BACK. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 1:55:36 PM EDT
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So is there a phone number for this. After leaving tens of thousands of spent casings on the ground ...thinking it was going to help junior hunters and shooters. I WANT MY BRASS BACK. Me too. I've been going there for 20 years. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 2:15:41 PM EDT
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Most of the RSO's there are good dudes. I'm not sure how it is at the other lines, but they've never required me to leave my brass at the 200yd range. Once you've decided to leave it, it should be forgotten. If you're a reloader, you police your brass anyway.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 5:17:41 PM EDT
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I have been saying it for years. I guess I was right.
Motherfuckers. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:12:34 AM EDT
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I'm not surprised. Last time I was there (it's been a while) one of the RSO's would sweep up the lines into a bucket, which he then took down to his truck and dumped into a tub in his truck bed. I wouldn't have even noticed except that he swept the line more than once while I was there which seemed strange.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:55:09 AM EDT
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Fuck them I'll shoot steel from now on when I'm there
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:07:44 AM EDT
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Corruption in the FFWC? Who would have thought! I HATE those bastards! Biologists are ok but the LE side is full of liars and thieves.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:37:26 AM EDT
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It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:55:39 AM EDT
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I'm not surprised. Last time I was there (it's been a while) one of the RSO's would sweep up the lines into a bucket, which he then took down to his truck and dumped into a tub in his truck bed. I wouldn't have even noticed except that he swept the line more than once while I was there which seemed strange. He didn't want to miss a single piece of brass. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:53:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers...  |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:43:29 PM EDT
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Lol that's an understatement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... I still don't know how someone didn't get killed each weekend. Too many times we'd have a cold range then as your walking back you see people loading and messing with their guns.  It was also less crowded then...can't imagine that place the last several years with all the n00bs showing up.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 6:22:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol that's an understatement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... Boy howdy!  |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:52:44 PM EDT
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Most of the RSO's there are good dudes. I'm not sure how it is at the other lines, but they've never required me to leave my brass at the 200yd range. Once you've decided to leave it, it should be forgotten. If you're a reloader, you police your brass anyway. No one can legally require you to leave your brass, it's your property until you abandon it. A private range can attempt to enforce such a rule ("once it hits the floor, it's ours") but if you don't agree with it, their only recourse is to tell you to leave (after you collect all your property) and then tell you not to come back. A public range attempting to do so would open itself up to a 5th amendment case: "[No person shall] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 4:34:32 PM EDT
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I still don't know how someone didn't get killed each weekend. Too many times we'd have a cold range then as your walking back you see people loading and messing with their guns. It was also less crowded then...can't imagine that place the last several years with all the n00bs showing up.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... I still don't know how someone didn't get killed each weekend. Too many times we'd have a cold range then as your walking back you see people loading and messing with their guns. It was also less crowded then...can't imagine that place the last several years with all the n00bs showing up.dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:38:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... I still don't know how someone didn't get killed each weekend. Too many times we'd have a cold range then as your walking back you see people loading and messing with their guns. It was also less crowded then...can't imagine that place the last several years with all the n00bs showing up.dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 6:55:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It all starts when the Gov't gets involved.... Webb was much more interesting before the arrival of range officers... I still don't know how someone didn't get killed each weekend. Too many times we'd have a cold range then as your walking back you see people loading and messing with their guns. It was also less crowded then...can't imagine that place the last several years with all the n00bs showing up.dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there.   sorry. |
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:13:51 PM EDT
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"Back in the day".....like, when you had hair?
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dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there.
sorry. yeah you remember those days...you know back when for you an erection didn't involve careful planning and pharmaceuticals. 
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Posted: 7/1/2015 9:32:41 PM EDT
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ouch
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Posted: 7/1/2015 10:19:48 PM EDT
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No one can legally require you to leave your brass, it's your property until you abandon it. A private range can attempt to enforce such a rule ("once it hits the floor, it's ours") but if you don't agree with it, their only recourse is to tell you to leave (after you collect all your property) and then tell you not to come back. A public range attempting to do so would open itself up to a 5th amendment case: "[No person shall] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of the RSO's there are good dudes. I'm not sure how it is at the other lines, but they've never required me to leave my brass at the 200yd range. Once you've decided to leave it, it should be forgotten. If you're a reloader, you police your brass anyway. No one can legally require you to leave your brass, it's your property until you abandon it. A private range can attempt to enforce such a rule ("once it hits the floor, it's ours") but if you don't agree with it, their only recourse is to tell you to leave (after you collect all your property) and then tell you not to come back. A public range attempting to do so would open itself up to a 5th amendment case: "[No person shall] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Exactly. If it was left, you knew it was going to be collected and sold. Whether or not funds went to the appropriate groups is an entirely different story. You know, kind of like where our tax money goes. |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 4:41:57 PM EDT
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Scumbags.
I buy reloading components (powder mainly) from the guys that helped in the bust, good guys! |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 6:26:28 PM EDT
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Scumbags. I buy reloading components (powder mainly) from the guys that helped in the bust, good guys! oh really?? they sell powder? |
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Posted: 7/2/2015 11:18:03 PM EDT
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oh really?? they sell powder? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Scumbags. I buy reloading components (powder mainly) from the guys that helped in the bust, good guys! oh really?? they sell powder? Manatee gun club sells powder and bullets, not cheap, but still less than paying the haz-mat shipping fee. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 12:09:46 AM EDT
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Exactly. If it was left, you knew it was going to be collected and sold. Whether or not funds went to the appropriate groups is an entirely different story. You know, kind of like where our tax money goes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of the RSO's there are good dudes. I'm not sure how it is at the other lines, but they've never required me to leave my brass at the 200yd range. Once you've decided to leave it, it should be forgotten. If you're a reloader, you police your brass anyway. No one can legally require you to leave your brass, it's your property until you abandon it. A private range can attempt to enforce such a rule ("once it hits the floor, it's ours") but if you don't agree with it, their only recourse is to tell you to leave (after you collect all your property) and then tell you not to come back. A public range attempting to do so would open itself up to a 5th amendment case: "[No person shall] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Exactly. If it was left, you knew it was going to be collected and sold. Whether or not funds went to the appropriate groups is an entirely different story. You know, kind of like where our tax money goes. One may make the argument, that the cases were donated vs.abandoned based on the signage at the range. Thus it could be argued that the state is complicit in fraud by permitting their employees to post such signage, collection and sale of the donated spent cases to the benefit of some other entity. |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 11:40:43 AM EDT
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yeah you remember those days...you know back when for you an erection didn't involve careful planning and pharmaceuticals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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dude back in the day in the summer my freinds and i had the run of that range on any given weekday. now you couldn't pay me to shoot there.
sorry. yeah you remember those days...you know back when for you an erection didn't involve careful planning and pharmaceuticals. LOL! Winner! 
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Posted: 7/3/2015 5:03:31 PM EDT
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oh really?? they sell powder? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Scumbags. I buy reloading components (powder mainly) from the guys that helped in the bust, good guys! oh really?? they sell powder? Yes |
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Posted: 7/3/2015 5:48:57 PM EDT
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There are good RSO there, it's a shame that this kind of thing goes on.
I'm sure that not all the RSO's were involved or I would like to think so I wondered if they pilfered or skimmed the cash collection box too. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 11:47:14 AM EDT
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There are good RSO there, it's a shame that this kind of thing goes on. I'm sure that not all the RSO's were involved or I would like to think so I wondered if they pilfered or skimmed the cash collection box too. Yeah really...I wouldn't be surprised if there haven't been any visitors to that park in years. 
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