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Posted: 9/24/2014 7:59:10 PM EDT
Can anyone recommend me a good gunsmith in the South Florida area (Broward) that can install an LP on a stripped lower?
Or if someone here can do it for me, I'll buy you a case of beer Thanks! |
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go to the tech forums and read the how-to. it's about 30 minutes of work, maybe 45 the first time. And that's taking your time
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Thing is I don't have any tools and would rather someone with experience do it.
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Painter's tape is your friend and cheap. Mask everything in "danger" of a punch or hammer slip. Building a lower is easy and when you finish, you'll ask "That's it?!?"
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Quoted: Painter's tape is your friend and cheap. Mask everything in "danger" of a punch or hammer slip. Building a lower is easy and when you finish, you'll ask "That's it?!?" View Quote |
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I have assembled 3-4 lowers. Trust me, if I can do it, you can. Do yourself a favor. When installing the small springs, do it under a white sheet. Cover your whole body. When it goes flying (and it will) you will be able to find it.
There are plenty of videos on line. You can do it!!!!! |
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Alright fuck it, I'm doing it myself, y'all have inspired me. I'll go to Home Depot later and get a punch set. I have tape and needle nose pliers.
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Quoted: Alright fuck it, I'm doing it myself, y'all have inspired me. I'll go to Home Depot later and get a punch set. I have tape and needle nose pliers. View Quote Eta: do not forget this part... Do not, I repeat, do not take your eyes off the detent springs. Most of us can speak from experience but when you have to put those springs under pressure to get the detent pins in, if you let go or slip those fuckers are flying. Stay away from carpet, I learned the hard way There are a few tricks on the internet to help you with that part though.
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I'm literally going to do it in my bathtub with the sink plugged, obviously.
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Alright fuck it, I'm doing it myself, y'all have inspired me. I'll go to Home Depot later and get a punch set. I have tape and needle nose pliers. View Quote If you decide not to do it yourself, and are within driving distance of Jensen Beach. Come see me at Lotus Gunworks and ill do it for free. Email me [email protected] |
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Funny enough I never did that fort first lower and it came out flawless. However, after I built 4 or so I was comfortable with it and them I managed to scratch it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Painter's tape is your friend and cheap. Mask everything in "danger" of a punch or hammer slip. Building a lower is easy and when you finish, you'll ask "That's it?!?" That's how it works. The first time you choose not to protect/lube something, that's when you'll pay the price. Neglect or forget, it'll be okay but "choose" and you'll pay. |
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Quoted: That's how it works. The first time you choose not to protect/lube something, that's when you'll pay the price. Neglect or forget, it'll be okay but "choose" and you'll pay. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Painter's tape is your friend and cheap. Mask everything in "danger" of a punch or hammer slip. Building a lower is easy and when you finish, you'll ask "That's it?!?" That's how it works. The first time you choose not to protect/lube something, that's when you'll pay the price. Neglect or forget, it'll be okay but "choose" and you'll pay. |
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If you can, order up a set of roll pin holder punches, they hold the roll pins in the end of the punch and make it way easier to start them, the worst ones are the trigger guard and the bolt catch YMMV
ETA: the front takedown pin gets honorable mention in the pain in the ass awards as well... |
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If you're ever in WPB, you can come by and I'll help you build it - you can use my tools.
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My wife works for a local manufacturer, she holds the shop record of building 5 complete lowers in 24 minutes. She spanked all the guys on the line that have been there for years. (yes, I'm very proud...and lucky)
If you have trouble, just give it to your wife/girlfriend. Seriously, it's not as hard as it looks. Just be careful and don't force anything. There are a ton of videos out there, use 'em! Have fun, but be careful. Once you build your first, you'll want to build another, and another, and another. It's highly addictive. |
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The two hardest things are the trigger guard pin and the front takedown pin.
The roll pin for the trigger guard is usually a tight fit. Just put a light oil on the pin and don't hit really hit hard or else you could break off one of the ears. The front take down pin can be hard to seat with the detent. There is a special little inexpensive tool that makes the job easier but you can do it without the tool. If you don't have the tool expect the detent pin to go flying a couple of times. Until you learn how to do it then it is best to sit on the floor facing a wall with a sheet or towel to collect the pin if it does goes flying. It is easier to install the LPK than you probably think. Anybody can do it. Just follow the steps from the internet videos. |
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If you don't have the tool expect the detent pin to go flying a couple of times. Until you learn how to do it then it is best to sit on the floor facing a wall with a sheet or towel to collect the pin if it does goes flying. View Quote Not to exaggerate but this is solid advice. Nothing kills your momentum on building a lower receiver than crawling on all fours looking for a tiny steel detent and spring. |
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Quoted: Not to exaggerate but this is solid advice. Nothing kills your momentum on building a lower receiver than crawling on all fours looking for a tiny steel detent and spring. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you don't have the tool expect the detent pin to go flying a couple of times. Until you learn how to do it then it is best to sit on the floor facing a wall with a sheet or towel to collect the pin if it does goes flying. Not to exaggerate but this is solid advice. Nothing kills your momentum on building a lower receiver than crawling on all fours looking for a tiny steel detent and spring. |
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Mercdank, if your near Deerfield beach, I will show you how to do it.. email me @ [email protected] if you want to learn
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The two hardest things are the trigger guard pin and the front takedown pin. The roll pin for the trigger guard is usually a tight fit. Just put a light oil on the pin and don't hit really hit hard or else you could break off one of the ears. The front take down pin can be hard to seat with the detent. There is a special little inexpensive tool that makes the job easier but you can do it without the tool. If you don't have the tool expect the detent pin to go flying a couple of times. Until you learn how to do it then it is best to sit on the floor facing a wall with a sheet or towel to collect the pin if it does goes flying. It is easier to install the LPK than you probably think. Anybody can do it. Just follow the steps from the internet videos. View Quote While at Home Depot pick this up for 65cents .. From the archives http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/362116_How_to_install_the_front_Pivot_Pin_using_a__1_clevis_pin___56K_death.html |
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While at Home Depot pick this up for 65cents .. From the archives http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/362116_How_to_install_the_front_Pivot_Pin_using_a__1_clevis_pin___56K_death.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The two hardest things are the trigger guard pin and the front takedown pin. The roll pin for the trigger guard is usually a tight fit. Just put a light oil on the pin and don't hit really hit hard or else you could break off one of the ears. The front take down pin can be hard to seat with the detent. There is a special little inexpensive tool that makes the job easier but you can do it without the tool. If you don't have the tool expect the detent pin to go flying a couple of times. Until you learn how to do it then it is best to sit on the floor facing a wall with a sheet or towel to collect the pin if it does goes flying. It is easier to install the LPK than you probably think. Anybody can do it. Just follow the steps from the internet videos. While at Home Depot pick this up for 65cents .. From the archives http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/362116_How_to_install_the_front_Pivot_Pin_using_a__1_clevis_pin___56K_death.html I use this trick, It's awesome. |
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I installed my last lpk in <10 min in my kitchen. Most of that time was spent getting the tools together. I am not an expert or anything, all you need are the right tools.
I use a set of self adjusting pliers wrapped in electrical tape for the trigger guard roll pin and the bolt catch. No marring or damage to receiver. For the pivot detent I use a razor to hold the tension and the pin installs in seconds. |
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TNT Firearms north broward co.
Powerline and Sample rd. On powerline just south of sample east side. Nice guy and I'm pretty sure he gives classes and had a vice there for people to use but you should have no problem doing it yourself with basic tools. Be careful this shits like heroin. Addictive. |
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A little "trick" I have been using on my last few builds to install the bolt hold back pin is to tape a tongue depressor on the side of the reciever like this. With a little tape at the end at the pin hole to hold the depressor and to protect the area around the pin hole. And another piece around the center of depressor and receiver. It protects the receiver and you just lay the hammer on it and allows it to hit the roll pin well. I hammer it in most of the way and then finish with a punch. OF course the safety lever is not going to be installed at this point. this pic is just to show where I put the depressor. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/banditman1/2014/DSCN0693_zpsbcfe883f.jpg View Quote I just use electrical tape. |
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Quoted: Quoted: A little "trick" I have been using on my last few builds to install the bolt hold back pin is to tape a tongue depressor on the side of the reciever like this. With a little tape at the end at the pin hole to hold the depressor and to protect the area around the pin hole. And another piece around the center of depressor and receiver. It protects the receiver and you just lay the hammer on it and allows it to hit the roll pin well. I hammer it in most of the way and then finish with a punch. OF course the safety lever is not going to be installed at this point. this pic is just to show where I put the depressor. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/banditman1/2014/DSCN0693_zpsbcfe883f.jpg I just use electrical tape. You are missing the benefit from my method. Two pieces of painters tape and you can slide the hammer on the smooth surface of the depressor. It is as close as you can get to a straight shot on the pin without risking damage to the receiver. But what ever works for you. |
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Mecdank, you should just take Ira up with his offer to help. He has put together more than just a couple.
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Quoted: I did it! Just need the receiver extension parts to finish it. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/mercdank/20140928_222226_zpshg2qq7vh.jpg View Quote now go buy a few more
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I did it! Just need the receiver extension parts to finish it. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/mercdank/20140928_222226_zpshg2qq7vh.jpg now go buy a few more I've still got another waiting for a LPK |
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Your sights on backwards Congrats! Now go build the rest of it and go shoot.
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