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GlockBeni
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Posted: 6/27/2012 11:30:09 AM

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I'm in the process of going into the police academy and wondering once all is said and done is the transition to becoming a full time officer difficult? Are they actually hiring?
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Posted: 6/27/2012 5:23:56 PM
All depends on where you're looking to go. Budgets are junk right now, so alot of open positions aren't being filled.
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Posted: 6/27/2012 6:42:15 PM
With departments facing lingering budget woes, some places are doing without. Vacancies are going unfilled and programs are being cut. However, it's not doom and gloom all over the state. Our agency has weathered the economic storm over the past several years quite well. How? We are lucky in a sense as a major part of our county consists of a high-end golf community. With home owners who actually pay their taxes and support local business, the money to support our budget is there. While the housing industry has been in the dump, our area continues to grow and that's another solid financial advantage.

We did go without pay raises in 08,09, and 2010. But most of us realized that it was just part of the BIGGER problem facing the nation. We're doing good now and have money for personnel, training, and equipment.

I'll go even further and sign praises to our administrative leadership that led us through the tough times. No... I'm not sucking ass, I'm just calling it like it is. I work for a great agency filled with great people... it's that simple.

My advise to you is DO NOT limit yourself to a specific geographical area. You may have to put applications out all around and wait for a response. Don't under estimate the power of diverse credentials. Having a HS Diploma when others have AA degrees or BS degrees is going to cost you. Having no significant work place experience when others have been in management positions may hurt you. Having no military training or experience when matched up against those who do will more then likely hurt you. Other than the academy, what else do you have to offer an employer?

Getting a job is a fine combination of credentials, persistence, and luck. Where are you located? We are still hiring as needs arise... we may be taking over the local PD which will require eight more officers.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 9:29:37 AM
Who the hell wants to be a cop?

Rolling around solo only to be called "honkey" and shit?

Did I mention you're alone? In a car with a big ass "Shoot me" cherry top on it?

Scariest job imaginable. Iraq was a cakewalk compared to what SPPD sees at 2am.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 11:16:12 AM
You are in the process of starting the academy but dont know who is hiring?? This sounds a little weird!!! Are you sponsoring yourself? Did you not do any homework?
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Posted: 6/28/2012 11:22:55 AM
Yeah I looked around but with way things are going who really knows what's going on. I am sponsoring myself. A lot of local departments claim to not be sponsoring at the moment due to budget etc. Who wouldn't want to be an officer? Seems like a awesome job. Plus a lot of companies give Leo discounts.... That just means more toys for a little cheaper LOL...
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Posted: 6/28/2012 1:42:38 PM
Originally Posted By GuyinFL:
Who the hell wants to be a cop?

Rolling around solo only to be called "honkey" and shit?

Did I mention you're alone? In a car with a big ass "Shoot me" cherry top on it?

Scariest job imaginable. Iraq was a cakewalk compared to what SPPD sees at 2am.


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Posted: 6/28/2012 1:45:15 PM
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You are in the process of starting the academy but dont know who is hiring?? This sounds a little weird!!! Are you sponsoring yourself? Did you not do any homework?


Not weird at all... most departments won't consider you unless you have been to the academy and successfully passed the state exam. Not many places hire you these days and train you on their dime... there are very few who will.
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Posted: 6/28/2012 10:55:38 PM
As far as I know the only agencies that are sponsoring people these days are corrections. And that is only because no one would bother to go to the academy if they were not being paid.

I remember snipers, IDF, and explosions in Iraq. Not a lot of that in LE work in my area of FL. I will take gangbangers that shoot sideways over Shiite assholes trained by the Quds force and packing real military hardware anyday.
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Originally Posted By Aikibiker:

I remember snipers, IDF, and explosions in Iraq. Not a lot of that in LE work in my area of FL. I will take gangbangers that shoot sideways over Shiite assholes trained by the Quds force and packing real military hardware anyday.


Makes sense - but remember, we only deployed for X amount of months. Right? How dangerous is being a Marine (in my case) while stationed in California...not very.

These guys are in the shit every day, every shift, for 20+ years. You never know if the guy you're pulling over outside the local 7-11 3 blocks away from your house is going to pull out a HiPower and blow your face away. Not to mention you always have to look over your shoulder for that guy you collared 10 years earlier thats still pissed at you.

I think our LEOs deserve way more credit than anyone in the military, and the danger they face is exponentially higher than anyone - even Soldiers and Marines in theater.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 12:03:10 PM
I can't go with MORE respect, but I can say they BOTH deserve the utmost respect. I give it to them anyway!
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Posted: 6/29/2012 4:56:44 PM
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Originally Posted By ycastane:
You are in the process of starting the academy but dont know who is hiring?? This sounds a little weird!!! Are you sponsoring yourself? Did you not do any homework?


Most people down here are self-sponsored. A lot of agencies don't have the coin to put up and take a chance on you.

I just graduated June 4th and took my state exam two days ago, waiting on the results and filling out applications now.


OP, if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me a PM.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 5:09:56 PM
Where are go to school?

What part of the state are you looking to work in?
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Posted: 6/29/2012 5:10:59 PM
Originally Posted By floridahunter07:
Originally Posted By ycastane:
You are in the process of starting the academy but dont know who is hiring?? This sounds a little weird!!! Are you sponsoring yourself? Did you not do any homework?


Most people down here are self-sponsored. A lot of agencies don't have the coin to put up and take a chance on you.

I just graduated June 4th and took my state exam two days ago, waiting on the results and filling out applications now.


OP, if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me a PM.


floridahunter07 did you graduate from WTI?
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Posted: 6/29/2012 8:50:38 PM
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Originally Posted By GuyinFL:
Originally Posted By Aikibiker:

I remember snipers, IDF, and explosions in Iraq. Not a lot of that in LE work in my area of FL. I will take gangbangers that shoot sideways over Shiite assholes trained by the Quds force and packing real military hardware anyday.


Makes sense - but remember, we only deployed for X amount of months. Right? How dangerous is being a Marine (in my case) while stationed in California...not very.

These guys are in the shit every day, every shift, for 20+ years. You never know if the guy you're pulling over outside the local 7-11 3 blocks away from your house is going to pull out a HiPower and blow your face away. Not to mention you always have to look over your shoulder for that guy you collared 10 years earlier thats still pissed at you.

I think our LEOs deserve way more credit than anyone in the military, and the danger they face is exponentially higher than anyone - even Soldiers and Marines in theater.


Different jobs, each with different dangers. As a LEO who was never .mil I have a lot of respect for our military and feel no need to compete over respect, they have mine.

To the OP, jobs are available but there are a lot of applicants for a few jobs, at least at the more desireable agencies. You will want to make yourself as marketable as possible (ie, do you have a degree/military service experience/other characteristics that make you stand out?). It always helps to know someone with influence in the agency. You may need to work somewhere smaller or less desireable initially until you get experience. That said, if you have a specific place you want to work, try to get hired there before you "shotgun" applications everywhere. Many places want to hear that you want to work for them and not just whoever will take you.
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Posted: 6/30/2012 1:11:33 AM
Originally Posted By c350z:
Originally Posted By floridahunter07:
Originally Posted By ycastane:
You are in the process of starting the academy but dont know who is hiring?? This sounds a little weird!!! Are you sponsoring yourself? Did you not do any homework?


Most people down here are self-sponsored. A lot of agencies don't have the coin to put up and take a chance on you.

I just graduated June 4th and took my state exam two days ago, waiting on the results and filling out applications now.


OP, if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me a PM.


floridahunter07 did you graduate from WTI?


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Posted: 6/30/2012 6:10:17 AM
Originally Posted By gunnut284:
As a LEO who was never .mil I have a lot of respect for our military and feel no need to compete over respect, they have mine.


This is the case with me and I agree very much with this statement.
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To the best of my knowledge only a single person of two classes was sponsored when I was in the law enforcement program. It's very uncommon.

Recipe to get sponsored from an agency (presuming they do that sort of thing)

1. be a minority/female
2. have a bachelors degree in anything but preferably something related to LE
3. good record etc
4. good grades
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Posted: 6/30/2012 12:43:22 PM
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Originally Posted By GuyinFL:


I think our LEOs deserve way more credit than anyone in the military, and the danger they face is exponentially higher than anyone - even Soldiers and Marines in theater.


That is the most ignorant statement I think I have seen posted on the internet.... Both jobs deserve equal respect, along with the other professions that serve their community and country.

Plano Tx is the safest city in the US, do the Police there deserve less respect compared to the Police in Detroit the most dangerous city? You should also look up some numbers to back up your ridiculous assertion.

2011- 418 US Deaths in Afghanistan, 5183 wounded Afghanistan and how many of those wounded have life altering wounds, loss of limbs or are permanently disfigured. compared to 173 Law Enforcement Officer deaths.

BOTTOM LINE, each LEO, Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Airmen, Coast Guardsmen, or First Responder ALL deserve our respect, and they have 100% of mine.

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Posted: 6/30/2012 12:55:43 PM
Military and Leo both deserve to be applauded for their bravery in protecting our freedom both near(in the is) and far(over seas) but I didn't want to get a Post tending on who is better. My next question is does weapons training course look good pm resumes? As far to say I take a couple carbine and handgun course Maybe even a Leo operations course would that be give me an edge?
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Posted: 6/30/2012 5:32:45 PM
Originally Posted By GlockBeni:
Military and Leo both deserve to be applauded for their bravery in protecting our freedom both near(in the is) and far(over seas) but I didn't want to get a Post tending on who is better. My next question is does weapons training course look good pm resumes? As far to say I take a couple carbine and handgun course Maybe even a Leo operations course would that be give me an edge?


Could be a double edged sword depending on who you are applying/interviewing with. Could be viewed as a plus that you are seeking safe firearms training on your own, or could be viewed as a yahoo looking to shoot something at the first chance.

Personally I might be a tad reluctant to list firearms training courses that I've attended short of say, range safety officer, that sort of thing.

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Posted: 7/1/2012 6:44:45 AM
I probably would not mention your prior firearms training.
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Nothing wrong with being a "gun guy" but avoid bringing it up as an applicant. Firearms are a crucial skill for law enforcement when needed, but are only one skill set of many that you need. Same goes if you have taken martial arts/fighting classes. The stuff you would want to bring up is language skills training, medical training, or any training or volunteer type work (like big brothers-big sisters, guardian ad litem or whatever) you may have that could be a benefit to the department. When you get to the firearms class in the academy, dont bring up the firearm classes either. Just go with the program, do it the way they teach it, hopefully ace firearms class and get a "top gun" award.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:30:41 AM
Originally Posted By GlockBeni:
As far to say I take a couple carbine and handgun course Maybe even a Leo operations course would that be give me an edge?


No. Experience in firearms and firearms training takes a LOW position on the list of skills and experience preferred of new employees (during the pre-employment process and screening). In fact, to highlight such interests could paint you in a negative manner. Most cops, and even MORE administrators are NOT gun enthusiasts.

Having previous jobs that require extensive interaction with the public, military experience, advanced academic schooling beyond HS, Advanced Technical Training beyond HS, civic involvement in the community, those are the important categories we look at when deciding who gets the call.

Don't bring up firearms... PERIOD. If asked a question(s) about firearms such as have you ever handled one or have you ever fired one?... a simple "yes, I'm familiar with and comfortable around firearms" is ALL any agency should be interested in hearing.

If asked to elaborate, as in a manner to qualify your statement, then simply state you have taken professionally or commercially conducted courses and leave it at that.
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^^^Agree with all this.
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+2 on the great advice from Hero
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