 awew911 
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Posted: 2/20/2012 11:39:56 PM
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new-arguy
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Posted: 2/21/2012 7:46:22 AM
Thanks boss. Missed you out there!
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Posted: 2/21/2012 9:23:04 PM
Originally Posted By new-arguy:
Thanks boss. Missed you out there! Very welcome... The scores have been posted. CFDCC Scores If you see any issues, please let me know. Lots of shooters. Crazy score sheets with all sorts of craziness going on. 
See some of you on Sunday!! |
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jBoy723
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Posted: 2/21/2012 9:48:10 PM
Thanks E...We need to clearly have ALL the RO's on the same page as far as how each stage is intended to be ran. I understand there are slight variations that can happen but, seeing some of the videos posted and watching some other squads shoot, not everyone is one the same page even after the RO have done a detailed walk through prior to the match..
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Posted: 2/22/2012 1:32:05 AM
Excluding the shooters from the walkthrough strikes me as a Very Bad Idea, since it translated into a single failure point for communicating stage requirements and description...if the RO misses just one single detail, an entire squad is going to wind up doing it wrong.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 6:14:36 AM
Originally Posted By WesJanson:
Excluding the shooters from the walkthrough strikes me as a Very Bad Idea, since it translated into a single failure point for communicating stage requirements and description...if the RO misses just one single detail, an entire squad is going to wind up doing it wrong. I agree; however, with 70+ shooters, that also would have been a cluster fuck. I think we difinately need stage descriptions, even though they are usually not detailed enough to answer all questions. It's just hard for a SO to try to memorize 6 different stages in 5 minutes, then have everyone run it the same. The answer is probably somewhere in between; have discriptions and allow extra squad members on the walk-through. |
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new-arguy
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Posted: 2/22/2012 8:11:53 AM
Bleh, 8th. Not as well as I would have hoped. Man, we had *17* shooters in our squad!!! No wonder it was taking us a while to cycle through.
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Posted: 2/22/2012 8:27:46 AM
There are a couple of things that can be done to reduce inconsistencies between squads.
1) Better written course description to be left near COF 2) Possibly having a single RO stay at each COF (have a 'backup' RO there to allow the main RO to run the other COF's quickly - benefit of being an RO) We know this is an issue and we're working on a solution. No sense to put everyone together in the results if we can't have consistency between squads. |
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new-arguy
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Posted: 2/22/2012 10:30:52 AM
Originally Posted By awew911:
2) Possibly having a single RO stay at each COF (have a 'backup' RO there to allow the main RO to run the other COF's quickly - benefit of being an RO) I like this idea best. I know it isn't as simple as just this, but I think this is the idea (that I've heard) to be expanded on. |
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Posted: 2/22/2012 9:01:52 PM
I saw a lot of shooters at this event. Record attendance?
A lot of new shooters and apparently some green guys as well. A ND thrown in the mix as well. I must admit it had to be coming. I herd noises about the discrepencies mentioned here and would just like to say the RO's must have done a good job. Thank you . |
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Mattyvac
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Posted: 2/22/2012 10:19:08 PM
Originally Posted By ALAN308:
I saw a lot of shooters at this event. Record attendance? A lot of new shooters and apparently some green guys as well. A ND thrown in the mix as well. I must admit it had to be coming. I herd noises about the discrepencies mentioned here and would just like to say the RO's must have done a good job. Thank you . I didn't hear of the ND...was it at least in a safe direction? Yikes. I believe it was near record attendance, there have been days of 60 or so shooters before, upwards of 80 once I think for the FDCC anniversary match? |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 1:22:18 AM
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By ALAN308:
I saw a lot of shooters at this event. Record attendance? A lot of new shooters and apparently some green guys as well. A ND thrown in the mix as well. I must admit it had to be coming. I herd noises about the discrepencies mentioned here and would just like to say the RO's must have done a good job. Thank you . I didn't hear of the ND...was it at least in a safe direction? Yikes. I believe it was near record attendance, there have been days of 60 or so shooters before, upwards of 80 once I think for the FDCC anniversary match? I know of one DQ, but it was for a safety violation (slinging a loaded chambered unsafe rifle), didn't hear of any NDs...details? |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 3:14:02 AM
Originally Posted By new-arguy:
Originally Posted By awew911:
2) Possibly having a single RO stay at each COF (have a 'backup' RO there to allow the main RO to run the other COF's quickly - benefit of being an RO) I like this idea best. I know it isn't as simple as just this, but I think this is the idea (that I've heard) to be expanded on. The only problem with this is that it then becomes a real job for the RO. Most of us go to these shoots to hang with friends and bust balls. I like to RO occasionally but that's because I'm with the same guys every month and we like to compete against each other at the different stages. I guess just standing at one stage all day especially if we maintain the amount of shooters we had could get old real quick. It would be up to the individual RO but I know out of the three people qualified to RO in our squad that idea is going to fall flat. Ultimately this idea is the best it's just going to be hard to find and keep a RO willing to do this every month. |
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jBoy723
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Posted: 2/23/2012 11:39:00 AM
Originally Posted By journeyman01:
Originally Posted By new-arguy:
Originally Posted By awew911:
2) Possibly having a single RO stay at each COF (have a 'backup' RO there to allow the main RO to run the other COF's quickly - benefit of being an RO) I like this idea best. I know it isn't as simple as just this, but I think this is the idea (that I've heard) to be expanded on. The only problem with this is that it then becomes a real job for the RO. Most of us go to these shoots to hang with friends and bust balls. I like to RO occasionally but that's because I'm with the same guys every month and we like to compete against each other at the different stages. I guess just standing at one stage all day especially if we maintain the amount of shooters we had could get old real quick. It would be up to the individual RO but I know out of the three people qualified to RO in our squad that idea is going to fall flat. Ultimately this idea is the best it's just going to be hard to find and keep a RO willing to do this every month. I definitely agree with this. I've RO'd a few times myself and that was only to keep all the guys I came down with together in the same squad. It makes for good times being able to hang out with your friends in a competitive environment. |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 12:21:57 PM
There are two ways to enforce consistency.
1) Same RO for the stage 2) Well documented stage description with RO's that UNDERSTAND and know how to implement said descriptions and are prepared to score the stages the same way as the other RO's. Like I said, we are aware of the issue and are working towards finding a solution. This problem is NOT unique to our club / match. See this: IDPA article |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 4:23:18 PM
Originally Posted By WesJanson:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By ALAN308:
I saw a lot of shooters at this event. Record attendance? A lot of new shooters and apparently some green guys as well. A ND thrown in the mix as well. I must admit it had to be coming. I herd noises about the discrepencies mentioned here and would just like to say the RO's must have done a good job. Thank you . I didn't hear of the ND...was it at least in a safe direction? Yikes. I believe it was near record attendance, there have been days of 60 or so shooters before, upwards of 80 once I think for the FDCC anniversary match? I know of one DQ, but it was for a safety violation (slinging a loaded chambered unsafe rifle), didn't hear of any NDs...details? Range master handled it. I do not want to dwell on it but will say small feet / shoe size saved the day. [Yikes]. |
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