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Posted: 2/20/2012 1:46:59 PM
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zaskar017
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Posted: 2/20/2012 2:47:15 PM
I don't remember this from 6 years ago and the article doesn't give too many details other than the fact the author doesn't like the stand your ground law.
From what I gathered; tow guy tried to tow dead guy's car ??? dead guy drives toward tow guy tow guy shoots dead guy through passenger side window as he drives by imminent threat as car is driving towards you, but not so much as it drives past you. tow guy probably won't get off |
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Posted: 2/20/2012 2:59:42 PM
Originally Posted By zaskar017: I don't remember this from 6 years ago and the article doesn't give too many details other than the fact the author doesn't like the stand your ground law. From what I gathered; tow guy tried to tow dead guy's car ??? dead guy drives toward tow guy tow guy shoots dead guy through passenger side window as he drives by imminent threat as car is driving towards you, but not so much as it drives past you. tow guy probably won't get off I concur |
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Posted: 2/20/2012 4:12:56 PM
SGB, I figured you'd recall this case (?). It's been 6 years since it happened and close to 3 since any new news has been posted about it, so it's been a while.
Personally, I think Montanez is guilty as the day is long. |
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Posted: 2/20/2012 4:47:38 PM
Originally Posted By SGB:
Originally Posted By zaskar017:
I don't remember this from 6 years ago and the article doesn't give too many details other than the fact the author doesn't like the stand your ground law. From what I gathered; tow guy tried to tow dead guy's car ??? dead guy drives toward tow guy tow guy shoots dead guy through passenger side window as he drives by imminent threat as car is driving towards you, but not so much as it drives past you. tow guy probably won't get off I concur Agreed. |
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Posted: 2/20/2012 7:53:23 PM
Here's a point of order about the tow truck driver: In Florida, recovery agents are not allowed to carry weapons or firearms in the line of duty, IAW FS 493.6115. I am not a lawyer or attorney, but I do have some experience with reading these guidelines and regulations. Just my .02.
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Posted: 2/20/2012 8:18:30 PM
[Last Edit: 2/20/2012 8:27:45 PM by ReefRaider]
Originally Posted By BrattaTampa:
Here's a point of order about the tow truck driver: In Florida, recovery agents are not allowed to carry weapons or firearms in the line of duty, IAW FS 493.6115. I am not a lawyer or attorney, but I do have some experience with reading these guidelines and regulations. Just my .02. He was not doing a repo. The car was towed from by the MONS. The dead guy parked in the wrong place. As a side note. I REPOed on the side for a couple of years. Never carried a gun . Just kept a very large can of wasp spray on the back of the truck. 
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Posted: 2/21/2012 8:36:50 AM
Originally Posted By SoFloTRD:
SGB, I figured you'd recall this case (?). It's been 6 years since it happened and close to 3 since any new news has been posted about it, so it's been a while. Personally, I think Montanez is guilty as the day is long. Based on the article, it is a bad shoot. |
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Posted: 2/21/2012 7:32:50 PM
Originally Posted By sigp226:
Originally Posted By SoFloTRD:
SGB, I figured you'd recall this case (?). It's been 6 years since it happened and close to 3 since any new news has been posted about it, so it's been a while. Personally, I think Montanez is guilty as the day is long. Based on the article, it is a bad shoot. Agreed |
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Posted: 2/22/2012 8:04:44 PM
It's not sounding to good for Senior Montanez at this point in the testimony.
911 call of tow truck shooting: 'They're pulling guns on people' |
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Posted: 2/23/2012 10:15:07 PM
[Last Edit: 2/23/2012 10:16:35 PM by OrangeLazarus]
Originally Posted By AR18:
Originally Posted By sigp226:
Originally Posted By SoFloTRD:
SGB, I figured you'd recall this case (?). It's been 6 years since it happened and close to 3 since any new news has been posted about it, so it's been a while. Personally, I think Montanez is guilty as the day is long. Based on the article, it is a bad shoot. Agreed Yeah should be interesting to see what the jury comes back with but it sounds like a lot more than just a bad shoot from everything that has been reported locally. Also, some of the local tow truck operators are felons, tow people's cars iillegally and run scams. Like - Vacant lot, people park there , all the sudden a tow sign is placed in the lot and peoples cars are hijacked. Shit like this happens all the time in Ybor city and most people despise tow operators, especially after the local news ran some stories about all the illegal and crooked things these guys do. I'm not sure what happened in this case , but I find it odd that a bunch of tow trucks were taking peoples cars to a vacant lot a few blocks away instead of to impound. |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:15:09 AM
Originally Posted By OrangeLazarus:
Originally Posted By AR18:
Originally Posted By sigp226:
Originally Posted By SoFloTRD:
SGB, I figured you'd recall this case (?). It's been 6 years since it happened and close to 3 since any new news has been posted about it, so it's been a while. Personally, I think Montanez is guilty as the day is long. Based on the article, it is a bad shoot. Agreed Yeah should be interesting to see what the jury comes back with but it sounds like a lot more than just a bad shoot from everything that has been reported locally. Also, some of the local tow truck operators are felons, tow people's cars iillegally and run scams. Like - Vacant lot, people park there , all the sudden a tow sign is placed in the lot and peoples cars are hijacked. Shit like this happens all the time in Ybor city and most people despise tow operators, especially after the local news ran some stories about all the illegal and crooked things these guys do. I'm not sure what happened in this case , but I find it odd that a bunch of tow trucks were taking peoples cars to a vacant lot a few blocks away instead of to impound. There were all kinds of things this guy (Montanez) did that were not legal as far as towing cars. Not to mention he has a reputation as a slimy tow operator and has screwed many people over with illegal or unjust towing. But, this particular incident is in relation to him shooting and killing a man after a questionable tow. I've felt it's Murder 2 from the start and I've been following this case for a while. Latest update on what's happeneing: Jurors go to the scene in case of fatal towing shooting |
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Posted: 2/26/2012 10:20:47 AM
I live in the tampa area where this happened, not a good shoot. The tow truck driver did many things wrong.
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Posted: 2/28/2012 10:05:16 AM
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Posted: 3/1/2012 7:37:22 PM
[Last Edit: 3/1/2012 7:53:08 PM by OrangeLazarus]
Originally Posted By SoFloTRD:
Originally Posted By OrangeLazarus:
Originally Posted By AR18:
Originally Posted By sigp226:
Originally Posted By SoFloTRD:
SGB, I figured you'd recall this case (?). It's been 6 years since it happened and close to 3 since any new news has been posted about it, so it's been a while. Personally, I think Montanez is guilty as the day is long. Based on the article, it is a bad shoot. Agreed Yeah should be interesting to see what the jury comes back with but it sounds like a lot more than just a bad shoot from everything that has been reported locally. Also, some of the local tow truck operators are felons, tow people's cars iillegally and run scams. Like - Vacant lot, people park there , all the sudden a tow sign is placed in the lot and peoples cars are hijacked. Shit like this happens all the time in Ybor city and most people despise tow operators, especially after the local news ran some stories about all the illegal and crooked things these guys do. I'm not sure what happened in this case , but I find it odd that a bunch of tow trucks were taking peoples cars to a vacant lot a few blocks away instead of to impound. There were all kinds of things this guy (Montanez) did that were not legal as far as towing cars. Not to mention he has a reputation as a slimy tow operator and has screwed many people over with illegal or unjust towing. But, this particular incident is in relation to him shooting and killing a man after a questionable tow. I've felt it's Murder 2 from the start and I've been following this case for a while. Latest update on what's happeneing: Jurors go to the scene in case of fatal towing shooting Well you were very close !! . The jury came back with Murder 3, Manslaughter, aggravated assault and shooting into an occupied vehicle IIRC from what the news said tonight. He is due to be sentenced in May and can face 40+ years. From the way it has been reported it sounds like the guy was already driving away and tow driver's life wan't in danger but he decided simply shoot and kill the driver for taking his car. The driver was not trying to run him or his employees over just trying to get away with his car. From the testimony it also sounded like the tow driver was brandishing his gun and pointing it's laser at people in the crowd and taunting them. Then after he shot the driver he taunted the guys brother. I think this was more than just a bad shoot and the jury agreed. Also, Since the tow driver and his workers basically towed the autos from a legal parking place and had no authority to tow the cars and were in fact trespassing when they delivered the autos to the vacant lot , the procsecutor considers the towing of the vehicles to be grand theft auto so he and the other drivers could also be charged with that crime. Typical slime ball tow tactics in Tampa has gotten a man killed. The city has refused to regulate these criminals - hopefully they will wake up. |
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