FFL transfers are required when you are shipping a firearm between two individuals in two different states.   If you are shipping the shotgun to yourself in another state, all you need to do is pack it up and take it to the post office (assuming it's legal to possess in the destination state).

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearms-interstate-his-or-her-use-hunting-or-other-lawful-activity

I should have brought one with me, but I didn't.  I was looking to buy one off the web and have it delivered to the local ffl in Tampa   Thankfully I did not buy first and find this out later

Perfectly, 100% legal. Find a different FFL.

Long guns can be transferred by an FFL in any state to a resident of any state (baring any state laws prohibiting this - there might be a couple, but Florida is not one of them) as long as the FFL follows the laws of both states involved: In your case CO and FL.

Now I have to asked what exactly you mean by "FL property owner"? Is it vacant land or income property or do you actually live (making a home in ATF language) here while in Florida. If it's the latter, then your are a resident of Florida for Firearms purchases are concerned.

All you need to do is show your CO DL as an ID document and some government document (property tax bill) as proof of residence.

https://www.atf.gov/file/55496/download

But in answer to your question, yes you need to find a FFL that understand the law and is willing to do this type of transfer - many don't because they have to be aware of the law of the other state and some just don't want to be bothered.

If the FFL is saying it's illegal, he is ignorant and should be shunned.

He doesn't need an ffl for what he wants to do.  He can just ship it to himself in the destination state and avoid this headache entirely.  See my post above.

Thanks guys, I'm a snowbear stuck in my place on upper tampa bay for the winter, I just didn't bring any long guns this trip.  I will dig deeper into this, but prolly try another ffl.   If I can get a pic of the document the FFL refusing to do my transfer has, I'll put it up here for reference.  
 I usually bring a rifle and mags just for the 2400 mile trip, IDK why in the hell I did not do it this year.

Thanks again, have a prosperous new year.

Obviously you can go whatever route you want. But, I don't understand why you would get an FFL involved when you do not need to. Federal law clearly states you can ship the rifle to yourself interstate. No need for an FFL if you ship it to yourself even interstate.

On a very related note, US Postal Service regulations also allow you to ship it to yourself interstate. They are the only carrier that will do this.

https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2011/pb22321/html/updt_001.htm

I'm wanting to buy the shotty while I am in FL.  The FFL in FL is just being overly cautious I'm sure.

Gotcha.  I thought you were looking at bringing your shotgun down.

theres nothing stopping me from starting  the FL CHL/CWP process before I move there is there? looks like I can do everything by mail. or should I wait until I move there and just go to the office? I have a valid SC CWP until the FL is approved.

 Either option will work for you. It's just your preference.

Here now, my appt is Tuesday. How long do they usually take?

Also, the cwp will allow me to purchase guns in this state without getting the Seperate state ID? Or does the cwp go in tandem with a state Id/DL?

Not getting a fl DL due to being in military. And my orders are to Ga but living in Florida

I'm told they are taking 2-3 weeks.  Not sure about firearm purchasing.  Best bet is to ask your local fun shop.

Ok good. Ct was taking 6+ months

Carrying in Indian Casinos?

It's  legal subject to the laws of the State of Florida which treat Indian owned casinos the same as any other business in the state.

In Florida, none of that "sovereign nation", "they have their own laws" nonsense applies.

While the Indian Reservations have their own tribal police, which have jurisdiction on and off of the reservation, they do not have their own court system and are subject to the laws of The State of Florida in civil and criminal matters.


"285.16Civil and criminal jurisdiction; Indian reservation.

(1)The State of Florida hereby assumes jurisdiction over criminal offenses committed by or against Indians or other persons within Indian reservations and over civil causes of actions between Indians or other persons or to which Indians or other persons are parties rising within Indian reservations.

(2)The civil and criminal laws of Florida shall obtain on all Indian reservations in this state and shall be enforced in the same manner as elsewhere throughout the state."

The problem is the state law conflicts directly with federal law which precedes it. This fight has been going on in this state for quite some time.

I know for a fact, that the Miccosukee police department does see Indian Land as federal land. one step further, I have several documented cases of Law Enforcement Officers being arrested for carrying on the casino.

The casino is simply another business located in the State of Florida; I just returned from the Semnole Hard Rock Casino a few minutes ago.

There is one exception granted to the Indian Casinos; if an individual is injured on the property, the maximum for which a single individual can sue for his injuries is $200,000 and the aggregate for any single occurrence is $300,000 unless the tribe itself agrees to be liable for higher damages.

But it's not illegal for a licensee to carry a CCW in Indian Casinos in The State of Florida, except of course in any casino sports venue while  a professional athletic event  is taking place, or in any of  the several bar areas.



BTW: there were some unsavory characters wandering around on the property outside the casino building and I didn't see a single tribal police officer other than one at the street leve entrance to the parking lot.

I suppose Floridians with CCWs who are fequenting the casinos while carrying large amounts of cash, or who may be presumed to be carrying cash by criminals, would be carrying at the casino.

I also believe that the Casio management isn't stupid and understands this as well, which likely accounts for the fact that there aren't any "No Firearms Allowed" signs posted outside the entrances to the property including the entrances to the parking lots, elevators,  the casino and such.

There is an inconspicuous sign with small print on a post somewhere on one of the walkways that says among a litany of other things,  "no weapons allowed including pocket knives...........no skate boards, roller blades........"

And there's a "security policy" sign inside the casino that mentions "no fireworks, knives, tear gas, firearms.....or anything else that poses a danger t the casino employees or guests......blah blah blah..may result in trespass."


If I were to legally carry at the Seminole Hard Rock Casino myself, I would choose to pocket carry a M&P 9c in a Desantis Nemisis for deep concealment rather than my usual P220 Carry IWB.


Here, in its entirety, is the law, which as noted within, is in accordance with federal law:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0200-0299/0285/0285.html

In for the excellent analysis

Private face to face sales in The State of Florida:





Florida has no state law  requiring a background check for a Private Firearm Sale In Florida or on the purchaser of a firearm when the seller is not a licensed dealer.

However, the Florida Constitution permits counties to adopt laws that would require such background checks for sales occurring in or on “property to which the public has the right of access” within the county.



Article Vlll Section 5(b) of  The Florida Constitution states that, “each county shall have the authority to require a criminal history records check…in connection with the sale of any firearm occurring within such county.

"1 The term “sale” under this section “means the transfer of money or other valuable consideration for any firearm when any part of the transaction is conducted on property to which the public has the right of access.”

2 Concealed weapons permit holders are not subject to these laws


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Palm Beach County, for one, requires background checks for private sales made to non CCW holders "on property to which the public has the right of access" so in PBC it's smart to request to see your customer's Concealed Firearms and Weapons License if you're conducting the sale at a gun show, or in the parking lot behind Publix.

It's best to know the law in the particular county where you intend to conduct a private face to face sale.


Fla. Const. art. VIII, § 5(b)


SECTION 5. Local option.—


(a) Local option on the legality or prohibition of the sale of intoxicating liquors, wines or beers shall be preserved to each county. The status of a county with respect thereto shall be changed only by vote of the electors in a special election called upon the petition of twenty-five per cent of the electors of the county, and not sooner than two years after an earlier election on the same question. Where legal, the sale of intoxicating liquors, wines and beers shall be regulated by law.

(b) Each county shall have the authority to require a criminal history records check and a 3 to 5-day waiting period, excluding weekends and legal holidays, in connection with the sale of any firearm occurring within such county. For purposes of this subsection, the term “sale” means the transfer of money or other valuable consideration for any firearm when any part of the transaction is conducted on property to which the public has the right of access. Holders of a concealed weapons permit as prescribed by general law shall not be subject to the provisions of this subsection when purchasing a firearm.


History.—Am. proposed by Constitution Revision Commission, Revision No. 12, 1998, filed with the Secretary of State May 5, 1998; adopted 1998.




Link to the Florida State Constitution:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?submenu=3#A8

Great write up, this is a great asset to have.  The part about disney and universal should be editted.  Disney now uses metal detectors ramdomly and universal has airport style security with metal detectors and xray machines.
 

Heads up for those who have applied for their license trying to check the status of their license today, the website is going up and down and the traffic calling in and trying to reach folks through the live chat are incredibly long. My sister sat on hold on the live chat for one hour before closing it.

Things have been quiet on this thread for a while, but I think this is where my question belongs, so here goes:

I live in Ohio and have an Ohio CCW permit.

I recently bought a second home in Florida which will be a vacation home at least for now.  Ohio will continue to be my primary residence and I will continue to work from Ohio.  I'm guessing that I'll spend a couple of months tops in Florida until I retire in a few years.  For what it's worth other family members (wife & grown kids) will be in and out of the Florida home.

1 - What are my options right now in terms of purchasing a handgun in Florida?  Does owning a home in Florida affect what would otherwise be a prohibited transaction?

2 - CCW permits - Florida has reciprocity with Ohio.  Is there any reason to get a Florida permit?

3 - I don't see any benefit to becoming a Florida resident (except possibly homestead) and don't even think I could qualify.

4 - Anything else to consider?

Thanks, I skimmed this thread and didn't see any of this covered.

Here's one I can't figure out, and the FAQs don't clearly address:

Fla. Stat. s. 790.115(2)(a)(3) prohibits firearms in vehicles on school campuses if the district adopts a policy that prohibits them.

Fla. Stat. s. 790.06(12)(b) says a "licensed [concealed carry permit holder] . . . shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes."

So, let's assume we're dealing with a middle school that has a policy against guns in cars parked on the campus. Does s. 790.06(12)(b) override the policy and allow a CCW holder to keep a gun in a vehicle parked on campus?

For those wanting to get your CCW and are wondering how long it takes.

As of 3/18/17 it took me 1 week.  I filed for my license on Thursday the 9th, and it was issued on Friday the 17th.  So 8 days.

Now I can't say you will, for sure, get yours back as fast as mine.  I used the LEO letter that qualifies me per my training.  I called and had the letter printed up.  Took it and my DL down to the court house, we have expedited electronic delivery.

So, good news for me!  License should be here in the mail in a few days!!

My local library (Seminole in Pinellas Cty) is on a college campus and shared with that college (St. Pete College).  I am not a student or employee of the college.  Am I correct that concealed-carrying my firearm is forbidden there by operation of state law?

I was told by a Miami Dade County Officer today that carrying in a private establishment that has a no guns sign is an arrestable offense.

I said, I thought it's just  trespassing if they ask you to leave and you don't?  I didn't realize the signs meant anything.

"it's written into the statute, you will be arrested".

I'm sure he meant well, he was a very polite and nice guy, we talked guns and he knew his glocks and I wish every officer had his build, demeanor and professionalism, but I was a little depressed that he was mistaken on this.

Let's just say hypothetically this was in one's workplace, did something change?

Good informative post OP.  The family and myself are flying to Miami and driving to Key west next week, and I was going to post a new thread asking all the questions you already have answered.  Thanks.

Hoping for a sighting of Florida man in his natural environment!

Anyone familiar with the Florida (permit holder) carry laws regarding Polymer80 completed, Glock aftermarket builds?

If you are permitted to carry, you can carry an 80% weapon legally, however most of the officers at the last agency I worked at would probably arrest you before finding out it's totally legal and a bad arrest causing you a lot of time and money.  Only one other officer I worked with out of 200ish knew the laws with home built firearms.

Ok. I'm confused.

I've looked over this thread, and unfortunately haven't read every post. I have a Resident Utah Permit. I'm traveling to FL in the near future. With my permit, am I subject to, and privileged under all the same laws as outlined in the OP?

Anybody know current processing times?

I just renewed my CWL in Lake Mary, Seminole County.  I was in and out in about 20 minutes with the license in hand.  They take your pic there and everything is done electonically.

Never mind

I did a ton of updates to this page today.  Please let me know if I missed anything.

It can be difficult and must be done eloquently, but this is where I have taken the opportunity to educate in the past.

Gentlemen,

Who has the best CCW classes (instruction and price) in the Orlando area?

My daughter's boyfriend is looking.

Thanks!

Advice below taken. Thx.

You'll probably get a better response by just creating a new topic.

I've been wondering for a while how concealed or cased transport of a rifle or shotgun on foot would work in light of the definition for CCW under 790.06:

"For the purposes of this section, concealed weapons or concealed firearms are defined as a handgun, electronic weapon or device, tear gas gun, knife, or billie"

Hypothetically would my CWP allow me to keep something like a collapsed or  disassembled AR in a backpack?

Would the outcome be different in a situation where I was forced to transport a securely encased rifle or shotgun on foot from, say, my work to my home? I'm wondering if you'd have to consider a pedestrian to be their own private conveyance in order to avoid equal protection issues if it ever went to court.

How does one upgrade their non resident permit to a resident/normal permit?

People applying for your permits...can you go to the Agg/farm office and fill the application out plus do your prints? I heard that the tax assessor's office in Martin County will accept the application.

I just moved here from Connecticut. I've had my CWL in CT for 45 years. I am a competitive shooter and NRA instructor.  Can I just use a copy of my instructor credentials or a copy of match results from a match I shot earlier in this year?  I was told by a gun store I needed to take a class in Florida, I think they were just trying to get me to pay for the class.

Welcome! What part of Florida?

Your proof of NRA safety certification course should be sufficient. I provided the one from almost 10 years ago when I took the class for a CT Pistol Permit.

I don't have a certificate as I got my CT permit in 1978.  I hope they take my instructor credentials.  I am south of Tampa.