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MARSH1
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Posted: 11/27/2008 8:55:34 PM
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Three versions available

Fixed base $79.99 (The perfect AK optic)

Removable base $89.99 (AR riser add $29)

Removable base with extended front for threaded Killflash $109.99 (AR riser add $29)


Now with LED on the side for better cowitness







Fixed base Micro on Ultimak rail


Killflash version in riser
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Posted: 11/28/2008 10:21:58 AM
Same manufacturer as the M3?
Uses 2032 battery?
What is the attached mount? Weaver?
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Posted: 11/28/2008 10:32:08 AM
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Originally Posted By dharmaeye:
Same manufacturer as the M3?
Uses 2032 battery?
What is the attached mount? Weaver?



Yes same mfg as my M3 clone. Same high quality and one year warranty.
Yes 2032 battery, included.
Fiits a Pic or Weaver rail.

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Posted: 12/1/2008 11:02:37 PM
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Posted: 12/2/2008 7:19:16 PM
What else are you planning on importing?
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Posted: 12/2/2008 9:42:42 PM
What is the battery life on this sight?
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Posted: 12/2/2008 10:37:34 PM
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Originally Posted By boater1217:
What else are you planning on importing?


I will have my M4 clone posted soon. It is in house but they shipped a different version from the one I tested so I need to check it out before offering it for sale.

I better wait until after the Shot show next month before I commit to anything else. I have several meetings there with other suppliers and will see some new products from the current one. I am also trying to close a deal to bring in some high end military optics from Israel.

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Posted: 12/2/2008 10:42:59 PM
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Originally Posted By acr1:
What is the battery life on this sight?


I turned on one of the production units when they arrived on November 19th and it is still on but getting dimmer. To be on the safe side figure 250+or- hours depending on setting . They use a standard easy to find 2032 batteries.


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Posted: 12/3/2008 9:25:08 PM
Marsh,
Can you post some pics up similar to what I posted in this thread, the last post, on the Micro Clone I came across:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=75&t=754612&page=3

Just to verify... you said the mount can not be removed...Can the mount be removed but the Aimpoint Micro mounts will not fit because there is no provision for the indexing bump that real Aimpoints use or can the mounts just flat out not be removed?

Your's seems to place the power switch on the top of the sight vs on the side like the Aimpoint. Sig was importing some micro like sights with the power adjustment knob on the top. The units you are offering look like the Sig units. For what it's worth, searching on the net indicated that the first few batches Sig sent out had dead on arrival issues so I'd power them up before you ship to customers. The ones that powered up seemed to be fine. ALSO, from postings on the net and Google, it looks like Sig wanted close $300.00 each so your price is a lot better!!!

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Posted: 12/3/2008 10:09:59 PM
Originally Posted By Wangstang:
Marsh,
Can you post some pics up similar to what I posted in this thread, the last post, on the Micro Clone I came across:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=75&t=754612&page=3

Just to verify... you said the mount can not be removed...Can the mount be removed but the Aimpoint Micro mounts will not fit because there is no provision for the indexing bump that real Aimpoints use or can the mounts just flat out not be removed?

Your's seems to place the power switch on the top of the sight vs on the side like the Aimpoint. Sig was importing some micro like sights with the power adjustment knob on the top. The units you are offering look like the Sig units. For what it's worth, searching on the net indicated that the first few batches Sig sent out had dead on arrival issues so I'd power them up before you ship to customers. The ones that powered up seemed to be fine. ALSO, from postings on the net and Google, it looks like Sig wanted close $300.00 each so your price is a lot better!!!

Wes


Wes

The mount does not come off at all. This is not meant to be a exact clone but a high quality small red dot. IMHO this is a way better option that a Burris Fastfire or similar small red dot where you are mounting it right to the rail. I open and test every unit before it ships so you will not get a DOA unit. For what it is worth no legitimate manufacturer will make a Aimpoint T-1 clone because it is new enough that the design patent is still in effect. Not the case with the M3 design. These are a great value at $89

I will work on some picture but it will be a few days as I am swamped with orders.

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Posted: 12/4/2008 11:19:04 PM
If you can take a cc payment, (not paypal though) I'll take one right now.
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Posted: 12/5/2008 12:06:39 AM
Originally Posted By HEADHUNTER1976:
If you can take a cc payment, (not paypal though) I'll take one right now.


Sorry but no way to take CCs at this time.

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Posted: 12/6/2008 12:16:31 AM
Hmmm I wonder how well this would work on my AK with a rail.
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Posted: 12/6/2008 12:22:49 AM
I just tried one of these on my Buckmark today and I have to say I am really pleased with this little sight. Holds a zero well and looks nice.
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Posted: 12/6/2008 12:58:43 PM
Does it sit as low as the aimpoint micro? I have an Arsenal AK with ultimak rail and want a red dot to cowitness without paying $500 for the aimpoint micro.
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Posted: 12/6/2008 1:28:35 PM
Originally Posted By brokenlink:
Does it sit as low as the aimpoint micro? I have an Arsenal AK with ultimak rail and want a red dot to cowitness without paying $500 for the aimpoint micro.


Yes it sits that low. People have used my M3 clone in a low mount on that setup and this one actually sits a little lower. I will post the height of the dot off the rail when I get to the shop tonight.
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Posted: 12/6/2008 1:31:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Nutro:
Hmmm I wonder how well this would work on my AK with a rail.


These are a great choice for a AK or AR carry handle mount. There is a gun show in Houston today so I will just have to buy a test AK (if any are available) for the company.


UPDATE; The dot sits right at 5/8" above the rail and the only AKs for sale were $900!!!
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Posted: 12/9/2008 9:23:55 AM
Do you sell the QD riser rail?
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Posted: 12/9/2008 9:45:24 AM
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Do you sell the QD riser rail?


No. That is a ADM product.
I bought it here:

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Posted: 12/9/2008 7:04:48 PM
$87! Ouch! Thanks for the info anyways!
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Posted: 12/9/2008 9:44:25 PM
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Originally Posted By CiDirkona:
$87! Ouch! Thanks for the info anyways!


I know a $87 rail with a $89 red dot. But it is a great mount and a good match with my Mico.
The YHM riser works great for under $20 but is not quick disconect.
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Posted: 12/10/2008 7:43:42 PM
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can you please tell me what scope rings you are using in this picture:




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Posted: 12/10/2008 9:22:05 PM
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Originally Posted By speederx7:
can you please tell me what scope rings you are using in this picture:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/Guns/MicroMounted.jpg



The rings are TPS Products TSR low rings on a LaRue riser. The Micro dot is on a scope accessory rail from Tactical Night Vision.




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Do you think this red dot will survive on a 12ga for very long?
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Posted: 12/11/2008 3:41:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Mudfoot:
Do you think this red dot will survive on a 12ga for very long?


Mudfoot

I think it would be fine. I have tested it on a .308 for over 200 rounds. On a .357 revolver about the same number or rounds. It survived on my .50 Beowulf which is my last test but I did not put a lot of rounds downrange with it. My normal policy is defective exchange only but f you want to do the shotgun test if it fails I will refund purchase price and your return shipping.

IM or email me if you want to try it out.

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IM sent. Thanks Marshall.
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i will try one of these IM me and let me know you have one in stock and i will pay pal ya the monies (pay pal sent )
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Posted: 12/13/2008 8:57:43 AM
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Originally Posted By speederx7:
can you please tell me what scope rings you are using in this picture:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/marsh2001/Guns/MicroMounted.jpg



The rings are TPS Products TSR low rings on a LaRue riser. The Micro dot is on a scope accessory rail from Tactical Night Vision.






Daniel Defense makes a similar 1 o'clock offset rail as well.


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Posted: 12/15/2008 4:16:25 PM
wow!

that is an amazing product guarantee. im gonna have to do business Marshall.
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Posted: 12/15/2008 7:10:58 PM
Just tossed one of these on and AR and put 350 rounds down range. Great product and awesome price!

Thanks marsh!
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Posted: 12/17/2008 12:00:27 AM
order placed/payment sent.
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Looks like a great, little sight and I'm interested.

May have overlooked it, but is the sight waterproof or water resistant?

Thanks.

BTW, do you ever come to the gun shows in Dallas? If so, will you be at any of the shows in early '09?
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Posted: 12/17/2008 2:39:18 PM
Originally Posted By dglockster:
Looks like a great, little sight and I'm interested.

May have overlooked it, but is the sight waterproof or water resistant?

Thanks.

BTW, do you ever come to the gun shows in Dallas? If so, will you be at any of the shows in early '09?


They are waterproof.

No plans to go to the Dallas shows at this time.

Thanks!

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Order placed, payment sent ... thanks
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Posted: 12/20/2008 12:56:42 PM
which riser do you recommend? there is one that is .75in long and 1.30in, both raise sight by .5in and made by yhm.

http://www.yhm.net/store/rails.html

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which riser do you recommend? there is one that is .75in long and 1.30in, both raise sight by .5in and made by yhm.

http://www.yhm.net/store/rails.html



The one in the photo is the 1.3". I don't think the sight would be very stable on the shorter one.
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Posted: 12/20/2008 10:49:52 PM
I have a brand new Mossberg 930 SPX tactical shotgun and I'm looking for a mini-dot to put on the accessory rail. Since the iron sights are a bit different from AR sights, I wonder if it would work on my shotgun without a riser? Hmmmm?!
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Posted: 12/21/2008 9:09:27 AM
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I have a brand new Mossberg 930 SPX tactical shotgun and I'm looking for a mini-dot to put on the accessory rail. Since the iron sights are a bit different from AR sights, I wonder if it would work on my shotgun without a riser? Hmmmm?!


Well my wife says I can't buy every gun for testing purposes so you are going to have to measure. The Micro dot will put the dot approxamatley 5/8" above the top of the rail.

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Marshall,

Thanks for the feedback about the dot being 5/8" above the rail. I should be able to measure and see how this would work out on my new Mossberg. My biggest concern is whether or not the back sight will look through the lower portion of the glass or if it will be staring into the base of the micro dot.

I didn't figure that you'd go out and purchase a 930 SPX for yourself. However, if "product testing" will get another gun in your collection, you're building a business after all!

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Paypal sent for one MICRO DOT.

The M4 scope that I ordered from you 3 days ago arrived today. Thanks for the quick shipping. Haven't been to the range yet with it but will run some through it tomorrow. Seems to be a great scope...built like a tank and very prcise reticles. This doesn't seem to be the normal chinese junk aimpoints that have been around for the last few years.

EDIT: had a chance to run this at the range and am impressed. The reticles are crystal clear and as bright as any aimpoint or eotech.

Thanks and please let me know when the Micro goes out

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Got my Micro dot from MARSH1 absolutely a great little unit ....also it seems to be the same unit as the SIG micro dots running $190 ... this is a lower more affordable price and Superb Quality unit ....
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Marshall,

Thanks for the feedback about the dot being 5/8" above the rail. I should be able to measure and see how this would work out on my new Mossberg. My biggest concern is whether or not the back sight will look through the lower portion of the glass or if it will be staring into the base of the micro dot.

I didn't figure that you'd go out and purchase a 930 SPX for yourself. However, if "product testing" will get another gun in your collection, you're building a business after all!



I am thinking the same thing. Let me know how it goes.
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When will your website be up? By that time i'll be sure to order a few from the tax return
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Originally Posted By kennyt_7:
When will your website be up? By that time i'll be sure to order a few from the tax return


It will be up in January.

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Posted: 12/27/2008 8:02:28 PM
Just wanna put up some pictures of the Micro Dot in use. After this weekend, the scope has had about 1k down the range and the rifle was banged around abit in the back of the truck. No issues what so ever with dot brightness or holding zero. Cant wait to beat up on one of your next products Marsh1, thanks for the excellent product/service!


Microdot mounted with the YHM spacer on a Vltor CASV rail.


Shot from the other side.


Co-witness


View above iron sights.


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Posted: 12/28/2008 10:39:46 AM
So if I want to use one of these and a fixed front sight, what riser will allow co witness? Is there even a way?
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Posted: 12/28/2008 11:02:49 AM
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So if I want to use one of these and a fixed front sight, what riser will allow co witness? Is there even a way?


You would want a 1" riser. They are out there but I have not tried one yet. I tried two of the YHM .5" and it gave a nice lower cowittess but looks strange.

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