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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:11:03 AM
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link to thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_90/1025824_Garage_Sale_.html


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From: NSTK
To: 04silver
Subject: wiley x gloves
Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 11:06:48 PM

do you have any pictures? if not, whats the condition? highly interested in these
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From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Subject: wiley x gloves
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 3:06:48 AM On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:01 AM

They are brand new, never worn.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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From: NSTK
To: 04silver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

I'll take them. What's the total and your PayPal?

Sent from my iPhone
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From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

$15 shipped via usps with delivery confirmation.
Paypal is xxxx@yahoo.com
If you pay tonight I can ship it in the morning.

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i went to bed after waiting about 10 minutes after the last email i sent saying "i'll take it". then i woke up and went to school, saw that i had gotten the email with his paypal, but since i was at school in class i wasnt able to send the payment. then i received the next email:


From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

Gloves have been sold, thank you for your interest.
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"I suggest you give the tampons back to your sister and spend some of your cigarette money on trauma dressings."

Couldn't you use night vision and check them? Or does light discipline prevent that?
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:25:41 AM
Send him a link to this thread.
Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works."

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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:31:20 AM
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"I suggest you give the tampons back to your sister and spend some of your cigarette money on trauma dressings."

Couldn't you use night vision and check them? Or does light discipline prevent that?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:35:26 AM
As stated, I asked the potential buyer to pay that night and it wasn't.
On the page, I posted that it was first paid, first served. Another person was the first to pay me during the night.

As soon as I noticed that another person paid for the gloves, I alerted the complaintee that they had been sold and to not send money.

I apologized for the fact that the gloves had been sold during the night.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:39:44 AM
You cannot move on to another buyer, when you have agreed to a deal with another member.

You did not even give him time to pay.

Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works."

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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:41:10 AM
If he stated he'll take them and asked for your payment info and you replied with the payment info the deal between the two of you was set. Unless there's other comms staying that you needed payment specifically from him that evening it looks like you welched.
Hey, wait a minute, there's no birthday party for me here!
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:42:19 AM
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
link to thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_90/1025824_Garage_Sale_.html


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From: NSTK
To: 04silver
Subject: wiley x gloves
Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 11:06:48 PM

do you have any pictures? if not, whats the condition? highly interested in these
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From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Subject: wiley x gloves
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 3:06:48 AM On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:01 AM

They are brand new, never worn.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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From: NSTK
To: 04silver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

I'll take them. What's the total and your PayPal?

Sent from my iPhone
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From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

$15 shipped via usps with delivery confirmation.
Paypal is xxxx@yahoo.com
If you pay tonight I can ship it in the morning.


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i went to bed after waiting about 10 minutes after the last email i sent saying "i'll take it". then i woke up and went to school, saw that i had gotten the email with his paypal, but since i was at school in class i wasnt able to send the payment. then i received the next email:


From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

Gloves have been sold, thank you for your interest.
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Actually, you said "IF you pay tonight I can ship it in the morning".

Either way, I don't see this one ending well for you. A deal was definitely struck here.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:49:08 AM
Originally Posted By ARCharles15:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
link to thread: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_90/1025824_Garage_Sale_.html


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From: NSTK
To: 04silver
Subject: wiley x gloves
Sent: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 11:06:48 PM

do you have any pictures? if not, whats the condition? highly interested in these
––-
From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Subject: wiley x gloves
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 3:06:48 AM On Aug 7, 2012, at 12:01 AM

They are brand new, never worn.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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From: NSTK
To: 04silver
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

I'll take them. What's the total and your PayPal?

Sent from my iPhone
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From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

$15 shipped via usps with delivery confirmation.
Paypal is xxxx@yahoo.com
If you pay tonight I can ship it in the morning.


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i went to bed after waiting about 10 minutes after the last email i sent saying "i'll take it". then i woke up and went to school, saw that i had gotten the email with his paypal, but since i was at school in class i wasnt able to send the payment. then i received the next email:


From: 04silver
To: NSTK
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: wiley x gloves

Gloves have been sold, thank you for your interest.
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Actually, you said "IF you pay tonight I can ship it in the morning".

Either way, I don't see this one ending well for you. A deal was definitely struck here.


NSTK edited his initial post. I thought it said something different on the payment portion originally but I could friendster be wrong. That's why I left my comment a bit open ended with a chance for him to post his side.

Hey, wait a minute, there's no birthday party for me here!
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:58:28 AM
When I edited I didn't edit any of the quoted emails (I can post sceencaps if needed), I edited in my explainatiin of why I didn't pay that night.
"I suggest you give the tampons back to your sister and spend some of your cigarette money on trauma dressings."

Couldn't you use night vision and check them? Or does light discipline prevent that?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:03:51 PM
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
When I edited I didn't edit any of the quoted emails (I can post sceencaps if needed), I edited in my explainatiin of why I didn't pay that night.


Not casting stones. Just clarifying my original statement. My $0.02 is that he welched.
Hey, wait a minute, there's no birthday party for me here!
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:05:37 PM
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
When I edited I didn't edit any of the quoted emails (I can post sceencaps if needed), I edited in my explainatiin of why I didn't pay that night.


You did nothing wrong.

He welched on you, plain and simple.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:34:05 PM
My bad.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:36:56 PM
Originally Posted By 04silver:
My bad.


That is all you have to say?

Oh well, guess we won't see you around here anymore.

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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:41:08 PM
Originally Posted By 04silver:
My bad.


Unless you can make this right, you will be locked.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:41:56 PM
What more do you want? I apologized allready to the seller, the only one who has any intrerest in this case.
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That wasn't directed at you Dog, at CAR.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:44:00 PM
Originally Posted By 04silver:
What more do you want? I apologized allready to the seller, the only one who has any intrerest in this case.


No we all have an interest in the case.

To make sure that the EE has honest sellers that can be taken at their word.

Which you broke.
Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works."

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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:46:57 PM
Originally Posted By 04silver:
What more do you want? I apologized allready to the seller, the only one who has any intrerest in this case.


I want you to abide by the rules of the EE, just like the rest of us. You have read the rules, right?

EE Rules

Especialy this part:

Welching
Sellers –– Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item and are satisfied with the selling price. If you back out of a deal AFTER you've agreed to sell it to a particular buyer, your account MAY BE LOCKED!
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:58:24 PM
I've apologized to the seller. And I'll apologize to the forum.

Theres nothing more I can do after that. I was in the wrong. My apologies.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:13:10 PM
The seller admits his guilt, so I would give him a -1 and let him stay.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:41:19 PM
I don't know if this is relevant, but I purchased something from this user last night and he shipped it this morning with delivery confirmation and insurance. I noticed the thread was locked this morning and came here to see what's up.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:45:39 PM
Originally Posted By mtnbkr5234:
I don't know if this is relevant, but I purchased something from this user last night and he shipped it this morning with delivery confirmation and insurance. I noticed the thread was locked this morning and came here to see what's up.


It wasn't a pair of Wiley X gloves was it?

Banger, I normally agree with most everything you post, but I must disagree this time. If all welchers were let off with just a -1 simply for admitting fault, they'd all do it. As has been said many times, all we have to go on here is each other's word. If those people can't keep their word, regardless of admitting fault or not, they shouldn't be allowed to sell here IMO. Just my $.02
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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:49:18 PM
[Last Edit: 8/8/2012 2:50:00 PM by Dog1]
Originally Posted By Banger:
The seller admits his guilt, so I would give him a -1 and let him stay.


My problem with this, that here again, we have another seller that is in a hurry for payment.

This is not an isolated case, it's happing more and more.


I'm going to see what NapeSticksToKids thinks about it and then I will render my judgement.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 4:00:03 PM
04silver-

After talking to NapeSticksToKids, here is what I'm going to do.

1. You will get a -1 in your feedback for a welch. That is something that you will have to deal with in the EE.

2. You will receive a 72hr timeout from the site.

Any other -1 issues in the future will result in an account lock.
Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
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Posted: 8/14/2012 9:46:49 AM
Mods can you please unlock the original thread so I can give and receive feedback from my transaction with 04silver? Thanks
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Posted: 8/14/2012 11:45:10 AM
Originally Posted By mtnbkr5234:
Mods can you please unlock the original thread so I can give and receive feedback from my transaction with 04silver? Thanks


Next time IM the mod that locked the thread.

It's unlocked now
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I have been seeing it more and more lately, sellers want the money in a hurry and guys get left on the hook. Sad...
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Posted: 8/15/2012 9:33:27 AM
Originally Posted By dnmccoy:
I have been seeing it more and more lately, sellers want the money in a hurry and guys get left on the hook. Sad...


Same here...they get in a hurry and then end up in a feedback thread.
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Originally Posted By dnmccoy:
I have been seeing it more and more lately, sellers want the money in a hurry and guys get left on the hook. Sad...

Or handle all of their business via their "smart" phones that, for some reason, cannot handle the IM system and conveniently miss important communication.

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Posted: 8/15/2012 7:04:32 PM
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