Opinions on current PTR91s?

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Posted: 5/1/2017 7:05:01 PM EDT

So what do you all think gtg or garbage?

Posted: 5/3/2017 11:18:34 AM EDT

[#1]

I see them on the local range here. I have not heard any complaints from their owners.

Posted: 5/3/2017 1:36:38 PM EDT

[#2]

Good to go for sure, next best thing next to an hk91. Might actually be better if the rail and paddle mag release are important to you.

Posted: 5/3/2017 10:43:56 PM EDT

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I fired my friends PTR-91 and found it to be a comfortable rifle to shoot and IMO more user friendly than the HK-91's. Reliable,well made and accurate shooters. I am not as lucky as I own the new Century C308. When I compare it to the PTR I see many similarities though. New barrel, new furniture, upper receiver but the lower receiver housing is a phenolic and I believe the bolt, bolt carrier trigger, safety and sear are surplus parts. I added the extended charging handle (IMO a necessary upgrade) but nothing else) . While the PTR-91 uses a few more new parts, believe it or not, the accuracy of the two rifles is exactly the same. Both shoot 1 1/2"- to 2" groups @100 yds. Both feed 100% reliable but the Century recoil is slightly lighter. I suspect that PTR makes this version of the rifle for Century as they handle all warranty work for it. If I had to do it all over again I would go with the PTR for $150 more, but so far so good with the Century.

Posted: 5/4/2017 6:44:26 AM EDT

[#4]

We have been offering the PTR series to our clients for the last 12 -14 years and been very happy with them. I would avoid the current C308 series . When they first came out they ran like a champ but as they started to get to the bottom of the barrel on the surplus parts we ran into repeated Quality issues. We decided to pull the C308 rifles from our inventory and no longer offer them for sale. We had no desire to send out rifles that our clients may have problems with .The PTR does cost more but they are all new parts and a solid warranty .

Posted: 5/4/2017 7:15:33 AM EDT

[#5]

I almost bought one, but thought to my self.. it's kinda heavy for no optic, and ammo is more expensive, and I don't need it for anything... so I passed. From what i have seen of many materials, if 5.56 won't pass through at the ranges I shoot most (inside 300m), 7.62x51 isn't going to do much better.

Posted: 5/16/2017 10:22:46 PM EDT

[#6]

I've had mine (rail, paddle mag release) for about a year. It shoots better than I do, and eats cheap Russian steel case like candy.

I have added a wide handguard and folding bipod. The skinny G3 handguard tends to get a little warm. Magazines are still pretty cheap.

I got mine through Atlantic and they were a pleasure to deal with.

Posted: 5/17/2017 10:11:31 AM EDT

[#7]

My wife's is a recent production with the rail and wide handguard. After a fiasco with trying to have her husband (me) pay for it with my credit card

it was problem free on delivery from Atlantic.

PTR is still using surplus parts. The backplate assembly on her's has three digits that are crossed out. The interesting thing is there is the Norwegian crown stamp that is also found of the magazines.

That said, stay the hell away from old production PTRs. Don't buy used unless you've done your research. I got screwed on a JLD PTR-91 (previous company) that wouldn't cycle anything but premium hunting loads.

BUY IT! Buy magazines now too. You're late!

Posted: 5/17/2017 11:31:29 PM EDT

[#8]

Sbr their pistol like i did

Posted: 5/18/2017 4:37:35 PM EDT

[#9]

I have really enjoyed my A3R: http://modernrifleman.net/2016/04/20/ptr-91-a3r-review/

After tuning it a bit to run reliably with suppressors (added a #17 locking piece), it has been a fantastic rifle.

I also swapped out the butt plate and buffer (for an enhanced one) to make it even more comfortable to shoot.

Posted: 5/18/2017 7:40:20 PM EDT

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I have really enjoyed my A3R: http://modernrifleman.net/2016/04/20/ptr-91-a3r-review/

After tuning it a bit to run reliably with suppressors (added a #17 locking piece), it has been a fantastic rifle.

I also swapped out the butt plate and buffer (for an enhanced one) to make it even more comfortable to shoot.

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How's the overall length suppressed?

Posted: 5/18/2017 8:05:09 PM EDT

[#11]

I've had my GI for a little over a year. Bought directly from PTR and it was painless. The rifle has not had an issues, and the trigger is surprisingly good.

Posted: 5/18/2017 9:53:02 PM EDT

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How's the overall length suppressed?

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Is long as fuck an option? It's pretty dang long, but that's going to be an issue with any rifle that has an 18" barrel like the '91.

Posted: 5/22/2017 8:56:34 AM EDT

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My wife's is a recent production with the rail and wide handguard. After a fiasco with trying to have her husband (me) pay for it with my credit card

it was problem free on delivery from Atlantic.

PTR is still using surplus parts. The backplate assembly on her's has three digits that are crossed out. The interesting thing is there is the Norwegian crown stamp that is also found of the magazines.

That said, stay the hell away from old production PTRs. Don't buy used unless you've done your research. I got screwed on a JLD PTR-91 (previous company) that wouldn't cycle anything but premium hunting loads.

BUY IT! Buy magazines now too. You're late!

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Not to hi-jack this thread but how does your wife like her rifle? Recoil and size wise?

Posted: 5/30/2017 1:42:23 PM EDT

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Not to hi-jack this thread but how does your wife like her rifle? Recoil and size wise?

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She's fine with it on the bipod; it came with the wide forearm for it. It's a 10 pound rifle, so, she's probably going to end up getting the barrel chopped.

I don't understand people's fear over the HK recoil. It's not that bad.

Posted: 5/30/2017 1:55:05 PM EDT

[#15]

I had several over the years, and had some issues:

1) Buttstock cracked (almost catastrophically) when pogo'g a stuck case.
2) The bolt head gap closed to ZERO on two of the rifles within 500rds. I didn't trust the guns after this.

ETA: I bought all of mine from CDNN. I traded them to a local shop (Class 3) that wanted some of the parts for a project. I think I lost about $250 on each rifle.

Posted: 5/30/2017 1:58:30 PM EDT

[#16]

Forgot to add...the head had +4 rollers.

Some will tell you a 0 gap will yield less recoil, but the trade off is reliable cycling. Mine would not.

ETA: I think the target is about .016". All you need to test your gap is a set of feeler gauges.

Posted: 5/30/2017 8:16:32 PM EDT

[#17]

I think they are better than they used to be. I've owned a few. Personally, I'd say for the same money (or less) I'd look for a nice used Springfield Armory SAR 8 (not the one with the bulky aluminum receiver but the earlier guns all built in EBO Greece on genuine HK licensed equipment. These guns in my personal opinion far surpass any PTR ever made, come with a lifetime warranty, are the next best thing to a German HK91 and just as good. Within the last year I've bought 2 SAR 8's (One was a SAR 3/8 overstamp) and did not pay over $900 for either gun. Earl

Posted: 5/31/2017 6:56:07 AM EDT

[#18]

PTR 32 Pistols in 762 x 39 with a brace make a handy truck gun

Posted: 5/31/2017 11:26:27 PM EDT

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PTR 32 Pistols in 762 x 39 with a brace make a handy truck gun

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/ptr32p%20(2%20of%202)6.jpg

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What's wrong with 7.62x51 sbr???

When they go for $999 I'll take one.

Posted: 6/1/2017 11:20:43 AM EDT

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PTR 32 Pistols in 762 x 39 with a brace make a handy truck gun

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/ptr32p%20(2%20of%202)6.jpg

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That stack of AK magazines in the basement is making PTR 32 more attractive every day.

Any issues with magazines fitting in the 7.62 x 39 PTRs?

Posted: 6/3/2017 5:29:39 PM EDT

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I think they are better than they used to be. I've owned a few. Personally, I'd say for the same money (or less) I'd look for a nice used Springfield Armory SAR 8 (not the one with the bulky aluminum receiver but the earlier guns all built in EBO Greece on genuine HK licensed equipment. These guns in my personal opinion far surpass any PTR ever made, come with a lifetime warranty, are the next best thing to a German HK91 and just as good. Within the last year I've bought 2 SAR 8's (One was a SAR 3/8 overstamp) and did not pay over $900 for either gun. Earl

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I agree. I've had a couple of SAR 3 (overstamped) 8s and they were just as nice as teh two "real" HK91s I had. The EBO Greece guns are light years ahead of PTRs.

In the end I just couldn't get use to the cocking lever location or recoil of the G3 design. I'm very happy with a FAL and/or SCAR-17.

Posted: 6/3/2017 7:08:46 PM EDT

[#22]

That PTR 32 however does interest the hell out of me. One of these days. There is no other 32 variant out there that I know of. Earl

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