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Posted: 2/2/2017 8:55:02 PM EDT
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LAV posted about this on his FB page today, it's dubbed the HK Masada as it looks very similar to the original Masada design.
I think it looks freaking sweet 
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Posted: 2/2/2017 9:15:56 PM EDT
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LAV posted about this on his FB page today, it's dubbed the HK Masada as it looks very similar to the original Masada design. I think it looks freaking sweet http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/jsotelo5150/16473289_10158171004225416_5520257286372234068_n_zpsloukmmyh.jpg Must kill vickers to see an EO on it lol Curious if it will be a success or even sold in the USA. |
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Posted: 2/2/2017 10:05:57 PM EDT
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This was posted on HKpro
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Posted: 2/2/2017 10:51:49 PM EDT
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I had a 433, the long lever version.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 11:13:18 AM EDT
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Looks a LOT like the Beretta ARX100 to me.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 11:22:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2017 2:25:03 PM EDT
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Do not want.
 Looks like that abortion Beretta makes.
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Posted: 2/4/2017 1:27:28 AM EDT
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I dig it, if they price it comparable to the SCAR ill pick one up.
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Posted: 2/4/2017 10:34:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2017 2:39:33 PM EDT
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Do not want. Looks like that abortion Beretta makes.I'm correcting myself on the 433. After seeing other pics of it I'll say it's sexy as fuck. Do want. What are the chances we will get the opportunity to own one though? 
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Posted: 2/4/2017 3:22:59 PM EDT
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I'm correcting myself on the 433. After seeing other pics of it I'll say it's sexy as fuck. Do want. What are the chances we will get the opportunity to own one though? Hard to say with HK, they got a rep for not caring about US civilian sales for a reason. |
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Posted: 2/4/2017 10:49:18 PM EDT
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I like it. Now once it gets civilianized, maybe not.
They have a way of messing guns up to make them exportable, unless they're made here. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 4:46:54 PM EDT
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I like it. Now once it gets civilianized, maybe not. They have a way of messing guns up to make them exportable, unless they're made here. This is probably why we aren't talking more about it. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 8:37:09 PM EDT
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I like it. Now once it gets civilianized, maybe not. They have a way of messing guns up to make them exportable, unless they're made here. This is probably why we aren't talking more about it. Unless they build them at the new factory they are opening in the US and sidestep import/export restrictions entirely. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 2:08:55 PM EDT
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Hk are morons who hide behind german laws. The 433 has a quick change barrel. Bring it in as a 300 blackout or as a new round which is a 223 short chamber with a pin the the mag well like the scar so only 10round mags fit. Once in the us replace barrel and grind down pin for the win.
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Posted: 2/14/2017 4:49:46 PM EDT
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It sounds like some of you guys really think that this new offering is intended to compete in the crowded US market. Frankly, I don't think HK gives a damn about whether this rifle could sell to civilians here in the US. Hell, I don't think they even intend for this offering to entice the US military. After all, it wasn't long ago that Uncle Sam decided that if we're married to the 5.56 cartridge, the M4 represents the best cost/performance ratio for a general issue weapon, in spite of other designs that offer advantages in certain areas. What seems to make the most sense is the prospect that this rifle was designed as a successor to the G36 for the German military. If that's the case and you're HK GmbH, any thing else is just icing on the cake.
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Posted: 2/15/2017 6:12:55 PM EDT
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I dig it, if they price it comparable to the SCAR ill pick one up. SCAR with some HK...DNA. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 1:12:46 AM EDT
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It's a G36 without a wandering zero.
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Posted: 3/8/2017 10:25:07 AM EDT
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Can't read German. Looks like just another 5.56 offering.
 Already have all the 5.56 rifles I want.
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Posted: 3/8/2017 8:01:14 PM EDT
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Can't read German. Looks like just another 5.56 offering. Already have all the 5.56 rifles I want.Come on man
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Posted: 3/9/2017 12:54:25 PM EDT
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German Bundeswehr: "you sold us rifles that cant hold zero, there will be an investigation and a possible lawsuit"
HK "you did not specify what accuracy a rifle shouldhold under rapid fire" GB "oh come on now, the rifle literally cant hit anything after three or four magszines as the tunnion starts coming loose from the plastic" HK "our rifle meets your specifications" GB "fine, we wont sue you in court, but we are replacing the rifles" HK "excellent, here is the HK 433 to replace our G36" GB "brilliant! Here is an open order for millions of euros. Good thing you HK people can make such great rifles!" 
HK literally made a huge profit off their own previous marginal engineering. From a busines standpoint, F'ing brilliant on their part . Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 12:58:49 PM EDT
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For those that dont understand, HK is just shy of a state arsenal for the German Bundeswehr.
Leo/mil sales to germany are their prinary bread and butter, foreign leo/mil sales a close second, and civilian sales to countries like the USA a very distant third. Same thing with many other European gun companies, Steyr for example. It isnt that they 'hate' the US civilian market, it just is a small part of their overall business model and government leo/mil contracts are where all the real profit is at for them. |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 2:54:45 PM EDT
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I have more interest in this rifle than I have the SCAR's, the Masada, the Bren, or pretty much any other plastic rifle, or AR variant.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 5:42:34 PM EDT
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Yeah, I have more 5.56 rifles and SBRs then i'll ever be able to use. I look at them all and think why did I do this?
With that said, I could see buying one of these if it makes the US market
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Posted: 3/10/2017 6:47:04 PM EDT
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Hk hates usa civilians so no we will never see this gun for public sales
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Posted: 3/12/2017 3:55:13 AM EDT
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Hk hates usa civilians so no we will never see this gun for public sales |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 3:10:04 PM EDT
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Hard to say with HK, they got a rep for not caring about US civilian sales for a reason. Except they don't. Their government and export laws are very restrictive when it comes to civilian sales. |
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Posted: 3/15/2017 5:50:13 PM EDT
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So Hk USA doesn't build anything in USA ??
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Posted: 3/15/2017 10:16:37 PM EDT
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The funny thing about this rifle, it'supposed to be a cheaper alternative than the HK416. The 416 is a tweeked AR. The AR was designed 60 years ago by a someone else, and can be found just about everywhere for under $600.
The 433 is an extruded upper rifle similar to the Scar and the XCR which sell for $2,000 dollars plus. I can't figure out the math here. |
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Posted: 3/16/2017 2:28:42 AM EDT
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The funny thing about this rifle, it'supposed to be a cheaper alternative than the HK416. The 416 is a tweeked AR. The AR was designed 60 years ago by a someone else, and can be found just about everywhere for under $600. The 433 is an extruded upper rifle similar to the Scar and the XCR which sell for $2,000 dollars plus. I can't figure out the math here. |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 11:59:30 AM EDT
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The 'pinnacle' keeps getting gas block upgrades so it will work with a short barrel and a suppressor. It's got a wandering pinnacle.
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