HK USC/UMP value - AR15.COM

Posted: 2/2/2015 8:43:36 PM EDT

I recently acquired a USC converted to UMP (still has factory 16" barrel). Has HK FBI lower, vent slots milled in, llooks like everything was done professionally. Anyone know what a realistic value on this gun is if I were to sell it?

Posted: 2/2/2015 9:37:34 PM EDT

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There are a couple conversions out there. Do you know who did it?

Posted: 2/2/2015 11:04:43 PM EDT

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No, I'm not sure who did it. Can't find any for sale to compare prices. Do you have a ballpark idea? Whoever did it did a nice, clean job.

Posted: 2/3/2015 5:06:15 AM EDT

[#3]

Is the block that holds the stock aluminum or polymer. A close up of the area will help.

There are hdps conversion uses the aluminum stock block

The top notck kit uses a polymer block with a trimmed lower.

You can check the hdps website, I believe he sells them already converted

I did my conversion with the top notch kit and the parts were 825 if I remember right. They are not the biggest fan of the guy over at hkpro but the kit has been fine for me.

Posted: 2/3/2015 5:12:57 AM EDT

[#4]

You can price it out at hkparts.net you need the lower and stock blockblock. He sells some of the Hdps parts.

Posted: 2/3/2015 12:53:48 PM EDT

[#5]

It has the aluminum HDPS stock block.

Posted: 2/3/2015 1:12:41 PM EDT

[#6]

There's one on armslist for 2450

Posted: 2/3/2015 3:18:46 PM EDT

[#7]

Pictures tell a lot more than the very basic description you are giving. Post up a pic.

Posted: 2/9/2015 8:11:52 PM EDT

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They have come down a lot in price the past year, no idea why. Search GunBroker for current and closed auctions, that is the best way to asses the current value.

Posted: 2/14/2015 6:29:20 PM EDT

[#9]

Surprised nobody is willing to just drop a dollar amount.

They were going for $3500+ about nine months ago. Now there is one on HKPro.com for that price and it has been sitting for several weeks or a month now.

There are two others listed for $2800 with varying amounts of doodads added on.

I'd say that they are going for $2500 to $2800 for one with a stock block and still about $3500 for one that has a UMP rear fuse job done (of which there are only 2 or 3 people that do that).

Posted: 2/15/2015 11:58:23 AM EDT

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I think the values are dipping because the people who want one, have one. Theyre not common like an AR-15 platform, so the pool of potential buyers, in my opinion, is much smaller. UMP mags are expensive. It's mostly a collectors item.

Posted: 2/15/2015 9:17:57 PM EDT

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Agreed. It seems like the high point in pricing was mid-2013 through mid-2014 and they've been coming down since then. I think the precipitous drop in the cost of parts kits has been partially impactful.

Are the mags expensive? I have like... 100... in all three calibers.

I have not been tracking prices.

Posted: 2/16/2015 2:13:08 AM EDT

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Posted: 2/16/2015 2:42:47 PM EDT

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Agreed. It seems like the high point in pricing was mid-2013 through mid-2014 and they've been coming down since then. I think the precipitous drop in the cost of parts kits has been partially impactful.

Are the mags expensive? I have like... 100... in all three calibers.

I have not been tracking prices.

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I think the values are dipping because the people who want one, have one. Theyre not common like an AR-15 platform, so the pool of potential buyers, in my opinion, is much smaller. UMP mags are expensive. It's mostly a collectors item.

Agreed. It seems like the high point in pricing was mid-2013 through mid-2014 and they've been coming down since then. I think the precipitous drop in the cost of parts kits has been partially impactful.

Are the mags expensive? I have like... 100... in all three calibers.

I have not been tracking prices.

You have to be shitting me... I have 12, in .45... and that's "rich" by my estimates.

UMP 45 Mags - German

ON SALE mind you, for $100/ea

Posted: 2/16/2015 2:54:20 PM EDT

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You have to be shitting me... I have 12, in .45... and that's "rich" by my estimates.

UMP 45 Mags - German

ON SALE mind you, for $100/ea

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I think the values are dipping because the people who want one, have one. Theyre not common like an AR-15 platform, so the pool of potential buyers, in my opinion, is much smaller. UMP mags are expensive. It's mostly a collectors item.

Agreed. It seems like the high point in pricing was mid-2013 through mid-2014 and they've been coming down since then. I think the precipitous drop in the cost of parts kits has been partially impactful.

Are the mags expensive? I have like... 100... in all three calibers.

I have not been tracking prices.

You have to be shitting me... I have 12, in .45... and that's "rich" by my estimates.

UMP 45 Mags - German

ON SALE mind you, for $100/ea

Maybe I'm missing something, what does that do that this magazine doesn't?

Posted: 2/16/2015 3:27:16 PM EDT

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Those are aftermarket US-made. And also a new-to-market item. Many of us didn't have that option several years ago when the UMP conversions were booming.

Posted: 2/19/2015 7:55:46 PM EDT

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Anybody have a range report on the US mags yet? I didn't buy in as I wasn't sure if they would work to not.

I think prices will climb back up eventually.. I doubt the USC/UMP will be the SP89 but I think the niche will stay on.

Posted: 2/24/2015 4:54:52 PM EDT

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You have to be shitting me... I have 12, in .45... and that's "rich" by my estimates.

UMP 45 Mags - German

ON SALE mind you, for $100/ea

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I think the values are dipping because the people who want one, have one. Theyre not common like an AR-15 platform, so the pool of potential buyers, in my opinion, is much smaller. UMP mags are expensive. It's mostly a collectors item.

Agreed. It seems like the high point in pricing was mid-2013 through mid-2014 and they've been coming down since then. I think the precipitous drop in the cost of parts kits has been partially impactful.

Are the mags expensive? I have like... 100... in all three calibers.

I have not been tracking prices.

You have to be shitting me... I have 12, in .45... and that's "rich" by my estimates.

UMP 45 Mags - German

ON SALE mind you, for $100/ea

Huh. Maybe I should sell some. Old pic, I have way more...