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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:35:58 AM EDT
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Build it yourself. It will end up costing about $3000
USC $1400 FBI lower $500 Stock $200 Stock block $280 Cut and thread barrel $100 Tax stamp $200 Hand stop$??? Rails $??? Mill out mag hole and reciever vents. $Time I haven't checked prices on any of this stuff lately, so my numbers could be low. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 12:17:23 PM EDT
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It's hard to even find a HK USC for under $1500 these days. Back a few years ago it was possible to do a USC conversion for under $2000 total if you did the work yourself.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 1:09:35 PM EDT
[#3]
What if I got one of these? What else would I need?
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Posted: 10/19/2014 1:11:42 PM EDT
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Cheapest/easiest?
Well in imagination land, anything is possible... |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 1:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou'd still need a HK USC and a stock block to use the UMP stock on the USC receiver. You also need 922r compliance parts. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 3:05:24 PM EDT
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Cheap and HK can not be used in the same sentence. A guy in our pistol club built the gun the OP seeks, 5k into it with a stamp.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:38:04 PM EDT
[#7]
I've done them
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:47:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIn addition to that parts kit above you will need a USC upper receiver, pay $600 for the weld conversion/refinishing of the upper receiver, and $200 for the NFA tax stamp. It's cheaper to buy a complete USC and then just buy the UMP lower than buying a UMP parts kit. Cut the factory barrel and use a HDPS stock block is the cheapest route. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 11:29:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I've done them http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x115/coctailer/59b7fe0f4367b7142273de53ac9b5e84.jpg That....that is .... Beautiful! 
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Posted: 10/24/2014 9:28:22 AM EDT
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It cost around $2500 when I did mine several years ago
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Posted: 10/24/2014 9:31:31 AM EDT
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Meh
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Posted: 10/24/2014 11:40:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Like this.
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Posted: 10/24/2014 11:41:41 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm just kinda pissed Gemtech quit making the UMP-specific can
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Posted: 10/24/2014 3:04:34 PM EDT
[#14]
Did someone say UMP?
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Posted: 10/25/2014 2:25:50 AM EDT
[#15]
Those are very nice conversions too bad you guys suck and HK hates you
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Posted: 10/31/2014 11:17:45 AM EDT
[#16]
Special Weapons SP10?
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Posted: 10/31/2014 8:24:34 PM EDT
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I should have a spare UMP lower and a mag or two for sale in the next week or so if anyone is looking for one.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I should have a spare UMP lower and a mag or two for sale in the next week or so if anyone is looking for one. Sven Manticore Arms I might be interested in a mag. |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 9:17:33 PM EDT
[#19]
Have looked here hdps.org? He did one for me a couple years ago, I went all out switching it to 9MM and he crafted a custome barrel cover/fake supressor
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Posted: 11/1/2014 1:48:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did someone say UMP? http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n266/gopherboy128/20141024_113319_zpsa50b7292.jpg yes they did  |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 9:49:53 PM EDT
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One of the most enjoyable rifles I own. Have done a few - but only 1 SBR.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 10:01:19 PM EDT
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Special Weapons SP10? Not bad for a 9mm that takes MP5 mags that looks very UMPish Getting rid of the tumor that is the proprietary flashlight housing is the toughest part. Ghilliebear does not offer that service anymore. Not enough room for the paddle release either. |
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Posted: 11/22/2014 9:55:35 PM EDT
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Tough to do the HK thing on the cheap.
My HDPS conversion is one of my favs in my collection. Never a hiccup and makes me look like a better shooter than I am. |
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Posted: 11/23/2014 12:30:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not bad for a 9mm that takes MP5 mags that looks very UMPish Getting rid of the tumor that is the proprietary flashlight housing is the toughest part. Ghilliebear does not offer that service anymore. Not enough room for the paddle release either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Special Weapons SP10? Not bad for a 9mm that takes MP5 mags that looks very UMPish Getting rid of the tumor that is the proprietary flashlight housing is the toughest part. Ghilliebear does not offer that service anymore. Not enough room for the paddle release either. Draw a straight line on the receiver, chop with a bandsaw carefully, clean up with files and sandpaper. Did it a few years ago with one and it turned out just fine. 
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Posted: 11/23/2014 1:51:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
yes they did
<a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/ump_zps546b453e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/ump_zps546b453e.jpg</a> short B&T stock FTW!! Best mod I ever did to my UMP clone. Removes the extra length introduced by the HDPS hinge. Two tone for your approval (shown with my mp5 and wife's k-gun) 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 9:28:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm not gonna lie....that's pretty effing sexy. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:33:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm not gonna lie....that's pretty effing sexy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've done them http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x115/coctailer/59b7fe0f4367b7142273de53ac9b5e84.jpg I'm not gonna lie....that's pretty effing sexy. That particular gun was the one that lead me to get mine. I saw/fondled it in person when getting some other stuff, and knew "I have to have one" then a few emails to Tom Bostic later... and now I got one!
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:49:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
In addition to that parts kit above you will need a USC upper receiver, pay $600 for the weld conversion/refinishing of the upper receiver, and $200 for the NFA tax stamp. It's cheaper to buy a complete USC and then just buy the UMP lower than buying a UMP parts kit. Cut the factory barrel and use a HDPS stock block is the cheapest route. Quote HistoryQuoted:
In addition to that parts kit above you will need a USC upper receiver, pay $600 for the weld conversion/refinishing of the upper receiver, and $200 for the NFA tax stamp. It's cheaper to buy a complete USC and then just buy the UMP lower than buying a UMP parts kit. Cut the factory barrel and use a HDPS stock block is the cheapest route. Not quite sure how this all works. 1. Buy HK USC (What's the going rate? I think they're discontinued now?) 2. Buy HK UMP Lower (Gunbroker?) 3. Buy HK UMP parts kit (where from?) All legal without paperwork so far? 4. File for SBR paperwork 5. Send barrel out for cutting down and threading (what length) 6. Get NFA trust info engraved onto lower? That right? Never done NFA before, but tempted to... |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:23:12 AM EDT
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Not quite sure how this all works.
1. Buy HK USC (What's the going rate? I think they're discontinued now?) Yes, discontinued. I seen them advertised for over $2k now 2. Buy HK UMP Lower (Gunbroker?) Yes, gunbroker or you can get them at places like HKparts 3. Buy HK UMP parts kit (where from?) Don't really need this unless you want a an exact UMP clone, Just get a stock adapter and stock All legal without paperwork so far? Yes, you will need someone to fit the lower, cut magwell and vents or do it yourself. Not hard but you could ruin the gun if you make a mistake. 4. File for SBR paperwork 5. Send barrel out for cutting down and threading (what length) Yes once Form1 approved.,They do make replacement barrels that are 7.87" 6. Get NFA trust info engraved onto lower? That right? Never done NFA before, but tempted to... To tell you the truth I don't think they are worth doing since the price of USC is too high now. You can get a really nice MP5 clone instead. The only reason I am doing one is I live in a crappy state and found a USC for cheap. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 5:57:00 PM EDT
[#30]
Woah. Didn't expect the USC to be over $2000.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not quite sure how this all works. 1. Buy HK USC (What's the going rate? I think they're discontinued now?) 2. Buy HK UMP Lower (Gunbroker?) 3. Buy HK UMP parts kit (where from?) All legal without paperwork so far? 4. File for SBR paperwork 5. Send barrel out for cutting down and threading (what length) 6. Get NFA trust info engraved onto lower? That right? Never done NFA before, but tempted to... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In addition to that parts kit above you will need a USC upper receiver, pay $600 for the weld conversion/refinishing of the upper receiver, and $200 for the NFA tax stamp. It's cheaper to buy a complete USC and then just buy the UMP lower than buying a UMP parts kit. Cut the factory barrel and use a HDPS stock block is the cheapest route. Not quite sure how this all works. 1. Buy HK USC (What's the going rate? I think they're discontinued now?) 2. Buy HK UMP Lower (Gunbroker?) 3. Buy HK UMP parts kit (where from?) All legal without paperwork so far? 4. File for SBR paperwork 5. Send barrel out for cutting down and threading (what length) 6. Get NFA trust info engraved onto lower? That right? Never done NFA before, but tempted to... Everything you need to know http://tradecraft.us/Guns/TechInfo/HowToUMP/HowToUMP.htm |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 2:52:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Woah. Didn't expect the USC to be over $2000. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 5:08:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Woah. Didn't expect the USC to be over $2000. I'm glad that I got mine when I did. I got it for $1,200 and that wasn't a great deal at the time. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 11:30:48 PM EDT
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Ya, as cool as it'd be to have a UMP... I think I'm out with that price for a range toy.
Maybe HK can sort through their financial issues and one day open up their commercial side more like some other companies have. No idea why they'd discontinue the USC. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 4:54:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ya, as cool as it'd be to have a UMP... I think I'm out with that price for a range toy. Maybe HK can sort through their financial issues and one day open up their commercial side more like some other companies have. No idea why they'd discontinue the USC. I think they still sell it in Europe. Demand in the US may not have justified importing it anymore. |
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