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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:48:34 PM EDT
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Wasnt the rumor that ATI stopped importing them because the Turks started getting greedy?
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:06:03 AM EDT
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That was the rumor, should not be too long before we see what the MSRP on the new ones will be.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:39:25 PM EDT
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Bump...Again.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 8:49:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:51:14 AM EDT
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I am really looking forward to these rifles!
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Posted: 10/9/2014 1:04:24 PM EDT
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I just received an email from Mike at Zenith/Quest:
Andy, I had just gotten back from Turkey when I received this email from you and Andy Eckert just reminded me or your inquiry. I apologize for not responding sooner. I tested the guns the week of September 15th in Turkey and they are awesome. We are coordinating the importation between the ATF and the Turkish government as I write this. I am disappointed that we did not have them in July as I initially anticipated. I did not fully understand the amount of planning, adjusting and bureaucracy involved. For that, I apologize. I cannot guarantee a hard date yet but we are hoping for December 1st at this time. Thanks for keeping up with us Andy! Mike Mike Farruggio Firearms Program Manager Zenith Firearms Office 434-202-7790 Mobile 434-566-1412 He also sent me this little sneak peak, it may be imported in pistol form due to barrel length: 
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Posted: 10/9/2014 7:18:56 PM EDT
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I would really like an HK53, the mp5-sized 5.56 rifle. That's about the perfect size for me.
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Posted: 10/9/2014 7:49:02 PM EDT
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I think the 33K is perfect. Awesome photo!
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Posted: 10/9/2014 8:06:43 PM EDT
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I think the 33K is perfect. Awesome photo! Agreed, hard to do better than that! |
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Posted: 10/9/2014 8:27:00 PM EDT
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Beautiful gun !!!!!!!
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Posted: 10/9/2014 9:20:31 PM EDT
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LOL POF actually released their K version (reverse stretch to be more precise) and full-size guns are available to purchase as well. Had quite a few MKE pistols & rifles and they all worked flawlessly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I'll be on Social Security by the time these hit the market... LOL POF actually released their K version (reverse stretch to be more precise) and full-size guns are available to purchase as well. Had quite a few MKE pistols & rifles and they all worked flawlessly. They released a small amount of MP5 variants with many having varying issues, and no info has come forth regarding if another import will happen. I think the hope from a lot of people is that POF will have a continual import, and that additional dealers will pop up who will NOT charge the same over charges that seem to be common in the HK world. There is a lock on HK parts pricing, and if that dam broke, the HK community would grow much larger much quicker. |
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Posted: 10/10/2014 10:26:05 PM EDT
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I just received an email from Mike at Zenith/Quest: Andy, I had just gotten back from Turkey when I received this email from you and Andy Eckert just reminded me or your inquiry. I apologize for not responding sooner. I tested the guns the week of September 15th in Turkey and they are awesome. We are coordinating the importation between the ATF and the Turkish government as I write this. I am disappointed that we did not have them in July as I initially anticipated. I did not fully understand the amount of planning, adjusting and bureaucracy involved. For that, I apologize. I cannot guarantee a hard date yet but we are hoping for December 1st at this time. Thanks for keeping up with us Andy! Mike Mike Farruggio He also sent me this little sneak peak, it may be imported in pistol form due to barrel length: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u266/poorman_photo/MKEHK33_zps24f03170.jpg 
the way this email is written, it looks like they haven't gotten permission to import yet and nothing has even left Turkey. this thread is essentially 7 pages of bullshit hype. I bet you won't see these for at least another year. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 1:35:10 AM EDT
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the way this email is written, it looks like they haven't gotten permission to import yet and nothing has even left Turkey. this thread is essentially 7 pages of bullshit hype. I bet you won't see these for at least another year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just received an email from Mike at Zenith/Quest: Andy, I had just gotten back from Turkey when I received this email from you and Andy Eckert just reminded me or your inquiry. I apologize for not responding sooner. I tested the guns the week of September 15th in Turkey and they are awesome. We are coordinating the importation between the ATF and the Turkish government as I write this. I am disappointed that we did not have them in July as I initially anticipated. I did not fully understand the amount of planning, adjusting and bureaucracy involved. For that, I apologize. I cannot guarantee a hard date yet but we are hoping for December 1st at this time. Thanks for keeping up with us Andy! Mike Mike Farruggio He also sent me this little sneak peak, it may be imported in pistol form due to barrel length: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u266/poorman_photo/MKEHK33_zps24f03170.jpg
the way this email is written, it looks like they haven't gotten permission to import yet and nothing has even left Turkey. this thread is essentially 7 pages of bullshit hype. I bet you won't see these for at least another year. Rumor has it that the HK33 version has already been cleared for importation by the ATF, they are now close to getting the nod on the MP5 pistols and the G3 version. |
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Posted: 10/11/2014 1:55:28 PM EDT
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Agreed, hard to do better than that! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the 33K is perfect. Awesome photo! Agreed, hard to do better than that! + 1 more 
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Posted: 10/25/2014 11:47:45 AM EDT
[#15]
Bump
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Posted: 10/31/2014 10:37:32 AM EDT
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I just received an email from Mike at Zenith/Quest: Andy, I had just gotten back from Turkey when I received this email from you and Andy Eckert just reminded me or your inquiry. I apologize for not responding sooner. I tested the guns the week of September 15th in Turkey and they are awesome. We are coordinating the importation between the ATF and the Turkish government as I write this. I am disappointed that we did not have them in July as I initially anticipated. I did not fully understand the amount of planning, adjusting and bureaucracy involved. For that, I apologize. I cannot guarantee a hard date yet but we are hoping for December 1st at this time. Thanks for keeping up with us Andy! Mike Mike Farruggio Firearms Program Manager Zenith Firearms Office 434-202-7790 Mobile 434-566-1412 He also sent me this little sneak peak, it may be imported in pistol form due to barrel length: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u266/poorman_photo/MKEHK33_zps24f03170.jpg Nice. I'd be interested in one of those to SBR along with a MP5. |
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:04:42 PM EDT
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update?
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Posted: 12/11/2014 1:34:16 AM EDT
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Bump?
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:40:03 PM EDT
[#19]
Dec 1st release? Yeah right.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:41:13 PM EDT
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Dec 1st release? Yeah right. Shit happens. You should know the drill by now. |
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Posted: 12/28/2014 9:52:54 AM EDT
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Desperately, yet patiently, awaiting the arrival of some HK33 mags....
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Posted: 12/28/2014 10:03:04 AM EDT
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Folks , anytime you are working with imports & the US Govt you are going to experience unexpected delays. We have seen imported Guns or Parts kits take 3 -6 months longer than anticipated . The crew @ Zenith is working hard to bring these in as quickly as possible and have patience .If we get more firm info on the progress we will be glad to post here.
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Posted: 4/8/2015 1:20:11 PM EDT
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Any news Atlantic?
I understand the hoops that must be jumped through to get such a deal done, but it has been a while! Ruck |
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Posted: 4/9/2015 7:05:29 AM EDT
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We will check on this and let you know something in 24 -48 hours
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Posted: 4/11/2015 2:41:05 PM EDT
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/foghorn/coming-soon-from-zenith-firearms-z5-licensed-mp5-pistol-series/
"The first wave of imports is coming in next month, and while the guns are going to be about $100 to $200 above what’s coming in from POF they say that the quality will be evident." |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 4:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/foghorn/coming-soon-from-zenith-firearms-z5-licensed-mp5-pistol-series/ "The first wave of imports is coming in next month, and while the guns are going to be about $100 to $200 above what’s coming in from POF they say that the quality will be evident." So to get a retractable stock on the MP5 version only involves removing the end cap? Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. Really nice looking guns at the link MAC.....thanks. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 4:39:33 PM EDT
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Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 10:39:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. Outside of the tax stamp, is there anything more to adding a collapsable stock to these MKE guns to the reverse strech then taking off the end cap and adding the stock? |
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Posted: 4/11/2015 10:44:28 PM EDT
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Get stamp, get receiver engraved. Take off pistol end cap and put on whatever stock variation you want.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 2:22:40 AM EDT
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Outside of the tax stamp, is there anything more to adding a collapsable stock to these MKE guns to the reverse strech then taking off the end cap and adding the stock? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. Outside of the tax stamp, is there anything more to adding a collapsable stock to these MKE guns to the reverse strech then taking off the end cap and adding the stock? Nope, then it ends up looking something like this. Granted, this is a Dakota Tactical and not a MKE, but it shows what a reverse stretch MP5 looks like once SBR'd and a stock is added. 
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Posted: 4/12/2015 3:22:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, then it ends up looking something like this. Granted, this is a Dakota Tactical and not a MKE, but it shows what a reverse stretch MP5 looks like once SBR'd and a stock is added. https://40.media.tumblr.com/ffb01127de4a7e9326736e111087544a/tumblr_nmokasUZZI1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. Outside of the tax stamp, is there anything more to adding a collapsable stock to these MKE guns to the reverse strech then taking off the end cap and adding the stock? Nope, then it ends up looking something like this. Granted, this is a Dakota Tactical and not a MKE, but it shows what a reverse stretch MP5 looks like once SBR'd and a stock is added. https://40.media.tumblr.com/ffb01127de4a7e9326736e111087544a/tumblr_nmokasUZZI1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg I have to real use for that gun other than an overwhelming desire to own it. That's likely going to happen if these MKE guns are as nice as they look in the link above. POF is built on German tooling as well I believe. Any desirability differences between MKE & POF? And what are those differences? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 12:40:01 PM EDT
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I have to real use for that gun other than an overwhelming desire to own it. That's likely going to happen if these MKE guns are as nice as they look in the link above. POF is built on German tooling as well I believe. Any desirability differences between MKE & POF? And what are those differences? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. Outside of the tax stamp, is there anything more to adding a collapsable stock to these MKE guns to the reverse strech then taking off the end cap and adding the stock? Nope, then it ends up looking something like this. Granted, this is a Dakota Tactical and not a MKE, but it shows what a reverse stretch MP5 looks like once SBR'd and a stock is added. https://40.media.tumblr.com/ffb01127de4a7e9326736e111087544a/tumblr_nmokasUZZI1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg I have to real use for that gun other than an overwhelming desire to own it. That's likely going to happen if these MKE guns are as nice as they look in the link above. POF is built on German tooling as well I believe. Any desirability differences between MKE & POF? And what are those differences? The finish is a little nicer on the MKE guns IMO. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 12:49:52 PM EDT
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Saw a few at the NRA convention. Fit and finish looked just as good, if not better than the old gen MKE I had for a while.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 8:51:34 PM EDT
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I have to real use for that gun other than an overwhelming desire to own it. That's likely going to happen if these MKE guns are as nice as they look in the link above. POF is built on German tooling as well I believe. Any desirability differences between MKE & POF? And what are those differences? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure I get the "streched" thing, I'll have to look in to it I think. The MP5k has a shorter receiver, both in front and back. The 'reverse stretch' is an MP5 with a (squished) K-sized front end and a (stretched) standard MP5 rear end. True K receivers take special end plates and stocks that do not work on standard MP5 rear ends, so the reverse stretch was made so you can have a shorter front while still using standard MP5 stocks. Outside of the tax stamp, is there anything more to adding a collapsable stock to these MKE guns to the reverse strech then taking off the end cap and adding the stock? Nope, then it ends up looking something like this. Granted, this is a Dakota Tactical and not a MKE, but it shows what a reverse stretch MP5 looks like once SBR'd and a stock is added. https://40.media.tumblr.com/ffb01127de4a7e9326736e111087544a/tumblr_nmokasUZZI1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg I have to real use for that gun other than an overwhelming desire to own it. That's likely going to happen if these MKE guns are as nice as they look in the link above. POF is built on German tooling as well I believe. Any desirability differences between MKE & POF? And what are those differences? They aren't going to look as nice, but I'm sure that it will pass the 15' rule. |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 7:21:01 PM EDT
[#35]
Really looking forward to the reviews on these. Kinda hoping they make a RS in the K style gun. Not sure why they have RS that is normal on their website???
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Posted: 4/13/2015 7:52:36 PM EDT
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Really looking forward to the reviews on these. Kinda hoping they make a RS in the K style gun. Not sure why they have RS that is normal on their website??? I have no idea why they're calling a full size pistol a reverse stretch unless it's some sort of mistranslation? |
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Posted: 4/13/2015 8:50:03 PM EDT
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I have no idea why they're calling a full size pistol a reverse stretch unless it's some sort of mistranslation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really looking forward to the reviews on these. Kinda hoping they make a RS in the K style gun. Not sure why they have RS that is normal on their website??? I have no idea why they're calling a full size pistol a reverse stretch unless it's some sort of mistranslation? I sorta scares me that they as the company do not know what a reverse stretch is. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up as a misspell.. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 1:33:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Bump for any updates.
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Posted: 4/19/2015 5:15:49 PM EDT
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I sorta scares me that they as the company do not know what a reverse stretch is. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up as a misspell.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really looking forward to the reviews on these. Kinda hoping they make a RS in the K style gun. Not sure why they have RS that is normal on their website??? I have no idea why they're calling a full size pistol a reverse stretch unless it's some sort of mistranslation? I sorta scares me that they as the company do not know what a reverse stretch is. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up as a misspell.. No, not a mis-spell, or mis-speak. They say they're changing the naming conventions for MP5s. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 6:10:06 PM EDT
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No, not a mis-spell, or mis-speak. They say they're changing the naming conventions for MP5s. That seems pointless. There's a very specific reason a weapon with a K front end and a full size back end is called a reverse stretch. |
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Posted: 4/19/2015 6:14:05 PM EDT
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I spoke to them at SHOT, and they know what they're doing. The odd naming has nothing to do with their understanding of HK roller locks and everything to do with US import laws. Remember, MKE was imported before by another company so some models would have to meet the old import standard (no third pin and magwell block and special 10 round mags) rather than the way they are doing it now. If the model name changes, it is a new gun. If it is the old model name, it is an old gun with certain requirements already set for import. It is not Zenith Quest being weird, it is our silly import laws.
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Posted: 4/20/2015 10:11:46 AM EDT
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That seems pointless. There's a very specific reason a weapon with a K front end and a full size back end is called a reverse stretch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, not a mis-spell, or mis-speak. They say they're changing the naming conventions for MP5s. That seems pointless. There's a very specific reason a weapon with a K front end and a full size back end is called a reverse stretch. This. I could care less if they know what they are doing, Its confusing for the rest of us. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:45:48 PM EDT
[#43]
hmmm this firearm looks promising
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Posted: 5/5/2015 2:03:24 PM EDT
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Any updates on when these weapons will be available?
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Posted: 5/5/2015 6:48:01 PM EDT
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Any updates on when these weapons will be available? Thanks Wondering this as well. Someone asked on their Facebook page a few Friday's ago and the response was "next Friday" which no matter how you take it would have been a few days or more ago at the worst. No other updates I've seen. |
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Posted: 5/6/2015 1:23:57 PM EDT
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With any import like this you can expect delays , the US Govt does not make the process move quickly . We recently had a shipment tied up in US customs several before it was released , I am sure Zenith is having the same import fun .Patience Young Grasshopper & you will be rewarded with a beautiful MKE Pistol .
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Posted: 5/10/2015 2:30:44 PM EDT
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Unless things change my shipment is suppose to be here in the next 2 weeks.
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Posted: 5/11/2015 8:46:07 PM EDT
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This was posted on HkPro board today by someone with the screen name of "Nocebo" who I believe is affiliated with Zenith Firearms:
Good morning! Zenith's firearms were packaged today in Kirikkale, they are shipping tomorrow to Istanbul, then they are flying to Dulles Wednesday and arriving at Dulles Wednesday. Thursday or Friday they should get cleared by Customs (per our broker) and arrive in Zenith's shop Friday or Saturday. Zenith is working all weekend to receive them and then start shipping Monday or Tuesday, shipping in order of payment received. So, you should see these arriving next week, if all goes according to this plan. Sounds good! |
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Posted: 5/12/2015 8:42:59 AM EDT
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Unless things change my shipment is suppose to be here in the next 2 weeks. Are you a zenith dealer, or did you order from a dealer? |
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Posted: 5/12/2015 10:13:59 PM EDT
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Unless things change my shipment is suppose to be here in the next 2 weeks. Are you a zenith dealer, or did you order from a dealer? +1 |
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