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Posted: 1/24/2017 8:41:38 PM EDT
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I had Arizona Response Systems do some tune-up work on a DSA FAL a few years back. Good service/price and turn around time. YMMV
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Posted: 1/25/2017 12:37:32 AM EDT
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I had Arizona Response Systems do some tune-up work on a DSA FAL a few years back. Good service/price and turn around time. YMMV www.arizonaresponsesystems.com These guys or Gunplumber on the FalFiles. |
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Posted: 1/25/2017 12:44:39 AM EDT
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These guys or Gunplumber on the FalFiles. Those guys ARE Gunplumber. |
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Posted: 1/25/2017 2:49:36 AM EDT
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Randy/Sledgehammer in Texas
Mark\Gunplunger in Arizona Either one of these top FAL smith's can fix you up. Do not under any circumstances take any FAL to a local gunsmith. None have the specialized knowledge, gauges and parts to work on FAL's. |
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Posted: 1/25/2017 1:48:27 PM EDT
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Mark/Gunplumber.
He built an L1A1 for me and it was a work of art !! |
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Posted: 1/25/2017 8:33:11 PM EDT
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I just sent my FAL barrel and receiver to be headspaced and fitted to Rich Banks of Frontline Armory in Pennsylvania. He got my parts on Friday, had it built up on Saturday and in the mail on Tuesday. It was only $55 to properly fit and time the barrel and headspace with the proper locking shoulder. I cannot say any better about his service. A very friendly and easy guy to work with. Mark (Gunplumber) at Arizona Response Systems quoted me $350 to do the same service.
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Posted: 1/27/2017 12:26:06 PM EDT
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Buy a receiver wrench and knock it out yourself.
They really are not that hard to build or rebuild, assuming your receiver isn't the problem. |
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Posted: 1/27/2017 4:14:24 PM EDT
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Buy a receiver wrench and knock it out yourself. They really are not that hard to build or rebuild, assuming your receiver isn't the problem. I was going to do this but by the time you buy the wrenches, pin gauges and headspace gauges, you're usually down about $200 at least. Then you need a strong vise and some way to index it so the sights aren't canted |
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Posted: 1/27/2017 6:17:13 PM EDT
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I was going to do this but by the time you buy the wrenches, pin gauges and headspace gauges, you're usually down about $200 at least. Then you need a strong vise and some way to index it so the sights aren't canted Im not saying youre wrong, but how close are you going to be to $200 by the time you ship a gun, have it fixed by a gunsmith, and ship it back? A receiver wrench is 70 bucks. Go and no go gauges are another $60 or so for a set. If you buy the tools then you can fix it yourself, and have the ability and knowledge to do it again if necessary. Im not knocking anyone who sends their stuff out to get worked on, as I understand. But a FAL isn't a hard gun to work on either. |
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Posted: 1/27/2017 8:45:47 PM EDT
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If the barrel undertimes or overtimes by hand, or there is some other major issues, you absolutely want a FAL expert to work on your rifle. I learned this the hard way. My barrel could not simply torque on, and the gunsmith I took it to fucked up the barrel. I'm sending it to Terry Bridwell in Oregon, but if the barrel is fixable (it may or may not be), it will likely cost close to what replacing the barrel would cost at minimum. If everything seems to go together fine by hand and is otherwise in good working order, then yeah, I'd say do the work yourself or with loaned tools if you can. It's more satisfying and cheaper that way.
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Posted: 1/27/2017 11:17:51 PM EDT
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Im not saying youre wrong, but how close are you going to be to $200 by the time you ship a gun, have it fixed by a gunsmith, and ship it back? A receiver wrench is 70 bucks. Go and no go gauges are another $60 or so for a set. If you buy the tools then you can fix it yourself, and have the ability and knowledge to do it again if necessary. Im not knocking anyone who sends their stuff out to get worked on, as I understand. But a FAL isn't a hard gun to work on either. I paid $55 for the service and about $50 for shipping there and back so $105 total. I'm all for building stuff myself and have done many ar's, ak's and a 1911 among many other smaller projects. For me it wasn't cost effective to buy the Fal tooling for one or even two rifles. Maybe if you could borrow a lot of the tools it would be better or if you plan on building 3+ rifles |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 1:30:03 PM EDT
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For me it wasn't cost effective to buy the Fal tooling for one or even two rifles. Maybe if you could borrow a lot of the tools it would be better or if you plan on building 3+ rifles |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 1:35:31 PM EDT
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Those guys ARE Gunplumber. |
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Posted: 1/30/2017 1:34:31 AM EDT
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Buy the tools. Do the work. Sell tools for 1/3 of purchase price. That's another thing to consider. I'm not saying not to do it yourself but for the price I found it more economical to send it out. I would suggest to the OP to join falfiles or weaponsguild and ask to borrow at least the headspace gauges and pin gauges if he decides to go that way. Those are more common than the FAL specific tools to borrow. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 4:44:58 PM EDT
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The bolt sticking problem sounds like a problem with the receiver.
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Posted: 2/27/2017 4:49:48 PM EDT
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If the barrel undertimes or overtimes by hand, or there is some other major issues, you absolutely want a FAL expert to work on your rifle. I learned this the hard way. My barrel could not simply torque on, and the gunsmith I took it to fucked up the barrel. I'm sending it to Terry Bridwell in Oregon, but if the barrel is fixable (it may or may not be), it will likely cost close to what replacing the barrel would cost at minimum. If everything seems to go together fine by hand and is otherwise in good working order, then yeah, I'd say do the work yourself or with loaned tools if you can. It's more satisfying and cheaper that way. I don't think that's his problem. He has a built rifle and the barrel wasn't properly timed. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 4:58:37 PM EDT
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Randy/Sledgehammer in Texas Mark\Gunplunger in Arizona Either one of these top FAL smith's can fix you up. Do not under any circumstances take any FAL to a local gunsmith. None have the specialized knowledge, gauges and parts to work on FAL's. Randy helped me over a decade ago with 4 or 5 of them. Top notch smith who knows his stuff and a fast turn around time |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 5:25:38 PM EDT
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Randy/Sledgehammer in Texas Mark\Gunplunger in Arizona Either one of these top FAL smith's can fix you up. Do not under any circumstances take any FAL to a local gunsmith. None have the specialized knowledge, gauges and parts to work on FAL's. What? It ain't rocket science. |
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Posted: 2/27/2017 10:54:49 PM EDT
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Court in South Florida is another FAL guru.
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Posted: 2/28/2017 4:23:43 PM EDT
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Randy/Sledgehammer in Texas Mark\Gunplunger in Arizona Either one of these top FAL smith's can fix you up. Do not under any circumstances take any FAL to a local gunsmith. None have the specialized knowledge, gauges and parts to work on FAL's. What? It ain't rocket science. It really isn't. Perhaps when things go sideways, specialized skill can be required, but FAL's are super easy to work on. All my build tools- barrel blocks, receiver wrench, hole gages, headspace gages, cheater bar- cost me less than $250. Well worth it to be able to build and service my own rifles. |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 10:10:32 AM EDT
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Gunplumber stated that he isn't taking any new work until his 2016 backlog is cleared. This statement was made in a very recent post in the marketplace forum on FalFiles. Im no builder. My Argy FAL was an abortion after the "expert" FAL builder tried to put it together and get it right multiple times and another so called "expert" tried to fix it. With his reputation there was no other option except Gunplumber to get it right. He send me some F'd up pictures showing why my Argy receiver and pristine Sarco Argy barrel had to be scrapped. I probably should have scrapped the whole thing as I'll have 3x into it more than what it's worth. The other downside is he's probably had it six months and says I MIGHT get it by mid April. Course about a month+ of that time was me dicking around trying to get another receiver. Couldn't believe what Imbels are now going for and I certainly wasn't going to coin up for another Argy receiver. |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 2:27:34 AM EDT
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If the barrel undertimes or overtimes by hand, or there is some other major issues, you absolutely want a FAL expert to work on your rifle. I learned this the hard way. My barrel could not simply torque on, and the gunsmith I took it to fucked up the barrel. I'm sending it to Terry Bridwell in Oregon, but if the barrel is fixable (it may or may not be), it will likely cost close to what replacing the barrel would cost at minimum. If everything seems to go together fine by hand and is otherwise in good working order, then yeah, I'd say do the work yourself or with loaned tools if you can. It's more satisfying and cheaper that way. Just saw this. Was it a local guy that I was thinking of taking mine to for the same service? If you don't want to say online, just shoot me a pm or text. |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 5:33:08 PM EDT
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Im no builder. My Argy FAL was an abortion after the "expert" FAL builder tried to put it together and get it right multiple times and another so called "expert" tried to fix it. With his reputation there was no other option except Gunplumber to get it right. He send me some F'd up pictures showing why my Argy receiver and pristine Sarco Argy barrel had to be scrapped. I probably should have scrapped the whole thing as I'll have 3x into it more than what it's worth. The other downside is he's probably had it six months and says I MIGHT get it by mid April. Course about a month+ of that time was me dicking around trying to get another receiver. Couldn't believe what Imbels are now going for and I certainly wasn't going to coin up for another Argy receiver. |
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